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whottt can't argue with the real timvp so he's trying to win arguments against the timvp in his brain. The funny part is that timvp is even owning him
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Now you are already right because the Spurs' big splash turned out to be giving two players to the Rockets for nothing?
Oh man this is good.
whottt can't argue with the real timvp so he's trying to win arguments against the timvp in his brain. The funny part is that timvp is even owning him
The part where having a multi year multi million dollar contract over the minimum gives them more money under the cap...
If you are advocating the 2008 Master Plan in a positive light...link?
I know...two assets would could have gotten Kobe forTrading away two assets and cutting another while signing a bargain bin SF = nothing.
Why would I want that horrible trade on my resume?
And you can't even talk about Butler anymore. He went from "verifiable steal" to "mentally handicap fat ass who can't talk" after the trade.
Well yeah...if he hadn't suck so bad in so many facets in Summer League...I wouldn't feel that way. Dude looked no better than the day we signed him...
I never said the dude didn't have talent...he just hasn't improved and he's got a lot of liabilities as well.
much money being the key phrase...Actually not. They'd be charged for an empty roster spot anyways so they wouldn't save much money by not signing a cheap bargain bin player like Udoka.
But yeah, I know. You're not a "cap guy"
Would you rather we over-pay?
Giving away three assets and signing a player who fit the 2008 plan is not an upgrade, Sonic.
He didn't do a damn think Malik couldn't have done...Horry OTOH....and that was our toughest playoff run in a le year...You also said Nazr hurt their chances at a championship.
Prove he helped us.
You cried when they waived Heal.
And I was proven wrong when?
I must have missed the parade...and Anthony Carter doing anything...we lost because of our shooting, he provided it....with more clutchness than Hedo did.
I didn't throw any under the buss...You threw half the team under the bus in this thread.
I was right about Oberto opting out.
Bruce has opted out before.
Finley would have opted out if we didn't win a le.
Don't try to play the homer card now. You've ed as much as anyone.
LMAO...so which is it? Do I jock the FO blindly or do I play the homer card?
Rasho wasn't why we lost in 04...Pop didn't play him any other time.Well, you've always been wrong about Rasho. I guess it's too late to change now.
LMAO...If they aren't infallible that means they can make mistakes and that means that someone can point out their mistakes. Thanks for seeing the light
You haven't proven they've made any yet.
You basically claimed Holt prevented them from doing so...I claimed they'd make their move this offseason and upgrade...Yeah, because timvp doesn't want the Spurs to get better. WTF are you smoking?
You're the one on both sides of the fence...
Coyote>Drob
He said he leaning towards retirement at that time, stretch.
That's so typical.
5 seconds later:
*waits for this session of filibustering to end*
That was hilarious.
you started it
This is what happens when you bump threads prematurely....
whotttt has officially stopped making sense. This is around the time he just tries to filibuster his way out of ownage.
This is a new low for whottt in this thread. It's such a twist of a take that I'm speechless.
How the is it a twist of take...
The funny thing is that no matter how you look at it you are undermining your own previous takes...
I mean I like Matt Barnes too...if we can get him here, but not for the damn MLE...
You just want to see the MLE thrown at someone every offseason...I still have yet to see a valid criticism you are making of this FO, other than they aren't spending enough money to suit you...which in this offseason would mean overvaluing players.
LMAO the funny thing is...if the Spurs do come out of this offseason unimproved...it won't be because of any provable 2008 Master Plan...it will be because all the top SF's were overvalued...and we couldn't get as much for Scola and Butler as you wished...
whottt would be a much more entertaining ownage victim if he ever admitted to being wrong. In his three plus years of posting, I've never once see him claim to have been wrong and another poster right. And he isn't going to start with this thread.
Okay, whottt, you are right. If the Spurs sign the player timvp wanted all along, timvp will be owned. If they don't, you'll still be right because as you said, the trade with the Rockets already sufficed the "big splash" acquisition. You correctly predicted that the Spurs wouldn't bring back the exact same team. That was an amazing limb you went out on. I mean, seriously, who thought the Spurs were going to make a move at all this summer? Everyone was convinced they'd become the first team in NBA history to bring back the same 15 guys from one year to the next.
You proved them all wrong, whottt. You are the man
Seriously. You called this all the way back in March. The Spurs were going to make a big acquisition this summer. No one saw that 2009 second round draft pick for Scola and Butler coming. Except for you!
Props. Job well done.
You pwned them all!
Hey, no worries bro. You already pwned them all! No need to backtrack even further. Obviously timvp didn't mean that by taking away three assets and adding one asset that equaled no improvement. That stupid timvp tried to pull a fast one and you got him!
You are so right it's amazing. I still can't get over how you correctly predicted that the Spurs wouldn't bring back the same 15 players. That goes down as one of the best predictions in recorded history.
As a totally independent and neutral observer
I think I can speak for everyone here (or not) when I say:
Ownage is not pretty.
Just to hammer this home...first all all Jackie Bulter would not have done crap this season had he stayed on the team.
