Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 82
  1. #26
    Don't stop believin' Dex's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    27,659
    Banana for a Snack Pack.

  2. #27
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    1,971
    Why don't you make a pitch for Jermaine O'Neal. Can ya do it? Get rid of Elson, Oberto and maybe some cash. Would Bird go for that?
    If Bird is holding out for Bynum AND Odom...do you really think he would take Oberto & Elson? The salaries are no where near matching anyways.

  3. #28
    Veteran Indazone's Avatar
    My Team
    Houston Rockets
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Post Count
    9,838
    If Bird is holding out for Bynum AND Odom...do you really think he would take Oberto & Elson? The salaries are no where near matching anyways.
    Bet he'd take Ginobili off your hands.

  4. #29
    Veteran WalterBenitez's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    4,333
    Beno for Lebron.

  5. #30
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    45,483
    There's almost no trade for a big name player that wouldn't involve breaking up the Big Three for required salary. I'm not ready to break up that 3 time championship (2003,2005,2007) core just yet for a player who may or may not fit the system.

  6. #31
    real fans go bald mountainballer's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Post Count
    3,238

    On the face of it "Brand for Beno/Barry/2nd rounder" sounds crazy, but you again have to realize
    A. He's out for most if not all of the season - you're paying him for nothing.
    B. He's not coming back next year, so you can't even hope for an eventual return on that investment.
    C. Even if he manages to come back at the end of the year, he can't really help you into the postseason, but he could screw you out of a high lottery pick.

    Also,

    D. Beno has talent, and there is a possibility he could flourish in your system
    He's still a young guy, and that could help with rebuilding
    E. If he or Barry don't work out, don't keep them.
    F. That extra 2nd rounder will also help the rebuilding"
    beside the fact, that this is a totally unrealistic scenario, it's better to check the basic rules of CBA for trades before making clueless proposals.

  7. #32
    Believe. Whottt.'s Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    322
    I would call up the Clippers and say,

    "Hey, why don't you ask Elton if he's coming back next year. If he's not planning on it, you're spending x million dollars for nothing this year; at best, he may come back when the season is almost over. Then, it will be too late to get a spot in the playoffs, but you might win enough games to screw up your chances in the next lottery. Rather than waste all that money and screw yourself out of a great shot at rebuilding, here's what we'll do. We'll give you the expiring contracts of Beno (a promising guard, just doesn't fit with Pop) and Brent Barry (3 point sharpshooter extraordinaire), and maybe an extra second-rounder next year.

    On the face of it "Brand for Beno/Barry/2nd rounder" sounds crazy, but you again have to realize
    A. He's out for most if not all of the season - you're paying him for nothing.
    B. He's not coming back next year, so you can't even hope for an eventual return on that investment.
    C. Even if he manages to come back at the end of the year, he can't really help you into the postseason, but he could screw you out of a high lottery pick.

    Also,

    D. Beno has talent, and there is a possibility he could flourish in your system
    He's still a young guy, and that could help with rebuilding
    E. If he or Barry don't work out, don't keep them.
    F. That extra 2nd rounder will also help the rebuilding"

    For the Spurs, while the luxury tax hit would hurt, I would tell Holt to swallow it as a short-term loss because the long-term success and value of the franchise would far outweigh it. Additionally, If Brand could get healthy by the postseason, he could be useful this year; presumably, we'd have him studying our rotations all year while he was sidelined. Maybe he likes the atmosphere so much he stays next year.

    Are you the guy with the radio show?

  8. #33
    Believe. thousandth's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Post Count
    242
    If Bird is holding out for Bynum AND Odom...do you really think he would take Oberto & Elson? The salaries are no where near matching anyways.
    However, I don't know who gets welcome Elson with opens arms, we couldn't get anything good for him. Oberto? I glad he's on our teams and not on rival team conference like Lakers, he knows enough defensive on Tim. With Ime and next year Tiago or Mahinmi in the team, I think on Barry/Elson/Beno leaving the Spurs.

