It's also clear that the Spurs' talent evaluators picked perhaps the worst player in the second round. That doesn't make me more confident that they will be right about Scola sucking.
True. But that doesn't mean it was the right move.
We'll see but everything I've seen of Scola tells me at worst he's a solid backup.
Well, there you go.
None of our fantasy moves ever have anything to do with real money, or real communication with other GMs or agents.True. But that doesn't mean it was the right move.
We'll see but everything I've seen of Scola tells me at worst he's a solid backup.
You're still assuming someone would take Beno for a first. They haven't been shy in the past about dumping picks to dump players. Maybe the market wasn't there.
if beno is so good why is he still a spur
he is a cheap point guard
Well said.
a first round draft pick I bet would buy beno!
Sounds like ChumpDumper and picnroll want actual proof from another team's general manager. Even though my "fantasy trade" has the Spurs asking for half of the going rate for a first rounder. But yeah, I guess it's preposterous without an actual taped conversation in which an NBA general manager admits that they would have taken such a deal where they give up less than half what other teams routinely give up.
Sounds like I lost.
You just make all the assumptions that all armchair GMs do, including myself. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make it so.
But even though there is no evidence that anyone wants Beno or that the Spurs want to give up another future 1st rounder, it sounds like I lost.
Rumors were Spurs were trying to trade Beno to Cleveland for their second, no? A second that was not far off where next years Spurs one is likely to be, no? And in a draft this year that was considered extremely deep compared to next years draft which is not that highly regarded, no? Or was that another "fantasy trade".
I mean we can argue whether the Spurs should have wanted Scola on the team, but once they decided they didn't, what should they have done? Try to call his bluff and run the risk of losing any trade value at all for him?
Or make the best deal possible in the short window of time when Scola was a free agent, getting rid of a current player that was useless to your system and making some room under the luxury tax threshold to get a player that seemed like a much better fit and set you up for further moves in the coming months?
I'm just glad that deductive reasoning isn't looked at so harshly in every situation in life.
*timvp, chumpdump, picnroll in a car*
timvp: Why did you run that red light?
CD: Who says it was ever going to turn green?
timvp: Uh, because it always turns green.
CD: Link?
timvp: How am I supposed to link to that?
pnr: ChumpDumper is right. How are we going to assume the light was going to turn green?
timvp: Even if it never turned green, at least you wouldn't be getting a ticket.
pcr: How do you know he's getting a ticket? Maybe he'll just get a warning.
CD: Link to me not getting pulled over if I didn't run that red light?
timvp: You don't get pulled over for sitting at a red light.
CD: How do you know that? You are just being an armchair policeman.
It still looks ty because the Spurs got 2 cents on the dollar for what they could have gotten. Whether it's a good trade or not has nothing to do with how Scola actually pans out, it has to do with his projected worth at this point.
Portland trades Greg Oden to the Spurs for Beno Udrich. Oden sucks and is out of the league after a year. Does that mean that Portland made a good trade?
Why do you assume Portland could have gotten more for Oden? Link to the general manager taped convo admitting he would give up more?
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I guess Beno got traded to Cleveland and I missed the news.
Somebody want to get me up to speed on wtf you are talking about here?
Link to the Spurs offering a first rounder and Beno for nothing like I suggested?
Ahem. Don't forget his ability to clean the basketball with a Phoenix Sun (Amare block) + the Prince injury (dirty)Tiago will fit in with the Spurs. Excellent D and
He'll fit right in!
What could the Spurs have gotten for Scola? I truly didn't hear of any offers for him. And of course, it's fine to ignore roster and tax situations when you're using Monopoly money, but that has its own price in the NBA.
I can certainly understand if the Spurs don't want to give up another future first rounder.
And I don't know where Oden comes into the equation for Beno, but that trade is certainly possible in fantasy land too. If you need that to be stipulated as theoretically possible as any other trade, you got it.
Scola should be a Spur
I know we'll regret giving him up for nothing... i can't see this guy being less than a good player on the NBA, wich is a lot more that what i can say about Bonner, Beno,...
A first round pick is actually a useful commodity and still would have kept Peter and his legion of bean-counters happy.
Or Scola gets to sit in Europe, which is still better than what the Spurs did.
The Oden example was meant only to illustrate in the most obvious way that saying "if Scola doesn't turn out to be a valuable player, then this will have been a good trade" is an absolute logical fallacy. What Scola does next year has no bearing on the fact that it was a horrible trade now.
But you already knew that.
Who was offering a first round pick for Scola?
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