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I guess that Stern should have said something like that they were studying if extending the nba in Europe was feasible.
If nba expand the league in Europe, I'm not sure Greece will have a team because it's a small market.
As soon as it was decided, it was announced and reported in the US media.
You are saying it is decided.
Where is the announcement? Where are the reports in the US media?
I guess that Stern should have said something like that they were studying if extending the nba in Europe was feasible.
If nba expand the league in Europe, I'm not sure Greece will have a team because it's a small market.
It's not just Stern. There is an entire expansion committee made up of NBA owners who chat with the media on occasion. Seeing as four NBA teams are in Europe, wouldn't it be a good time to be hyping the expansion of the NBA into Europe if the expansion committee has already given it the green light?
I heard that Tom Cruise will be the owner for the expansion team from Xenu.
Hard say as have about 11 million people, Athens have about 3 million city I think 5 million overall. I think about 19-20 million Greek citizen over sea from as. This small market for NBA?
Greece is a small market when you compare it to Italy, Spain, Germany, Great Britain or France.
I read that the NBA was trying to build on the soccer fans in these countries. That for a team like PAO, they had a loyal following for soccer and if they can convert these soccer fans to NBA basketball, it makes good business sense.
I don't think a nba franchise in Europe should be based on a local team.
If you create a nba team in Athens around Pana, Oly's fans will have a hard time to root for them. You will maybe get some loyal fans but you will too have a smaller market.
San Antonio small market compares Athens right?
LOL @ Kill_Bill
haha that's a good one. San Antonio has got to be one of the smallest markets in the NBA. Right up there with the Indiana Pacers in a city of 1 million people.
Madrid and Athens have many team. You know even though Athens have many team PAO have been gets 15,000 the fan per game and 18,000 the fan pers game in playoff?
We also have been do two games over 20,000 fan at final four. I think there be plenty big market Athens.
Spurs are the only big team in SA. In Athens you have too soccer teams.
America is richer than Greece too.
Just look at where nab teams have had training camp : it's in big and rich countries like Japan, France, Germany... and not in small countries with a huge BB culture like Lithuania, Serbia or Croatia.
If NBA goes in Europe, they will go first where big markets are.
If you really want to talk about small markets, you can look at the Hornets New Orleans Franchise where they only have about 400,000 people and even less since Hurricane Katrina.
Then there's the Milwaukee Bucks. Lets see how many people are in that city? I checked and it's about 600,000 and they have to compete with the Chicago Bulls for fans.
Do you realize than a lot of nba franchise lose money ?
If you don't think that nba franchise will try to go first in biggest European market, you haven't understand the nba.
The nba is a business and you go where you can make the more money. A nba franchise in London or Madrid will make more money than a nba franchise in Athens.
Yes, the other 900,000 who live outside the city limits but in the metro area are not allowed to attend Bucks games.
And the New Orleans team is and always has been subsidized by the state of Louisianna.
Yes unless you can as I said in a previous post, you can build on the fan base. PAO has a huge soccer following and the NBA is betting that more than a few soccer fans will be loyal PAO basketball followers.
If PAO is ready to double its payroll, upgrade their arena, play 82 games a season -- a quarter to a third of them in America --and never play in the Greek League or Euroleague again except for a couple of preseason contests, I'd like to see some quotes from its owner to that effect.
What is the most difficult ? Creating a fan base in England or Spain or turning Greece into a 50 million people country ?
NBA's main market is about 300M people (the USA), they won't go in Europe, with all the difficulties it has, just to have a 311M people market. NBA will go in Europe only if they can raised their market by a significant margin.
Add 5 nba teams (one in France, one in Spain, One in Germany, One in Italy and one in Great Britain) and the nba will have a 600M people market.
Never say never. Remember the ABA
Is funny but most country you name people hate basketballs there. Smart for NBA put team where they not even like basketball?
I have to agree that it probably makes more sense to put a team in Greece than in Great Britain.
First, it's false most of these countries like BB.
Second, you must too considered than the nba isn't just BB. It's too a show with superstars.
In France, NBA games are most watched than Euroleague or French league games.
yes.
In Great Britain every thousand person cares about basketball.
In Greece every second.
I mean... countries like Germany and Great Britain also have a very strong football culture.
To convert it to basketball.... hard if not impossible even in long term.
In Germany basicly noone care about basketball even though the have a MVP etc.
How many Germany fans of the NBA are there? Not so many.... If Greece gets an All star type player in the NBA their people will go crazy with support over him.
Per say... atm im studying in Graz Austria. It is basicly the same as Germany.
Me and my friends go play basketball at pretty much the only decent basketball place in whole damn city. (300-400 thousand inhabitants)
And guess who is playing basketball there? Slovenians, Turks, Greeks, Croatians, Serbs, Africans etc.
I have been there for 10 times and i didnt meet a single Austrian.
If there should be 5 teams in Europe at the start:
-Madrid
-Athens
-Paris
-Rome
-Moscow
without a doubt, forget about Germany and England
Would these cities in Europe support the ticket prices for games even close to what people pay in the low ticket price towns like San Antonio? What's it cost to go toa Euroleague game for decent seats in tne first tier? Would they pay $12,000 a year minus playoffs for an 82 game saeson for a seat?
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