If this happens...
Honestly...
Just get rid of the East and call it a day after the WCF.
Seriously.
Do it.
The Mavs weren't a powerhouse to begin with. They've been underdogs this whole decade...Powerhouses win championships and win seven-game series.Kobe+Dirk=2008 Champs! Bank on that! Make it happen! The Sooner this happens, the sooner we become an even bigger ing powerhouse!!
Dude I think the pressure of the your bands performance tomarrow night at the University of North Texas Campus in Denton,TX is really getting to you. I know the UNT Campus Police will be there for the saftey and enjoyment for your band so what are you so stressed about? Dude you are going to do great. You will have my support 100%! I am stoaked to see you guys finally. Mono and Findog told me they will try to make the trip to show you even more spurstalk.com support!
LA shouldn't do any deal that doesn't include dirk. they already got hosed by miami once this decade, i doubt they're excited to get way unequal value again.
This would be a steal for the Mavs!!! However, I am pretty sure this trade won't go down. Why would Buss trade a blockbuster superstar for two guys that are good players, but thats about it? Buss is simply trying to get more offers on the table. Alot of people forgot about the Bulls. Yesterday, it was reported that the Bulls were interested. From my perspective, the Bulls have much more interesting talent. Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, Wallace, Noah, etc. I would rather do a trade with the Bulls if we are talking about pure talent and players who can possibly draw a crowd. I am sure better offers will come in...In the end, I expect Kobe to stay put till the end of the season though...
Are you guys seriously going out to that band's shows because you still think I'm the drummer?Dude I think the pressure of the your bands performance tomarrow night at the University of North Texas Campus in Denton,TX is really getting to you. I know the UNT Campus Police will be there for the saftey and enjoyment for your band so what are you so stressed about? Dude you are going to do great. You will have my support 100%! I am stoaked to see you guys finally. Mono and Findog told me they will try to make the trip to show you even more spurstalk.com support!
Sorry to burst the fun bubble, but I'm just not that drummer.
You didn't put a question mark after a question. Slacker.
I really wish I could come to tx to see your percussion skills at work.
Terry and Howard for Kobe? Pleaseeeeee
What kind of crackhead trade is that? Not gonna happen.
It's a thing of beauty. It will make you cry.
Oh yeah, on topic...this is probably bs, but if I'm the Mavs, I do this deal. Kobe and Dirk cover each other's weaknesses...a lack of mental toughness and an inability to do "The Man" type things on one hand, and selfishness and thinking that you're bigger than the game on the other. It would work because there would be no question who the Alpha Dog on this team would be. That's a role that should be Dirk's because of his talent, but he's not suited for it because of his easygoing temperament. Kobe seems like the kind of guy who would sell his kid for any kind of personal advantage.
If this were the deal straight up. No doubt Dallas has to do it. Harris, Kobe, Stack, Dirk would be amazing
Any update or was this purely bull ?
Kobe has a no-trade clause. Since the whole point of his demanding a trade is that he wants to go somewhere where he can win more than he can in LA, there is no chance that he goes to a Dallas without Dirk or a Phoenix without Amare. He'd just refuse the trade and keep pressuring Kupchak and Buss to accept something less (see Minnesota where KG originally killed the trade to Boston when it included the Celtics first round pick--then after Boston spent that pick on Ray Allen, KG allowed the trade, but Minnesota got less than the original offer)
Lakers get raped in this deal regardless of who they get for Kobe.
This trade won't happen.
Wow, it's fun to see all the Mavs fans totally bail off the Dirk bandwagon here in hopes they get Kobe. You guys really don't trust him now.
??
How many post in this thread said they want Dirk to be traded for Kobe?
kobe for dirk i'd be worried... you'd be replacing the choke franchise player with a clutch franchise player.
but kobe + dirk together, sans the young depth that makes the mavs a good team in the first place? please god make it happen! plus they'd be at each others throats within weeks (or more likely, throwing each other under the bus through the media, but you get the picture).
Dirk for Kobe does us no better than we are now, maybe even puts Dallas off worse. But if we can do any trade for kobe without dealing harris or dirk, you have to do it.
Wanting Kobe to be Dirk's teammate means we don't trust Dirk?Wow, it's fun to see all the Mavs fans totally bail off the Dirk bandwagon here in hopes they get Kobe. You guys really don't trust him now.
I'd drop Josh and Jet for him in a heartbeat, but I can't see the Lakers going for that.
unlike you, I don't post bull . This was on the 5:00 Sportscenter yesterday. I have yet to find any other links to it besides a couple blog entries that noted the same SC report.
nobody said anything about getting rid of Dirk or not trusting him. If you have a chance to get the best basketball player on earth, you ing do it. This doesn't have to do with Dirk.Wow, it's fun to see all the Mavs fans totally bail off the Dirk bandwagon here in hopes they get Kobe. You guys really don't trust him now.
Kobe's complete inability to lead his team in a meaningful way means I'm having a hard time caring at all about this trade. I don't know that he makes any team better by being on it, which is a shame considering his incredible talent level. The train wreck that would be the Mavericks with Kobe, Dirk, Cuban and the Dallas fans would be incredibly fun to witness, though.
Two problems...
1. What happens when Kobe starts ball hogging from Dirk?
2. Who guards Manu for the Mavs now? Howard was the only one who could stay in front of him. And please don't say Kobe, because Manu has abused him the last two years on the offensive end.
Regardless, I think this is wishful thinking for Mavs fans, you'll see teams come in with more than this to offer LA.
I uses realgm trade checker
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Houston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +7.0 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and -1.1 apg.
Incoming Players
Kobe Bryant
6-6 SG from Lower Merion (HS)
31.6 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg in 40.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Tracy McGrady
6-8 SG from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS)
24.6 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 6.5 apg in 35.8 minutes
L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -7.0 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and +1.1 apg.
So T-Macs and KJobe = each others on machine. Then Laker need more point guard so,
Successful Trade Scenario
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Due to Houston and L.A. Lakers being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Houston and L.A. Lakers had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Houston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -3.1 ppg, -1.6 rpg, and -4.7 apg.
Incoming Players
Kobe Bryant
6-6 SG from Lower Merion (HS)
31.6 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg in 40.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Mike James
6-2 PG from Duquesne
10.1 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 3.6 apg in 25.3 minutes
Tracy McGrady
6-8 SG from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS)
24.6 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 6.5 apg in 35.8 minutes
L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.1 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and +4.7 apg.
Lakers get:
PG James/Fisher/Farmar
SG McGrady/Evans/Crittenton
SF Odom/Walton/Vujicic
PF Brown/Radmanovic/Cook
C Bynum/Mihm/Turiaf
This James and T-Mac much better deal for Laker compares to Terry/Howard.
why? yeah Tmac is a bigger star than Howard but tmac is on the decline. lakers want young superstar potential.
neither trade helps the lakers.
Tmac isn't going anywhere and i don't think you can trade James until the season starts. by then the rockets will have a nice chemistry going and bringing in kobe would be like starting over in the middle of the season. bad idea.
Laker fan go to see "superstar potential" Howard?
Laker fan demand star player on team, by star I mean they demand have big name that can make 30 point.
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