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dubya will pardon him for Christmas 08
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, former chief of staff to Vice President Cheney, was sentenced Tuesday to 30 months in prison for lying to investigators looking into the leak of a CIA operative's iden y.
He also was fined $250,000. Libby was convicted March 6 of four counts in a five-count indictment alleging perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements to FBI investigators.
He plans to appeal the verdict......
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/...ial/index.html
dubya will pardon him for Christmas 08
^^I hope he does it before then. It is a miscarriage of justice.
That's what happens when you lie to the grand jury, and obstruct justice.
Bush will pardon him and hand him a big sweaty wad of cash.
And if his appeals are rejected? Then what? Nothing but a bunch of "activist judges," I guess. And an activist jury as well, to be sure.
Miscarriage in what way?
He broke the law and was tried and convicted by a jury.
[awaits "Clinton got a blowjob" retort]
He'll be pardoned before the clock runs out on his appeals.
He was convicted of a charge stemming from a no crime committed
investigation.
Clinton, was the President of the United States, and lied to a
Grand Jury, was convicted of such crime and got a slap on the
wrist. But I wasn't going to say anything about Clinton, but
since you brought the subject up.
I wasn't going to say anything about Clinton
Bull .
There you go. That's why he's been sentenced to jail.He was convicted of a charge
I'd be interested in seeing a reputable link do enting that President Clinton was convicted of perjury.
Frankly, I'm not sure that he was ever tried for such a crime.
He was, of course, tried in the Senate for having been fellated under his Oval Office desk, but he wasn't convicted in that setting.
holy lord, the point is not whether a crime was committed and that he lied aboutt it, the pointt is that he lied multiple times to a grand jury about anything. as for the severity of the sentence, the cir stances are mitigatting factors. clinton lied aboutt a blowjob. libby's lie related to the reasoningg behind what has led to thousands of u.s. deaths. big difference.
So when all is said and done, what does Richard Armitage get? The whole purpose of this investigation was to find the person who leaked Plames name, and he has openly admitted to it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091301572.html
I'd be interested in seeing a reputable link do enting that President Clinton was tried in the Senate for having been fellated under his Oval Office desk.
Frankly, I'm not sure that he was ever tried for such a crime.
He was, of course, tried in the Senate for high crimes and/or misdemeanors, after being impeached by the House of Representatives, after he allegedly perjured himself, suborned perjury by others and obstructed justice.
Oh, and as a result of the civil trial -- over which he allegedly perjured himself, suborned perjury by others and obstructed justice -- (once it was revealed he lied, tried to get others to lie, and obstructed the investigation) he was disbarred and paid a hefty settlement for the sexually harassing a former employee.
Holy smokes, you do know how to stretch, don't you?
Who has been charged with what the investigation is all
about, anyhow?
So this means Libby shouldn't be punished?
Hitlary Clinton advisor, James Carville, wrote a letter supportting Scooter Libby...
Scooter Libby Love Letters
Washington elite pe ion judge on behalf of convicted Cheney aide
The Smoking GunJUNE 5-- Donald Rumsfeld, Henry Kissinger, Paul Wolfowitz, and John Bolton top the list of individuals who wrote a federal judge on behalf of former White House aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who was sentenced today to 30 months in prison for lying to investigators and a federal grand jury examining the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's iden y. On the following 30 pages you'll find an assortment of letters from former colleagues and friends of Libby, Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff. The letters, which do not include a missive from Cheney himself, were filed this morning in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C.. Included in the correspondence is a letter on former Cheney aide Mary Matalin's stationery which is signed by her and husband James Carville, the Democratic strategist. Others writing on Libby's behalf included Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Richard Perle, former Pentagon adviser.
Just in case you have any doubts who is really financing the Hitlary campaign.
I have doubts who is really financing Clinton's campaign.
It's amazing how the absolutism of the law-and-order Republicans (perjury MUST be punished!) of 10 years ago dissapated like a fart in the wind when one of their own get's caught in the same snare.
The results of civil trials are substantially different than a criminal conviction. The burdens of proof are radically different and the consquences stemming from each proceeding aren't comparable.
xray suggested that President Clinton had been convicted -- I don't know that he was ever convicted of anything, which makes him necessarily different than Libby. Comparing the two situations is ridiculously inapt.
I was more interested in pointing out the irony of your post, in which you pretend to hold xray to some high standard of defining and sourcing his claim of a conviction while, in the very next breath, throwing out some garbage about Clinton being tried for getting a blowjob.
And, regardless of a spineless Senate's inability to the right thing, do you really believe Clinton innocent of perjury, suborning perjury, and obstruction of justice?
Finally, there is no comparison between the Clinton's impeachment and Libby's criminal trial. They're two separate methods of adjudication. One is political while the other is judicial.
Have a nice day.
So Libby shouldn't be punished?
I'd like to believe that, but all I say was political revenge in the Libby case.
1) Case was to find the leak.
2) Leak was found to be Richard Armitage early on, yet investigations continued.
3) Libby was indicted and convicted for what could really be misspoken words and a poor recollection.
I believe they didn't stop because Armitage was a critic of president Bush's invasion. They wanted to find someone close to president Bush or vice president Cheney as a political attack, not justice.
Pretty bad to resort to convicting an innocent man of an ordeal over his word taken as lies. What is this countries justice coming to? Pretty bad when the liberals use the justice system as a political weapon.
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 06-06-2007 at 06:15 PM. Reason: fixed link
He just misspoke!
Nice to hear from the "law and order" crowd again.
I've read some of the court transcripts and downloaded some of the evidence. Have you?
He just misspoke!
Nice to hear from the "law and order" crowd again.
Consider this when asking about Plame.
Did he know, or was he asked the identify of:
Valerie Plame
Valerie Wilson
her code name
Mr.s Wilson, etc.
Originally, not knowing that Plame and Wilson are the same person, it makes things difficult to resolve and answer truthfully AND accurately what you did and did not know.
Yes.I've read some of the court transcripts and downloaded some of the evidence. Have you?
And the jury saw and heard all of it.
If you don't want the laws of the land to apply to Scooter, just say so.
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