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    Pavlovic probably won't be at camp
    Cavs said to be busy recently in trade talks

    http://www.ohio.com/sports/cavs/1012...l?page=all&c=y


    CLEVELAND: Sasha Pavlovic's future with the Cavaliers is in serious doubt.

    Don't call it a holdout, but when the Cavs open training camp Monday, the signs point to Pavlovic not being there.

    The Cavs, meanwhile, appear to be preparing to move on by making free-agent moves and engaging in their most heated trade talks since July.

    The sides have been far apart on a long-term deal for months. Now it appears the fallback option, a one-year so-called ''qualifying offer'' of $2.8 million, no longer seems to be an option.

    Marc Cornstein, Pavlovic's agent, said Friday that Pavlovic is planning on letting the offer expire Monday. Pavlovic is in Europe with no plans to travel to Cleveland this weekend.

    ''It really isn't a holdout. If he doesn't have a contract, he's not allowed to come to practice,'' Cornstein said. ''Ultimately, it is Sasha's decision, and he is aware of all the cir stances.''

    It is a rare scenario in the NBA for a restricted free agent to not accept any contract before the start of training camp. Usually, taking a qualifying offer is the last-minute resolution. Apparently, not in this case.

    If Pavlovic follows through and lets the offer expire, the Cavs would retain his NBA rights, which can be traded. But he would not be assured of anything but the league's minimum salary if he wants to play this season.

    ''This is not the position we were looking to be in,'' Cornstein said. ''But we have a very different opinion of Sasha's value.''

    The Cavs have made a contract offer to Devin Brown, a veteran guard who plays Pavlovic's positions, and probably will sign Brown this weekend.

    Also, several league sources said Friday that the Cavs have been very active in trade talks the past several days. The two assets being talked about most are David Wesley with his partially guaranteed contract of $1.8 million and a $2.1 million trade exception that expires in two weeks.

    Meanwhile, Cornstein said he's investigating options for Pavlovic to sign a contract with a European team. He referred to two NBA players, Lynn Greer and Sarunas Jasikevicius, leaving the league to sign in Europe this past week as a trend Pavlovic could follow.

    Pavlovic is coming off the best season of his four-year career, averaging 9.2 points. It has been hard to determine his value, however, because no team has extended him an offer sheet and comparable swingmen have signed for as little as $1.1 million and as much as $5.3 million elsewhere this summer.

    ''I am still optimistic that we can find something that works,'' Cornstein said. ''It can still be a win-win situation.''

    Varejao update

    The Cavs and Anderson Varejao's agent, Dan Fegan, met this week, but they are far apart. Several league sources said the difference is in ''the tens of millions'' of dollars. Varejao has the same option as Pavlovic, to sign a one-year qualifying offer. His is worth roughly $1.2 million.

    Camp update

    The Cavs will have several free agents in training camp next week. Expected to contend for a vacant big-man spot are Dwayne Jones, Noel Felix and Darius Rice. Guard Chet Mason, a Cleveland native, also has been invited.

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    Expected to contend for a vacant big-man spot are Dwayne Jones, Noel Felix and Darius Rice.
    That's a really good diverse group to choose from. Jones is a rebounder with size, Noel a versatile semi-tweener defender and Rice is a three point specialist. All are very close to contributing on an NBA level.

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    That's a really good diverse group to choose from. Jones is a rebounder with size, Noel a versatile semi-tweener defender and Rice is a three point specialist. All are very close to contributing on an NBA level.
    Rice suffered a high ankle sprain and might not be able to contribute much in camp.

    But also, the Cavs are rumored to be making a trade tomorrow that is bringing in Cedric Simmons from the Hornets. If that goes down, Noel might opt to leave Cleveland and go to another team's camp. We'll see how it goes.

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    Also, several league sources said Friday that the Cavs have been very active in trade talks the past several days. The two assets being talked about most are David Wesley with his partially guaranteed contract of $1.8 million and a $2.1 million trade exception that expires in two weeks.
    Beno
    Ferry seems to like Beno, Cavs could seek a PG since they work out Keith McLeod and Cavs have what Spurs want with the trade exception or Wesley.

