Hopefully this will be the end of Chuck Lidell.
yeah why? hes a good guy and a great fighter
Very disappointed in CB....very.....
An Effin' RNC on Shogun?????
I almost want to ask for a partial refund..........
wow. chuck gets beat on decision.
forrest is the man.
who fights silva? who fights rampage?
Damn what the happend to Chuck??
I'll admit that I thought Keith was going to lose.
So... how about that Forrest Griffin, eh?
MMA is just crazy right now. Its been so stable for so long and now everyone is cross training disciplines the playing field is level. It will settle down in a year or so.
This sport is so new, it is just part of the growing pain. Over all the best will still win over time.
UFC 76: Judges Decision
Lol where were all the knock outs?!? Great fights regardless, i think it was well worth the money.
Yeah no matter what, great fights.
LHW just got really mixed. Jardine and Griffin rematch? Griffin and Rampage?
Wanderlei looked pretty disappointed when Chuck lost, but will they still fight? Chuck looked more like he was throwing the fight then anything. I guess he just didn't want it. I mean a minute left in the fight and you know you're losing, yet you stand and wait to counter. WTF? Either KTFO out of Jardine or get KO'd. It was disappointing to see Chuck lose again, but I guess he can go back to the Vernon White's of MMA.
Tyson Griffin looked great with escape after escape. Wonder who he's up against next? I'd LOVE to see him fight Florian.
Fitch looks like he has been underrated for awhile. I wonder who will he take on next? I'd actually like to see him and Karo go at it, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him with the next le contention.
Sherdoggers are going crazy about Rua and the excuses are running rampant. GREAT performance by Griffin.
Anybody know any sites with the fight videos?
You know, without having to pay for them?
nvm...found em
Pride isnt doing well in the UFC. At all.
High levels of cross training is what is causing this chaos. It will settle down.
This has only been going on for less than a year but we just have to deal with this weirdness for a little longer.
Chute Boxe gassing. I have read some crazy things about CB the past year. That place is as crazy as MFS. Dysfunctional and disorganized from top to bottom. Trainers leaving and opening their own academy's. Fights about money. Real Fighter did an awesome write up on this. I had no idea. They are years away from what they were. Hoodathunkit.
Oh and DarkReign....naughty naughty. lol
Holy . thats all i have to say in this thread.
Soku???? come on now.
I am done, this is ridiculous. Rua losing on a choke and then Liddell. What is wrong with the UFC??
Not sure why everyone is freaking out. This is a very recent thing. Its part of a new sport that is adjusting.
Again...its because everyone is cross training disciplines..It will settle down.
And I would ask what is wrong with Rua, not th UFC.
How is that elbow doing?
Sucks when you cant heal-stomp downed opponents.
I think Evan is right on. The days of fighters who train part-time because of day jobs and fighters who focus on one style are over. There is more parity and higher overall quality of fighters than ever before.
Don't throw in the towel as a fan because things are shaking up. Enjoy the ride.
Oh, and don't bet the farm on anybody.
I don't know what to think really...I KNOW I've never seen THAT Shogun before. It's beyond me how he could gas so hard when he's used to 10 min 1st rds & 20 min fights. I've never seen him gas anything close to that in any fight. I've been saying for a while that we still haven't seen the pre-dislocated elbow Shogun since he came back from the injury. He's been winning, but not like he was before the Coleman fight...
Cyrille Diabate - was being outstruck before taking him down and beating him up
Kevin Randleman - easy sub win
Nakamura - couldn't finish him, fairly easy decision, Nak struck with him but was taken down at will
Overeem - wasn't looking that great standing, but was at least able to finish him with strikes on the ground (patented Overeem gas'ing)
I thought that MAYBE he was turning the corner after the Overeem fight, but after last night I just don't know. I never would've guessed that he'd be completely spent after 2 min's of the 2nd round...ridiculous.
1. Maybe the "adrenaline dump" that they talk about so much got him? It's not like he came out with his hair on fire though...he was tentative from the start. He seemed pretty calm and relaxed??
2. Wasn't in shape? Seems plausible given the recent changes...ie, not training with Wanderlei, married his Victoria Secret model GF just 2 weeks ago, etc. Maybe he took Forrest a little lightly, but you'd think he would be smarter than that.
3. Wasn't juicing? Always a possibility. Body type is not an indication of whether or not somebody is on something or not (ie, Rafael Palmeiro).
I'd like to think it was #1 and/or #2...if #3, he better figure out a way to get his cardio up without roids. He's got all the skills and he's young. He can be back in le contention within a year if he gets his $hit together. He needs to train with Wanderlei IMO. I think his next fight should be a mid-level guy to get him back on track.
Props to Forrest...he'll always bring cardio, a gameplan, and heart. I was pulling for Shogun but Forrest winning is almost as good. He's one of my favorite fighters...
Chuck is talking about retirement...I hope he doesn't go that route yet. I don't expect that he will. He'll get pissed and decide he doesn't want to go out with 2 straight losses. Lots of big money fights out there for him still...
Mayhem is hilarious...I think he'll go to ProElite after his last WEC fight...he's all over their website doing interviews, etc. I'm sure Zuffa/Dana just LOVES that...
I don't see why they still don't do Wand vs Chuck on Dec 29th. Both would be coming off back to back losses...why not??
If not, Wand vs Forrest? Maybe Forrest wants another shot at CB...winner gets Rampage...
Fitch is a beast...too powerful for Diego, who's thinking about dropping to LW (would be smart).
Tyson Griffin that much closer to a le shot.
Poor Machida...the guy just keeps winning but can't finish a fight, or make a fight exciting.
Anthony Johnson...*shakes head*...
It's clear to me that Pride just wasn't as good as I thought it was. The UFC has proven to be at least its equal. I wouldn't be surprised that the Pride fighters having to take drug tests impacts their performance as well. Personally, I LOVE all these upsets! I pretty much expect Couture to beat Fedor now.
Look man, if I had to remember and list all the upsets this year, it would take several hours
lol @ Mayhem. I had a friend over who's a new, learning mma fan. She spotted him in the background and asked me, "Who is that guy?" The disapproval in her voice was clear. I was stuck. How do you explain someone like Mayhem?
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