#2. Scola wasn't as valued as you think he was!...no crime there, he wasn't as valued as I thought he would be either...and I don't even like him.
#3. You yourself advocate losing Scola for nothing over giving him to the Rockets. Don't try and claim it's all about assets with you.
#4. A player Pop will play at a need position is an upgrade over keeping a guy that won't play for us, doesn't have as much trade value as we hoped, and #3 likely would have stayed in Europe...and Jackie Butler, who didn't even get off the bench this season, and didn't look improved.
There's just no consistency with your statements here...I'm sorry, you can't say you were for signing a player and then claim it's not an upgrade.
It's not a huge upgrade?
Well my friend...you have to prove the Spurs had the chance to lock down a huge upgrade and passed on it for $$$ reasons(without overpaying for it) if you want to claim board rigth now as you are attempting.
FA were overvalued this offseason, particularly SF'...failure to over-pay or not being able to trade Scola for a lottery pick doesn't prove they were biding their time until 2008. They'd have been all over Nocioini...if the price wasn't ridiculous.
whottt would be a much more entertaining ownage victim if he ever admitted to being wrong. In his three plus years of posting, I've never once see him claim to have been wrong and another poster right. And he isn't going to start with this thread.
Okay, whottt, you are right. If the Spurs sign the player timvp wanted all along, timvp will be owned. If they don't, you'll still be right because as you said, the trade with the Rockets already sufficed the "big splash" acquisition. You correctly predicted that the Spurs wouldn't bring back the exact same team. That was an amazing limb you went out on. I mean, seriously, who thought the Spurs were going to make a move at all this summer? Everyone was convinced they'd become the first team in NBA history to bring back the same 15 guys from one year to the next.
You proved them all wrong, whottt. You are the man
Seriously. You called this all the way back in March. The Spurs were going to make a big acquisition this summer. No one saw that 2009 second round draft pick for Scola and Butler coming. Except for you!
Props. Job well done.
You pwned them all!
I said the Spurs would make their move this offseason...Scola was their biggest trade asset(unfortunately not as valuable as anyone hoped)...the fact that he is moved pretty much proves it was this offseason.....
That's the point.
Who did they miss out on for the MLE that wouldn't have been a stupid deal?
:yawn
How have I gotten owned yet?
The offseason isn't over, the Spurs have 3 open slots, and they have some big contracts to trade off...as well as other assets.
How is that owning?
Explain that to me...
So dumping ballast for a second round pick two years from now is a big move?
Be sure to stay keep a watch on your blood pressure, because I'd hate to see you keel over with a heart attack from the shock if we make a move with even more impact on this year's team, like, say, signing Watson to a 10-day contract.
Not in and of itself...it's an indication they were prepared and willing to make one though.
Be sure to stay keep a watch on your blood pressure, because I'd hate to see you keel over with a heart attack from the shock if we make a move with even more impact on this year's team, like, say, signing Watson to a 10-day contract.
Yawn...I already said if the Spurs don't do anything else that upgrades the team I am willing to concede I was wrong...although no one is ever going to be able to provide proof the Spurs could have gotten Nocioni and turned it down for lux tax reasons.
Lots of cynicism and ownerbashing typical of so many franchises...I've yet to see anyone provide conclusive proof that throwing the MLE at someone every offseason improves the team....and that's what exactly what timvp and Marcus Bryant are pissed about...that we aren't blindly throwing the MLE at any player we can get.
Show me that works...........
Again, no worries. You are already right. You said the Spurs would do something this summer and they have. A 2009 second round pick from the Rockets is nothing to sneeze at.
You are right. Everyone else in this thread is wrong. I don't know how you continue to never be wrong in your forum history. Keep it up
Link to where we turned down Nocioni?
You are right. Everyone else in this thread is wrong. I don't know how you continue to never be wrong in your forum history. Keep it up
Um...I am not the one that bumped this thread before the offseason is even over in a lame attempt to claim board....you are. BFD.,..you didn't think Scola would be moved...and you weren't bringing up Udoka when this thread was originally made either.
You are claiming I have already lost...when there are still open roster slots on the team.
Exactly how have I gotten owned?
Because Finley didn't opt out? Horry didn't retire? That's about the only thing I was wrong about so far.
Salary dumping is an indication that they were going to make a big splash acquisition. No doubt, bro. You are so right. F the haters who don't realize how valuable that 2009 second round pick will be.
I mean seriously, you called it. Big splash acquisition from the Rockets. Who woulda thunk it?
Don't worry that the Spurs would have saved lux tax dollars with a trade of Barry and Butler for Nocioni. Everyone knows you aren't a "cap guy". It's all gravy
No need to provide any links. We all trust you when you say timvp wants the Spurs to spend the MLE every year.
Of course timvp claimed that the Spurs turned down Nocioni. Even if he didn't post that, that doesn't mean you should stop claiming he did.
That secret Barry opt out was damn sweet. Nice call
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