    It could happen... or not.

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    That's a really good diverse group to choose from. Jones is a rebounder with size, Noel a versatile semi-tweener defender and Rice is a three point specialist. All are very close to contributing on an NBA level.
    Good in terms of diverse sets of skills. Bad in terms of none of them are really an NBA caliber player.

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    This has Beno's name all over it. Make it happen Ferry.

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    This has Beno's name all over it. Make it happen Ferry.
    No it hasn't.

    It's just us hoping it has!

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    Cavaliers Sign Devin Brown
    September 29, 2007 - 11:19 am
    Press Release -
    The Cleveland Cavaliers have signed guard Devin Brown to a contract, Cavaliers General Manager Danny Ferry announced today. Per team and league policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.

    “Devin is a versatile basketball player,” said Ferry. “His toughness and ability to play multiple positions on both ends of the court will complement our group well.”

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...n_devin_brown/

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    Yeah he signed that contract a few days ago. Supposedly it's one year for just over a million.

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    Yeah he signed that contract a few days ago. Supposedly it's one year for just over a million.
    [wondering if the Spurs would even want him back next year...]

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    IMO The Devin signing is gonna make Pavlovic feel like they are replacing him and he'll go back to Europe. If Devin gets the time in Cleveland, he's gonna shine.

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    Good in terms of diverse sets of skills. Bad in terms of none of them are really an NBA caliber player.
    They're close. It's a real luxury to have that level of talent/potential to choose from in a training camp. The Spurs likely aren't going to have anything close to this in their camp.

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    So Cavs have traded Wesley for Simmons.
    Good luck to Noel Felix with Cavs or another nba team.

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    So Cavs have traded Wesley for Simmons.
    Good luck to Noel Felix with Cavs or another nba team.
    And they added Devin Brown too.

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    The Simmons trade is great. I don't get why NO would do it. If it was solely a cost cutting move it was a stupid one.

    I wonder if the Pistons could have traded Flip for him. Surely, he's better than David Wesley.

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    There's no way the Hornets gave up Simmons for just Wesley. Makes no sense.

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    Yeah, makes no sense at all. There's gotta be something wrong with Cedric Simmons. How do you give up a young big like that for basically nothing?

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    The only pressure on the Hornets side seems to be money. There was a lot of duplication of skills in the Hornets' frontline players, but it's really early to give up on such a high pick at that age. If the Cavs waved enough cash at Shinn I can see them going for it.

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    IMO If a Simmons trade does go down it will help the Cavs greatly. I have Simmons penciled in as my Most Improved Player this year.

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    He might get the playing time if Varejao doesn't come back.

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    ElliottFan, the Simmons for Wesley trade isn't a rumor but it's a deal done :
    http://www.nba.com/hornets/news/Horn...237879-31.html

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    Dang. That is complete bull . Hornets get mega-raped in this deal.

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    I was told that this was going to happen yesterday - that's why I mentioned it here. But I didn't think that the Hornets would do it just for Wesley. Wesley is only guaranteed like 250K this year. So I'm guessing they'll just cut him. I don't know how close they are to the luxury tax, but that's the only reason that I guess they did it.

    As for the Cavs, they are trying to make a major trade within the next few days. Sasha is sitting in Europe with no other negotiations scheduled with the Cavs and reportedly Anderson/Fegan and the Cavs are like 30M apart in their negotiations.

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    So Cavs have traded Wesley for Simmons.
    Good luck to Noel Felix with Cavs or another nba team.
    He's going to stick it out with the Cavs camp for now since he has already been training with them for almost 4 weeks. Who knows if they'll end up needing him or not, because they are trying to make roster moves. He had an opportunity to go to a couple other team's training camps but he decided to stay there.

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    The Simmons trade is kinda strange.
    Baring there isn't a locker room issue or a problem with Scott, I guess Hornets reasoning was the following :
    Simmons is very raw and won't help us this year or the next year. We will have to spend $6M over 3 years on him to maybe have a productive year from him in two years. Is the reward worth the risk ?

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