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Patrick Ewing might have something to say about that.
Patrick Ewing might have something to say about that.
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Last edited by Freeze; 08-14-2007 at 01:08 PM.
Unfortunately we'll never know, because Beno is going to be a fat turd that waits to collect his pension and whine about how unfair the rest of the world is for not recognizing his immense basketball skillz.you are partly correct, he sucks because he doesn't prepare, but moreso he sucks because he does not have the balls, winning mentality or talent that Parker or Manu have
Let me put it this way, if Beno worked his ass off 24/7 and lived inthe gym, yes he would be better, he would probably be a solid backup pg. But that's about it. you are dreaming and on crack if you think he has as much talent as Manu or Parker
As a contrarian at heart, I tried really hard to think of something positive to say about .
I'm completely at a loss here folks.
At least he's still confident in his abilities.
Drop me a PM if you ever need any other assistance of a similar nature.
There's a few very good posts here.
Regarding the discrimination of foreign basketball players. There have been cases in the past (probably still is a few problems in some teams) that have been well publicized in Europe (I kinda remember even Drazen Petrovic having some problems of the kind). But I haven't seen any serious/trustworthy reports recently. Especially not with the Spurs. And even less with Popovich - who if anything is getting criticized for using too many foreigners. (I agree completely with the poster that said he's the same asshole to everybody - it's a beautiful talent)
It's not so much a case of discrimination as it is stereotyping...
Example:
Euro players are whining mentally soft wussies that can't play D and have no heart.
White American players are unathletic stiffs that can't do anything but shoot.
Black American players are selfish unskilled ballhogs who put themselves over the team and can't do anything but dunk.
LOL.
Discrimination could be possible of course due to stereotypinc except for one thing...
American Team owners will do everything short of whoring their grandma out if it will give their team a compe ive edge in winning a le...especially if they can do it at a cheap price.
Like for example in Baseball Jackie Robinson...
His breaking the color barrier out of a pure sense of altruism was at best 50% of it...
The other 50% was the fact that a powerful owner wanted talent to give his team the winning edge and Robinson(and other Afrircan American players) had it...
You can always count on us Americans to let our greed and hunger lead us to do the right thing.
It's color blind, it's nationality blind...
The sterotype does exist, there is probably a little truth to it, and to the others as well, based on the players currently in the NBA...but it becomes both discrimination and stupidity when the the stereotype is believed moreso than in the ability of the individual....anyone who makes that judgement is just begging to be proved wrong...
My impression is that Beno is just trying to ride that bus and it's a cheap and easy way to convince people who have no knowledge about the NBA of how difficult his life is (I mean he has to have two welcome parties - how inhuman is that!).
My impressin is that Beno is spoiled, used to getting his way primarily, and unwilling to accept responsibility...
And he's also not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
The Pop Defense/mental toughness argument is a very good one. As demonstrated over the past few seasons anybody with some intelligence and a healthy bank balance can build a very good team (cough*Dallas*cough) but a championship winning team requires toughness, discipline and a desire to succeed alongside talent. You either agree with Pop's method or you don't but there is no denying that without the mental toughness that he creates we wouldn't be looking at a repeat attempt for the 5th time.
And finally I can't believe he somehow thinks in today's telecommunication bonanza that his comments about Slovenia in the US press won't get back to us and of course vice versa.
I don't really think Beno cares much...he knows he got a pension for the rest of his life...we are talking zero compe ive fire here.
I won't fault Beno for going into the tank and not being all consumed with winning...
As a human there is nothing wrong with what he wants IMO...as a basketball player...he's a complete loser.
I wish him the best in doing whatever he wants to do with the rest of life...
I just don't want him doing it on my team....that money and roster spot is better used elsewhere.
damn straight we are.The season ticket holders are more deserving of his two rings than he is
where are my GD rings.
I think the whole thing with Manu was a joke...just basic trash talking and rubbing it in...like the Spurs players tend to do to each other in a good natured way.
I don't doubt that Manu thinks he is capable of beating anyone and knows he pretty much did so in the Olympics...but I also don't doubt that there is no way he would be as disrespectful to his teamates as he sounds in that example Beno gave...my guess is that it's something totally out of context and just another example that Beno doesn't really "get it".
The funniest thing is that timvp and Kori were two of his biggest jockers on the board as a rookie.....
Sorry Beno...most Spurs fans wanted you to suceed and thought you were going too, you were the homer pick..you made this bed for yourself. Just admit you don't really care that much, take your pension and go be a SuperStar in the Euroleagues....although you are probably going to struggle to even make an impact there with that at ude...it's not about your talent....here, and I doubt it will be there either.
Did you miss where Beno has repeatedly blamed his lack of confidence for his poor play?At least he's still confident in his abilities.
Everyone liked Beno in the beginning of his rookie season, including you. He was playing very well ... until his clubbing caught up to him and he got out of shape by the middle of his rookie season.
Here's whottt's first ever take on Beno:
I still stand by the potential that he had as a rookie. He could have easily developed into one of the best backup point guards in the league. If he had any fire or any semblance of compe iveness, he'd be pretty damn good. But he doesn't.
And all along, I've been hard on Beno for being a wuss. I copyrighted Paino© before his rookie season even started.
The reason why Beno is so frustrating is because he could be so good if he cared about the game at all.
That this is true is best proven during one on one training sessions where Manu always picks me as his opponent.
, if I could smoke the fat lazy guy in practice on a day to day basis I would relish the chance as well. I'm surprised the other guys don't make Manu draw straws to see who gets to smoke Beno in one on one during practice.
Damn, Slomo nailed it before preseason of Beno's rookie season. Comparisons people use now, Slomo used three years ago.
Too bad I can't find the original post by Slomo but I remember it and he pretty much had Beno pinned perfectly from the moment the Spurs drafted him.
Props.
Even the Spurs had concerns about Beno's passion for the game and his dedication before they ever drafted him. They trusted their Euro sources who said he was just one of those guys who holds it inside-- maybe those were the same sources who said to draft Sergei! I know that Pop specifically spoke to Tony about Beno, asking for his perspective.
It might have been calculated by the coaching staff in the hopes that Manu's at ude might rub off on him.
The talent evaluators were spot on. The kid just has no heart, no passion, no will to improve and is dumb as a brick.
Perhaps the Spurs should have given him a Wonderlic test.
Man, do you get angry after reading such garbage.
1.Question are more opinionated then the answers. It's like Beno payed the interview or worst was manipulated into it. The boy cannot be that stupid by himself.
2.The Dallas thing and that thing with Vaugn was the breaking point. That is a fact and is good to be pointed out by the player himself. He told to the whole world he was soft and not the guy the coach was looking for in a 2string PG.
3. Lies and statistics. How bad can it be to lie about stats. As if the stats aren't lies to begin with?
4. He has the right to be bitter and ambitious. Spurs gave rings, but weren't good for his career. We all know that, I hope. I just hope he knows at least, that he has to work for Spurs, and not for the extra training while riding the bench.
5. Man, does that guy know how to party... I really hope he gets serious at least sometimes, otherwise he better head for Euroleague, where he would at least be earning his paycheck.
Beno Udrih is the Vspan of the Spurs. LOL
They both sat on the end of their respective benches getting splinters in their butts. Now they are both going to go back to Europe and complain about the NBA.
i like Beno.
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