  9. #34
    Believe. DR WU's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    73
    Beno, Barry and next years 1st round pick in exchange for Kevin Durant

  10. #35
    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Post Count
    11,756
    Bonner for Scola
    Last edited by smeagol; 10-11-2007 at 09:14 AM.

  11. #36
    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Post Count
    11,756
    Elson for Rasho

  12. #37
    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Post Count
    11,756
    Sequ for taruky

  13. #38
    Baltimore Spurs Fan florige's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Post Count
    10,065
    I would have jumped for Parker for Kidd two years ago. But not now. I don't know, maybe Barry and Beno for Caron Butler.

  14. #39
    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Post Count
    8,869
    manu for kobe

  15. #40
    No darkness Cry Havoc's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Post Count
    33,683
    Beno + Barry or Finley + draft pick for Danny Granger.

  16. #41
    Nostradamas Jr.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Post Count
    33,691
    Beno & Barry for Delonte West


    riiiight


    Heck, I would trade Beno and Barry for Ben and Jerry's right now.

    Last edited by Jimcs50; 10-11-2007 at 02:31 PM.

  17. #42
    Veteran Thompson's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Post Count
    2,481
    beside the fact, that this is a totally unrealistic scenario, it's better to check the basic rules of CBA for trades before making clueless proposals.
    Logically, it doesn't seem that bad to me; the Clippers are paying a large salary so Elton can sit on their bench until next year, when he leaves. They are effectively losing Elton whether they trade him or not; the only difference is whether they can get someone else to pay a salary which can't help them, and maybe even pick up a few useful items (Beno/Barry/2008 second rounder).

    Step back for a minute, forget it's Brand, and ask "What will the player's contribution be equivalent to this year, the final year of his contract (assuming he opts out and leaves)?" The answer is, almost nothing, certainly nothing to help them into the playoffs, but it might actually hurt them where the lottery is concerned, and the salary (which they get no beneficial return on) also hurts them.

    As for checking the CBA for rules on trade proposals, get a life. Maybe my proposal is clueless when it comes to the rules, but I'm not going to read through a book of rules, down to appendix B, subsection C for a recreational (fun) fan post. If the idea's stupid, ignore it. I am certainly no expert on such rules, and I don't really care to be, unless you can tell me in a couple sentences exactly what rules my screwball proposal violates. If the answer is, "You'll have to read this 20 page pamphlet," that's more than I care to do; this is apparently more recreational for me than it is for you (please tell me you're not from the Spurs front office, trolling this site for suggestions). I would also wager that I enjoy my time here more than you do, because I can imagine a (fantasy) scenario without having to correct myself (Oh, but that ridiculous scenario is completely implausible given that paragraph 4 of subsection F on page 32 of the trade rules index states...). Lighten up, this isn't serious.

    P.S. You don't have to point out that Beno for Lebron isn't realistic either.

  18. #43
    RIP whottt. slayermin's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    5,011
    Beno + Barry or Finley + draft pick for Danny Granger.
    I like this trade but the Pacers would want TP or Manu for Granger.

  19. #44
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    74,377
    Bonner for Scola

  20. #45
    Believe. jay014's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Post Count
    479
    Bruce Bowen & Marcus Williams for Josh Smith.

  21. #46
    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Post Count
    11,756
    Parker for Kidd

  22. #47
    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Post Count
    11,756
    ducks for Amente

  23. #48
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    74,377
    ducks for Amente
    when has he been right last




    scola is not the best player the spurs could trade for

    he does not fit in this team
    why trade for him? To waste a roster spot?

  24. #49
    Believe. Fabbs's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Post Count
    15,577
    I don't want to see him go, but i think our chances for a 1st repeat and 3 of 4 would increase with

    Parker and Eva for
    Kobe and Wrinkleson

  25. #50
    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Post Count
    11,756
    when has he been right last




    scola is not the best player the spurs could trade for

    he does not fit in this team
    why trade for him? To waste a roster spot?
    It was a joke, just like 80% of the posts in this thread.

    Next time I will use or the to help you out.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •