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    I didn't see or hear the game, but it sounds like Grant Hill is fitting in very nicely. I think it's gonna be a great year!

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    Yeah, it'll be a great year for Grant.........up until the ASG when a leg or a foot will fall off.

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    D'Antoni doesn't understand the concept of limiting his main guys' minutes during the Regular. Grant Hill would be a fantastic addition for 20-25 mpg. The 30-35 mpg he'll get under D'Antoni? Not so much.

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    This is sort of off-topic, but I wonder about it every time this subject is raised.

    How in the @#$%! can you coach a run 'n' gun team and not have a balanced system of subs utions that uses most of your bench? It makes zero sense. Wouldn't you want to keep fresh legs in there at all times? In other words, D'Antoni's methods would be stupid with a conventional team, but he is completely braindead for doing it with this particular team.

    Ron Mexico mentioned the shorter European basketball schedules in another thread, and that is the only rational answer I can find. Still, you would think the dumbass would realize that it takes 100+ games to win a championship in the NBA. (Sweeping every series is still 98 games.)

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    start suns envy here....

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    Sean Marks
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    The coaching staff has been giddy about him for a couple months now.

    He might be able to diminish the production drop off when Nash rests.

    His ball handling skills are similar to Joe Johnson, but he's not nearly the three point shooter. I saw him shoot a few in the scrimmage and it was UGLY. He hit a couple, but his form was not pretty.

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    I watched the game and Hill looked real good out there. I was impressed but if D'Antoni doesn't watch his minutes he'll be done before the playoffs.

    The guy I was most impressed with was Marcus Banks. He looked more comfortable, was hitting the shots he was supposed to, and active on defense. Of course I'll wait and see if he can do this during the regular season.

    Alando Tucker looks like he'll get lost in the mix. Only played in the 4th quarter but other than a couple nice passes wasn't much a factor.

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    Good info "loveforthegame".

    Im going to the Suns/Hornets game on Saturday. I want to see Hill's three point shot up close.

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    start suns envy here....
    I wish my team had Mike D'Antoni and Steve Nash so the Mavericks could get credit for saving basketball. Oh wait, wrong Suns troll...

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    I wish my team had Mike D'Antoni and Steve Nash so the Mavericks could get credit for saving basketball. Oh wait, wrong Suns troll...
    Suns are doing their part. Told ya yesterday you wouldn't see any of that eighty-something to sixty-something garbage.

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    What are the big man rotations for the Suns? Who do they have this season at the 4 and 5 besides Stoudemire?

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    What are the big man rotations for the Suns? Who do they have this season at the 4 and 5 besides Stoudemire?

    Skinner and Diaw.

    So.....nobody.

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    Suns are doing their part. Told ya yesterday you wouldn't see any of that eighty-something to sixty-something garbage.
    thank god they have high scoring preseason games, because that's what the people want to see.

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    Skinner and Diaw.

    So.....nobody.

    So they're going to trot out lineups with Skinner, Diaw, Stoudemire, and possibly Marks as their only big man options? Looks like they're going small ball or bust this season. I thought they were much more dangerous last year when they could trot Thomas out to give a different look and matchup.

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    So they're going to trot out lineups with Skinner, Diaw, Stoudemire, and possibly Marks as their only big man options? Looks like they're going small ball or bust this season. I thought they were much more dangerous last year when they could trot Thomas out to give a different look and matchup.

    Its never an issue until they play San Antonio.

    The Suns thumped the Mavericks in April last year and KT didn't even play (coaches decision).

    D'Antoni believes that putting KT in didn't stop Duncan at all and also slowed the Suns down so it was a double negative.

    Maybe he's right. Maybe a double team with Marion (if Stoudemire or Diaw was guarding him) would be more effective.

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    Its never an issue until they play San Antonio.

    The Suns thumped the Mavericks in April last year and KT didn't even play (coaches decision).

    D'Antoni believes that putting KT in didn't stop Duncan at all and also slowed the Suns down so it was a double negative.

    Maybe he's right. Maybe a double team with Marion (if Stoudemire or Diaw was guarding him) would be more effective.

