ESPN: KG wants Phoenix

[Findog]

KG and Amare would be the ideal pairing. I'd be willing to give up quite a lot to see that happen.

Any combination of Marion, Diaw, Banks, KT, this year's draft picks (24 and 29), next year's first-round Atlanta pick (unprotected). Nash, KG, and Amare would be really, really scary.

Marion, Barbosa and Kurt Thomas are worth getting KG. That's a borderline All-Star, a star in the making, and a serviceable big for KG. KG/Amare > Duncan/Oberto. Suns would then need to go get an outside shooter to replace what they get from Marion and Barbosa in their offense. That's what the MLE is for...added to that if they keep their picks after picking up KG, they can get something for the bench to lengthen the rotation. Interior defense and lack of bench depth, the two biggest weaknesses for the Suns would be solved.

[Extra Stout]

I don't understand why people excuse Amare's behavior by saying "he is young." LeBron James is 22, and he doesn't act like a child. Tony Parker is 25, and he doesn't act like a child. Carmelo Anthony doesn't act like a child.

If the Suns want to foreclose on the remaining two years of Nash's prime in order to place their hopes on a developmentally-retarted Amare Stoudemire going forward, more power to them. Suns fans can relish in their woulda-shoulda-coulda 2007 championship, because they won't get a real one as it stands now.

The more I think about it, getting KG is a no-brainer. No, Sun fan, Amare is not a better offensive player than KG any more than Karl Malone was a better offensive player than Tim Duncan is. Add that to the defense, team mentality, and heart...

The Curse dictates that the Suns must pass on this opportunity.

[Thunder Dan]

I'm not into the whole KG thing that much but would a Sheed/KG deal ever go down for Detroit? It seems like both teams want those guys out

[LavaLamp]

The guy works out probably harder than anyone on the Suns and his desire to win cannot be questioned. He had a very timultous upbringing going to school after school and taking care of his family while his mother was out doing who knows what. He is taking summer courses at ASU. The guy came back stronger than almost everyone thought after the microfracture, but I guess that was a result of his ty at ude.

Building on what kps0001 said, by all accounts, Amare is a mature, serious, goal-oriented individual. He is not perfect of course, and because of youth, his emotions get the better of him at times. However, he displays the kind of at ude about life, business and basketball that you would see from an underprivileged boy who wants to be a lawyer, doctor or tycoon.

[ArgSpursFan]

lmmfao@monosylab1k's hate for amare. its pretty amusing the level of amare hatred on this board. like it or not, dudes a beast. if i'm phx, its hard to give up a young stud big for an aging KG 'specially if you gotta give up even more pieces than amare alone. KG has always been vastly overrated.

I agree.Amare is a beast,just needs to grow up a bit.
I ´d love to see him in a spurs uniform.
I really see Amare being greater tham KG in a near future.
If S.Kerr gets rid of him,the suns will kill all the chances the have to win a tle for the next 10 yrs. or so.
Amare should be the Duncan piece for the suns in order to bild a team around him.

[Xylus]

Marion, Barbosa and Kurt Thomas are worth getting KG. That's a borderline All-Star, a star in the making, and a serviceable big for KG. KG/Amare > Duncan/Oberto. Suns would then need to go get an outside shooter to replace what they get from Marion and Barbosa in their offense. That's what the MLE is for...added to that if they keep their picks after picking up KG, they can get something for the bench to lengthen the rotation. Interior defense and lack of bench depth, the two biggest weaknesses for the Suns would be solved.

I believe the Wolves would need to throw in an extra piece to make that deal work (something to do with the way the salaries match up). We'd be giving up nearly $30 mil. in salary and the Wolves would only be giving up about $21 mil.

I'd prefer to keep Kurt Thomas if it meant giving up Barbosa, and offering draft picks instead.

[monosylab1k]

However, he displays the kind of at ude about life, business and basketball that you would see from an underprivileged boy who wants to be a lawyer, doctor or tycoon.

Yeah, especially the part where the underprivileged boy who wants to be a doctor/lawyer gets "Black Jesus" tatooed on his neck.

[ArgSpursFan]

Yeah, especially the part where the underprivileged boy who wants to be a doctor/lawyer gets "Black Jesus" tatooed on his neck.

what´s the black Jesus tatto has to do with BB anyways??

[PM5K]

At the end of the day, I'd loathe to trade a young Amare for an ageing Garnett, but at this point I think it's obvious the Suns won't get past the Spurs with their current lineup, so I think some changes should be made, and I wouldn't be too excited to face Garnett and the Suns in the Playoffs, depending on who else besides Amare they have to give up to get him...

[Xylus]

I don't see how anyone could say that Amare Stoudemire is "developmentally-re ed" when he's one of the best players in the league. When he entered the league, he wasn't a great rebounder, didn't have a jumpshot, wasn't a great FT shooter. He's improved in all those areas, while becoming more dominant inside the paint.

