Never seems to. In truth though, this team should be largely kept together. I'd be more or less fine with replacing Beno and putting a long SF in Ely's place, but I'm certainly open to other suggestions.I just hope that the elation over this le doesn't lead to a sense of complacency or some romanticized view of the current club.
I would agree.
You make a couple of tweaks here and there but don't do anything stupid.
Its odd....a lot of people here were sure the Spurs were not going to win it again after the last off-season coupled with the fact of no major trade deadline deals.
Guess R.C. and Pop know what they are doing.
I saw a lotta dunks and alley oops. Ok. But, I'm more interested in things like ball handling ability, court awareness, outside shot capability, passing, basketball IQ, etc...
The only thing that really caught my attention, was his defensive ability/blocked shots. That looked nice. Still, he seemed to rely mostly on athleticism rather than skill. Seen that type of guy come and go too many times to get too excited about it, especially when matched up against some of the NBA monsters. We had a lot better dunkers in the olympics that didn't bring back the gold.
Defense looks good tho.
A project?
Good question. Based upon Pops comments below in a Saturday article from the Express-News, both he and R.C. do acknowledge the fact that must begin to integrate a couple of younger, more athletic guys into the mix. It sounds as though they are in somewhat of a quandary as to when would be the best time to do so.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...n.35d986a.html
The Spurs were criticized early in the season for not doing enough to make their roster younger. While Popovich dismissed the criticism, he said Saturday team officials also can't ignore the franchise's future.
"If we kept this same team, at some point, it will be too old and unathletic," Popovich said. "It's difficult to find out exactly when is that point. If you don't do some things in a proactive manner, then all of a sudden, you're too darn old, and you waited too long."
IMO, while we should expect the core of the roster to remain intact, Finley and Bonner seem to be offseason wild cards. Personally, I'd love to see the Spurs look at two specific potential FAs - Gerald Wallace (SF-Charlotte) and Mikki Moore (C-New Jersey).
Javtokas and Scola could have been gotten for the same money spent on Elson and Butler and DEFINITELY would have done more for the team. In the excitement of the win, people seem to forget that most of last season moves were a bust. Where are all those who said how great Williams and Ely would be? Or how Butler was the new great Spurs center? Even Bonner spent all of March, April, May and June on the bench. Spurs won with the guys left from the previous year.
Why do you think Javtokas could have done anything? What did he average in Europe this year, one point and one board?
By the way, the moves weren't a bust. They got rid of Rasho's contract - so if Bonner/Williams/Ely were popcorn vendors, they didn't really care.
Butler is a good young prospect.
As for Elson - he was cheap and cheap is what they were looking for. They all served the Spurs purpose.
I think elson is a wise investment. Guy has the skillz, we just need to bump his IQ
He would have done more than Butler did.
They served no BASKETBALL purpose and that is what matters to me.
The point is that the Spurs player acquisitions did not contribute to the championship. They did not do a good job of finding players who could actually play for the team and contribute. Scola was the same cost as Elson. I STILL would have gladly had Scola.
I find it odd that somehow Elson is considered cheap but Scola asking the same amount is asking for way too much.
That really doesn't advance your point very much.
How do you know?
I don't recall that many people touting Williams and or Ely. It was pretty much acknowledged that the Williams trade was a dump of Rasho's awful salary, subtracting two years of payments. The Ely trade also fractionally lowered the cap figure so that the savings was probably over a mil when you figure that everything above the tax threshold is doubled. A lot of peeps here don't understand the realities of running a small market teams, and may have thought the Spurs wanted these players, but most of the long term posters knew the score: addition by subtraction.
As for White and Butler, how can you say they didn't work out, yet refuse to acknowledge that Beno, who had WAY more PT to prove his mettle, is an utter failure? WTF?
Yes, it does.
Robertas>Butler
and
Scola>Elson
therefore
Robertas + Scola>>Butler + Elson
That ignores the financial commitment involved...
Firstly...If you look at Butler's numbers vs. those of Javtokas this season they are basically a wash. As for Scola and Elson, my understanding was that Scola's people were asking for deal that started at just under the full MLE. Therefore, comparing Elson and Scola is disingenuous.
Butler must be put in the rotation this next season. He did good in the time he had this season, except for his very first game I think against Miami. I have no doubt in my mind if he's given the time Oberto got this season, he can be definitely better than him.
Nice opinion, but there really isn't a factual basis behind it. Scola can't block shots OR rebound worth a in Europe.
Beno was not acquired last summer. I mentioned those players chosen last summer and who they were brought in instead of. I still think the Spurs made poor choices and a championship does not change that because those guys brought in had nothing to do with winning it.
As for Butler, the Spurs are as happy to get rid of him as they are Beno.
Javtokas is NO WAY better than Jackie.
Javtokas<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Butler.
Your understanding is wrong. Sorry.
Bring Scola and the SPurs will be fine
and give James White some PT
That's a good point...I don't think the coaching staff saw Butler as someone who would give us any significant time this season. If you look at Butler's age + upside vs. that of Javtokas I think Butler was the right choice between the two.
Then why are the Spurs trying to trade his lazy ass?
If you're certain please link me to something that says that. At best, I think it's unknown where the negotiations left off. If you are personally aware of something that happened in the negotiations between the Spurs and Scola I'd be interested to hear what it is.
Are you certain the Spurs are actively shopping him? Is it possible that other teams are inquiring about him and that's why his name pops up from time to time? You seem to speculate quite a bit about things that very few people know the whole story about.
Give me the source that says he is on the trading block.
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