    I think it'll be effective during the regular season when they see a steady dose of inferior teams mixed in with the occasional elite team (just like every other elite team), but it's damn risky IMO. Stoudemire's already having another knee surgery, and if by misfortune he goes down that front court is going to be less than horrible. I think even the Mavs, with their own lack of front court greatness, could find a way to exploit the paint to their advantage. Against the Mavs it would all pretty much come down to how effective the guards, especially PGs are in controlling tempo and taking care of the ball. Against the Spurs I really don't see a way that the Suns can match up for a 7 game series. Sure they can double Duncan and possibly take the ball out of his hands at times, but Parker, Ginobili, and the other guards/wings are just too good at ball control and tempo control to run into the ground.

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    It will be interesting to see how it unfolds this season, but it seems like D'Antoni and the FO are going all out in the small ball run and gun sets and are going to live and die by it. I know that's D'Antoni's preferred style and I give him credit for going all in with it, but I just don't think it will work in the playoffs unless they somehow avoid the Spurs and possibly the Mavs, Rockets, and even Jazz.

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    I think it'll be effective during the regular season when they see a steady dose of inferior teams mixed in with the occasional elite team (just like every other elite team), but it's damn risky IMO. Stoudemire's already having another knee surgery, and if by misfortune he goes down that front court is going to be less than horrible. I think even the Mavs, with their own lack of front court greatness, could find a way to exploit the paint to their advantage. Against the Mavs it would all pretty much come down to how effective the guards, especially PGs are in controlling tempo and taking care of the ball. Against the Spurs I really don't see a way that the Suns can match up for a 7 game series. Sure they can double Duncan and possibly take the ball out of his hands at times, but Parker, Ginobili, and the other guards/wings are just too good at ball control and tempo control to run into the ground.
    Well, If Duncan or Nowitski goes down, you could say the same for San Antonio or Dallas. Thats the thing, you have to hope your team stays healthy to even have a chance.

    But I don't think a front court of Marion, Diaw, Skinner and Marks would be "less than horrible".

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    I think it'll be effective during the regular season when they see a steady dose of inferior teams mixed in with the occasional elite team (just like every other elite team), but it's damn risky IMO. Stoudemire's already having another knee surgery, and if by misfortune he goes down that front court is going to be less than horrible.
    Could you imagine the suns against a team like Houston with Yao and Scola in the paint?

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    It will be interesting to see how it unfolds this season, but it seems like D'Antoni and the FO are going all out in the small ball run and gun sets and are going to live and die by it. I know that's D'Antoni's preferred style and I give him credit for going all in with it, but I just don't think it will work in the playoffs unless they somehow avoid the Spurs and possibly the Mavs, Rockets, and even Jazz.

    The Suns OWN the Rockets and would beat the Jazz in five. Everyone loves to point out how the Jazz beat the Suns three times but two of those were during their terrible start (one where Nash didn't even play) and the Suns DESTROYED the Jazz in Utah in their final meeting.

    I don't worry about the Mavs. The Suns and Nash have a mental edge over the Mavs and Dirk.

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    Could you imagine the suns against a team like Houston with Yao and Scola in the paint?

    Are you serious?

    Have you EVER seen these two teams play?

    Its usually not even close.

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    Could you imagine the suns against a team like Houston with Yao and Scola in the paint?
    That's the thing, I don't think the Rockets have the quality guards to control the tempo and keep the Suns in check. I think the Suns could possibly run Yao into 2nd half ineffectiveness and could beat the Rockets with that small lineup. The Spurs on the other hand have a world class PG and SG that have shown an ability to control tempo and slow the Suns down.

    Besides, I'm still not sold on Scola being anything more than a marginal player.

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    The Suns OWN the Rockets and would beat the Jazz in five. Everyone loves to point out how the Jazz beat the Suns three times but two of those were during their terrible start (one where Nash didn't even play) and the Suns DESTROYED the Jazz in Utah in their final meeting.

    I don't worry about the Mavs. The Suns and Nash have a mental edge over the Mavs and Dirk.
    That's why I said maybe, because this is a new season and things may be different against those lineups. Probably not, but I still think the Suns' le hopes rest on not seeing the Spurs in April or May.

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    Suns are doing their part. Told ya yesterday you wouldn't see any of that eighty-something to sixty-something garbage.

    Yes, preseason games are an absolute barometer for the health of basketball. I got some warming lotion and my pants are around my ankles, can I get some footage of a Suns practice or scrimmage?

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