Kwame Brown...now he's developmentally-re ed.

[Findog]

I believe the Wolves would need to throw in an extra piece to make that deal work (something to do with the way the salaries match up). We'd be giving up nearly $30 mil. in salary and the Wolves would only be giving up about $21 mil.

I'd prefer to keep Kurt Thomas if it meant giving up Barbosa, and offering draft picks instead.

Ricky Davis. That would make Phoenix in' sick. Nash, KG, Amare, Bell, Davis, Thomas, Diaw, a first-rounder, James Jones. Somewhere in there Phoenix will have to pick up a veteran backup for Nash, but that shouldn't be too hard.

[atxrocker]

Yeah, especially the part where the underprivileged boy who wants to be a doctor/lawyer gets "Black Jesus" tatooed on his neck.

what in the does that have to do with ANYTHING in this thread? your hate for the kid makes your arguments very flawed and irrelevant.

[Cleveland Steamer]

Amare should be the Duncan piece for the suns in order to bild a team around him.

Guy has two all stars and the 6th man of the year on his team, how much more of a team do they need to put around him?

[Johnny RIngo]

I agree.Amare is a beast,just needs to grow up a bit.
I ´d love to see him in a spurs uniform.
I really see Amare being greater tham KG in a near future.
If S.Kerr gets rid of him,the suns will kill all the chances the have to win a tle for the next 10 yrs. or so.
Amare should be the Duncan piece for the suns in order to bild a team around him.

Amare is a rich man's Dwight Howard with bad knees. No way you can compare that chump to what Duncan or KG does.

Diaw and Marion thrived last year without Amare. Insert KG in there and you get a MUCH better team. D'Antoni will find a way to screw it up though.

[Extra Stout]

Ricky Davis. That would make Phoenix in' sick.

As in terminally?

[Cleveland Steamer]

Amare is a rich man's Dwight Howard with bad knees. No way you can compare that chump to what Duncan or KG does.

Diaw and Marion thrived last year without Amare. Insert KG in there and you get a MUCH better team. D'Antoni will find a way to screw it up though.

I would trade Amare for Dwight in a second

[Findog]

As in terminally?

Ricky Davis has mellowed some. He'd be instant offense on their second unit.

[atxrocker]

I'm thinking that Amare said something very offensive about Leonardo DiCaprio to monosylab1k in order to piss him off so bad. That is the only reason I can think of for him to have such a vendetta against Amare.

[Cry Havoc]

I feel, at this point in the thread, the people speaking of Amare like he's a dominant post force should consider that I am not 6' tall and I could probably average 18-20+ PPG at the Power Forward position with Nash as my Point Guard.

As a side bonus, I'd probably play better defense than Amare. Trade him while you can.

And YES, his IQ DOES matter. How can you say it doesn't? Bball IQ is irreplaceable. Amare has zilch. He doesn't know when to turn it on, and he basically lives to blow teams out in the regular season. No self-control, no willingness to play hard defense for a full 48... exactly what does this guy do besides dunk the ball and grab a few rebounds (which will decline drastically as his knees go) that makes you all worship him as one of the best bigs in the league?

The Spurs just showcased why you can't have players who don't play D. So did the Warriors in their rout of the Mavs. It just doesn't work. Boozer was a dominant force in the playoffs until the Spurs put pressure on him -- then he was nowhere to be seen.

Amare needs to completely change his game to even be considered a great post player.

[ArgSpursFan]

Guy has two all stars and the 6th man of the year on his team, how much more of a team do they need to put around him?

No disrespect but this is the WC,not the East,they need more tham that to beat the Spurs or Mavs.

[monosylab1k]

what in the does that have to do with ANYTHING in this thread? your hate for the kid makes your arguments very flawed and irrelevant.

oh, and someone comparing him to an underprivileged kid trying to make it in life as a doctor is somehow relevant?

[monosylab1k]

I'm thinking that Amare said something very offensive about Leonardo DiCaprio to monosylab1k in order to piss him off so bad. That is the only reason I can think of for him to have such a vendetta against Amare.

Hey when does your next prison term start?

[Xylus]

oh, and someone comparing him to an underprivileged kid trying to make it in life as a doctor is somehow relevant?

Yes, it has to do with his drive to succeed.

[Cleveland Steamer]

No disrespect but this is the WC,not the East,they need more tham that to beat the Spurs or Mavs.

Need more than that? If a team needs more than that to get to the Finals they wont ever get there. The mavs dont even have the kind of fire power the Suns do

[atxrocker]

I feel, at this point in the thread, the people speaking of Amare like he's a dominant post force should consider that I am not 6' tall and I could probably average 18-20+ PPG at the Power Forward position with Nash as my Point Guard.

As a side bonus, I'd probably play better defense than Amare. Trade him while you can.

if you could be a better NBA player than Amare then I suggest you get a good agent, and fast. which team should I expect to see you playing with? I CALL ING BULL . Go yourself with that bull .