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You are right, he has no follow through on his jumper, it is simply disgusting.
Tony Parker is quite possibly the worst jumpshooting guard in the NBA. The following is copied from my blog (which is linked in my signature).
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Then there's Tony Parker. Unfortunately the league has finally figured out how to guard him. I'll spell it out for everyone. Here it is. You have your pens and papers ready?
Step 1. Put a long and/or muscular player on him.
Step 2. GO UNDER THE SCREEN AND ROLL.
Step 3. Reread Step 2.
It's that simple and I have no idea what has taken teams so long to figure this out. Here's the thing. Tony Parker is quite possibly the worst jump-shooting guard in the NBA. Tony Parker is quite possibly the worst jump-shooting guard in the NBA. Reread those last two sentences. Despite being maybe the best finishing PG in the game, the man cannot consistently hit the J. Want proof? His effective FG% on jump shots is 41.1%. That is AWFUL. The following is a list of the rest of the Spurs effective FG% on jump shots:
Udrih -- 48.5%
Ginobili -- 51.0%
Barry -- 46.8%
Brown -- 42.8%
Bowen -- 49.2%
Duncan -- 41.3%
Nesterovic -- 34.5%
Horry -- 46.1%
According to ESPN.com, Kirk Hinrich has the lowest (non-effective) shooting percentage of qualified guards. His effective FG% on jump shots is 44.8%.
I knew, before even looking at the numbers, that Parker was a horrible shooter. Yet NBA teams, complete with advance scouts, endless game tape and the same internet I use still go over the top of just about every screen, exposing some big man who has no hope of preventing Parker from penetrating into the lane where he kills opponents. This drives me crazy.
I mean, , just look at the way he shoots. He's got the most awful follow through -- he's one of those damned wrist-flickers -- after his shot his arm isn't extended all the way. Think of the great free throw shooters -- Reggie Miller, Damon Stoudamire, Steve Kerr, Ray Allen -- they all end with there arms fully extended. The only decent shooting wrist-flicker I can think of is Brent Barry.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not mad at Tony Parker. I love the guy as a player; I was hoping the Spurs wouldn't sign Kidd because of The Wee Frechman. Blind stupidity in sports just really pisses me off. When it comes to baseball, every at bat Rey Ordonez gets, every "pitching and defense wins championships" comment goes right to my core like someone slapped my face. This is just a basketball equivalent of that.
You are right, he has no follow through on his jumper, it is simply disgusting.
He also gets to the rack easier than almost any player in the league.
Every player has their strengths and their weaknesses.
Not only can he get to the rack, he can finish. His effective FG% "close" is 63.8%, which is ridiculously high for a guard. In fact, it's better than Duncan (57.7%).
You're right, every player has strengths and weaknesses, but rarely are they both at the extremes: worst shooting guard and (possibly) best finishing guard.
The main point of my entry was NBA teams continue to guard him in the stupidest of manners.
If Parker could get to the line more and hit his FT's I could accept the sub-standard shooting. But if he wants to take his game to the next level like his talent suggests, he will need to either start producing more at the line, or become a reasonable 3pt shooter (or a combination of both). Otherwise he will continue to seen as an above average PG with unfulfilled potential.
Well I believe Tony can improve his shooting. Not many players can improve to be able to get to the rack like he can. In the next few years I believe Tony is going to really develop his all-around game. He's already improved his defense ten-fold. His jump shooting should (hopefully) improve over the next few seasons.
As I noted in another thread I'd also like to see Parker begin to think about change of pace and change of direction on drives not just blow and go. Watch some Nash tapes.
I question his commitment to improving his jumper. Haven't seen any signs of it so far in all his years here and while he's been the starting guard from day one.. It's getting a little late to say, "well, wait til he grows up, he's only (fill in blank here) years old.
You're in a position to know. Does he really work on it? I mean like shooting 500 shots every day?
If it was that easy to stop Parker, I wonder why he is scoring 16.6 points per game.
The way you are trying to resolve the problem creates another: who will you put on Manu?
If you matchup Tony with a SG, you will probably slow him a bit, but you will have an horrible matchup with your PG against Manu. It is not a solution, you are just moving the problem to another matchup.
