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    Bull

    Keep things in context. Felons aren't offered a choice, this is about CHOICE.

    If you want to debate that there's no evidence that she wanted to die, that's one thing. But don't turn this into some kind of rant on twisted ideals while ignoring that the arguement you are making ignores the choice factor.
    Relax. There is no evidence period! Nevertheless, you still get the same group that morally opposed to the death penalty gun ho about taking Schiavo's life. That's a fact.

    Your choice factor doesn't include the innocent people who can't make their own choices.

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    You mean, felons don't have the choice NOT to kill someone?

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    The GOP shows their inconsistancy and hypocrisy again. Aren't they supposed to be for smaller government and state's rights? I guess thats just unless it runs counter to their agenda.

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    The GOP shows their inconsistancy and hypocrisy again. Aren't they supposed to be for smaller government and state's rights? I guess thats just unless it runs counter to their agenda.
    They are, above all, politicians. Politicians, no matter what their party, want power.

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    Whose choice? The parents choose to keep her alive, the husband chooses to kill her and Terri can't make known her choice. Whose choice supercedes?

    And while you're talking about choice - the felon on death row chose to kill someone - that's where choice comes in!

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    Fine, if you guys want to go with your stretched logic, then the crowd that supports keeping her alive then supports killing people.

    Wonderful.

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    If that was her wish, and then why didn't she have a Living Will in place? Maybe it was never really discussed seriously, just like it's not discussed seriously in about 99.9% of households.
    Especially, when you're in your 20s. , my husband and I don't have a will. It's somthing that's been on our to do list forever.

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    Fine, if you guys want to go with your stretched logic, then the crowd that supports keeping her alive then supports killing people.

    Wonderful.
    Killing murderes and Child Molestors, yes.

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    Fine, if you guys want to go with your stretched logic, then the crowd that supports keeping her alive then supports killing people.

    Wonderful.
    Could you elaborate a bit, please?

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    The GOP shows their inconsistancy and hypocrisy again. Aren't they supposed to be for smaller government and state's rights? I guess thats just unless it runs counter to their agenda.
    government by the people and for the people, not by the courts.

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    The Judicial system is as much a part of government as any other branch.

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    government by the people and for the people, not by the courts.
    Why should the representatives from 49 other states have ANY say in a Florida matter?

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    Why should the representatives from 49 other states have ANY say in a Florida matter?
    Uh, I believe that's how the federal government works Ex. I don't really believe this case warrants their involvement.

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    I don't really believe this case warrants their involvement.
    Thank you. That's my point.

    Federal involvement should only be in cases where national interests are at stake, or local government lacks scope to decide the issue.

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    I would be for saving her life if she had one now or a reasonable chance of having one.

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    They are, above all, politicians. Politicians, no matter what their party, want power.



    Yay, let's politicize some more!

    /Not making this a Rep. v. Dem post, just the grandstanding by all of them about this.

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    The President weighs in...(off the Terri Web site)

    STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT
    The case of Terri Schiavo raises complex issues. Yet in instances like this one, where there are serious questions and substantial doubts, our society, our laws, and our courts should have a presumption in favor of life. Those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern. It should be our goal as a nation to build a culture of life, where all Americans are valued, welcomed, and protected and that culture of life must extend to individuals with disabilities.

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    oh man, I'm going to go lay down because that statement makes me want to puke.

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    Pretty damned wishy-washy.

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    Why doesn't congress spend time to defend the feeding tubes of an aborted fetus. Just wondering o.l..

    Most doctors called it a simple procedure. No pain or anything. Just doesn't seem right .

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    From Peggy Noonan column today
    But in the end, it comes down to this: Why kill her? What is gained? What is good about it? Ronald Reagan used to say, in the early days of the abortion debate, when people would argue that the fetus may not really be a person, he'd say, "Well, if you come across a paper bag in the gutter and it seems something's in it and you don't know if it's alive, you don't kick it, do you?" No, you don't.
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/column.../?id=110006442

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    Sorry, but somebody running the MSNBC site needs to keep a little more watchful eye about the ads and their rotation in certain stories.


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    To: National Desk

    Contact: Dan Allen and Shannon Flaherty, 202-225-4000, both of the Office of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay

    WASHINGTON, March 18 /U.S. Newswire/ -- House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) today condemned the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube and pledged to continue working for a legal or legislative means to save her life.

    "Right now, murder is being committed against a defenseless American citizen in Florida," DeLay said. "Terri Schiavo's feeding tube should be immediately replaced, and Congress will continue working to explore ways to save her.

    "Mrs. Schiavo's life is not slipping away - it is being violently wrenched from her body in an act of medical terrorism," DeLay said. "Mr. Schiavo's attorney's characterization of the premeditated starvation and dehydration of a helpless woman as 'her dying process' is as disturbing as it is unacceptable. What is happening to her is not compassion - it is homicide. She doesn't need to die, and as long as Terri Schiavo can breathe and her supporters can pray, we will not rest."

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    Yes, because anything can now be labled an enemy in the war on terror. Jesus.

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