The only problem with Tony's game is that he is too much dependent on Tim and Manu to create his shots.
He can't be the first offensive threat because he can't cope with a defense focused in stoping him. Since he has Manu and Tim, defenders must worry about at least 2 other players and Tony has some freedom to attack the other PG and to create for himself or for his teamates
I know he worked on it somewhat this summer. How much? I don't know to be honest. I can ask around. I think his game improved a lot on the defensive end this season, which I like. So I'm not complaining much about his jumpshooting. But yes, if it doesn't improve in the next couple seasons by him putting in hard work on it, that would suck.
Except that if he went to college, he'd be a rookie now. Gary Payton's jumper was so bad at 24 or 25 that Seattle was ready to dump him. He turned out allright.It's getting a little late to say, "well, wait til he grows up, he's only (fill in blank here) years old.
I think that Parker had done some good shooting his first few years, and has slid back a bit, specifically from beyond the arc. In a way, his commitment to defense may be leaving him with tired legs late in the game. I would like to see him work on his endurance, as well as repe ive shooting drills. He should really have a shooting coach work with him, and shoot beaucoup jumpers every day this summer. If Parker could add a consistant jumper, it doesn't even have to be great, he could become the best all around PG in the game. He's already pretty much unstoppable off the dribble, and his decision making and defense have vastly improved. I think a better jumpshot form would also bleed over into his FT shooting.
Considering most Spurs fans had Avery as their starting pg for quite a few years, Tony's jumpshot is not something I will lose sleep over. Like it's been alluded to above, Tony seems the type of player who will look to improve his game as time goes by.
Though I didn't list it as number 1, the main component to slowing Parker is how you play the pick and roll, not who you have guarding him. However, I think teams should put their better guard defender on Parker. Not because he's a better offensive player than Ginobili, but rather due to the fact that the offense runs through Parker and he uses more possessions per game than Manu.
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Is there a stat which breaks overall shooting %age into paint (layups and short jumpers/runners) and non-paint(jumpers)?
Tony's fine in the paint. But the general observation is that his jumpers and FTs that are below average, but I'd like to the stats. Bad shot mechanics, and overall weak athleticism/body control. Even when he's laying up off his correct foot, he looks like he's flat-footed off the wrong foot. It looks he wants to stop at the basket and put in in, rather than lay it up as he runs through/under the basket. Weird, and clumsy.
Tony scores because not many teams are capable of shutting down the paint (or even pretend to play defense), the way Lakers did last May, and the way Heat did @MIA, and the way Rockets did last night (Spurs -6 in the paint, only 28 vs 34.), and the way I think Mavs will under AJ, and the way Pistons will when preparing for/focusing on Spurs in the playoffs. Combined with his qtrs of nothing on offense, he surely has long way to go on offense.
Even if he's 22, 4 years in the NBA is quite enough to be close to potential. He went to a non-academic sports insi ute and played pro for 3 or 4 years before the Spurs. How many years of professional compe ion does it take to learn how to shoot the damn ball?
But one can't be too picky because his rebounding and defense has looked great this season. Noticeable improvements in two key deparments in one season is quite enough.
Worse than the shooting is his inconsitency for a 1 qtr, a half, a game. Some games, he looks so detached and uninvolved and unalert with a near-empty stat line.
rember a guy named aj
parker can make a jumpshot easier then that fellow
lets trade him for that broken down point guard named kidd
HAHAHAHA. I love how Ducks brings up Kidd every time someone says something bad about Tony. Kind of like how Whott brings up Barry every time someone says something bad about....well any spurs player
Knowing pop I think pop told tp to work on his d this summer more then his jumpshot
At least he's developed a bonafide jumper rather than that crappy set shot he had in his rookie season.
dude is 22 years old, he has plenty of time to develop a good jumper. he may not even be done growing yet.
http://82games.com/04SAS2A.HTM
That site lists effective FG%, which is total points scored on shots (FT not counted) divided by FGA*2. It basically accounts for the fact that shooting 40% from three point land is better than shooting 50% from two point land.
Here come the excuses.
yep working on what pop wants you to do during offeason or doing what ice wants him to do
humm I wonder what will result in more playing time
Spare me the Bull . You're just speculating that Pop told him to work on defense. Take off the homer goggles.
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