Jerry Stackhouse

[lefty]

Of course the Spurs deserved it. They won. The point is that they had an easy road to the trophy this season, with their only real compe ion being eliminated by the NBA front office. The Spurs are wily, play dirty, use cheap shots and get bailed out by the refs and Stern, but they are still the most dominant team of the last 10 years or so.

Regardless of anyone's opinion of them they have won 4 rings now, something that most teams cannot lay claim to.

That's about as much props as can be reasonably expected from a Laker fan.

Stop being such vaginas with rabbit ears sensitive to the slightest criticism and enjoy the Spurs success.

There is not too much left before placing that team into a retirement home.

Easy road ? okay let's refresh

GS beat Dallas; then Utah destroys GS in 5; then we destroyed Utah in 5 games.

Spurs are the BEST team right now; period

Yeah the road was easy for Spurs because they are too good

[1Parker1]

Then why the fewest amount of games needed to win a le since the expansion to a 7-7-7-7 format?

Maybe because the Spurs were just playing that good at the time??? Take a look at the Spurs record and stats post all star break. It wasn't an easy road to the championship, it looked easier than it was because of the level of play the Spurs had at the time.

Spurs swept the Cavs and made it look easy. But people forget that this was the same Cavs team that just won 4 straight against a very good Detroit team. Lebron was coming of the best series of his career and he could have ridden that momentum right into the Spurs series. Denver was also a great team that I'm sure could have beaten or at least take any other team in the post season to at least 6-7 games. Jazz team just beat out a surging GS team that was coming off a high beating the Mavs.

It wasn't an easy road at all I don't think. Esp the Suns series.

[TonyParkerSux]

Easy road ? okay let's refresh

GS beat Dallas; then Utah destroys GS in 5; then we destroyed Utah in 5 games.

Spurs are the BEST team right now; period

Yeah the road was easy for Spurs because they are too good

conveniently leaving out the part about your only compe ion being eliminated by Stern and the NBA front office, effectively paving the way to another ring. spurs, Suns and Dallas were the only teams last season with any hope of winning it all. Dallas got punked in the first round, leaving an easy win for the Spurs against whichever team was left in the WCF, and everyone knows what how they got past the Suns. I'm sure that the Spurs did flips when the Mavs chocked, they probably would have beaten SA. Cleveland had no more chance against the WC champ than did New Jersey in 03. Easy road to a ring.

[stretch]

Who cares what posters think? Tim Duncan and many of the players have gone on record and said this was probably their hardest le run in terms of compe ion they had to go through to get the ring.

That is ridiculous. The road they went on in 2003 was a very talented road. That suns team was not a team to be taken lightly. We all know how great the Lakers were. And that Mavs team was pretty damn good too, until Dirk got hurt.

[TonyParkerSux]

, we gave Dallas the championship the year before and they choked it away.

Don't hate us for being able to close the deal, Stack.

good point as well. if there is one thing that the Spurs do well, it is closing out games.

[TonyParkerSux]

That is ridiculous. The road they went on in 2003 was a very talented road. That suns team was not a team to be taken lightly. We all know how great the Lakers were. And that Mavs team was pretty damn good too, until Dirk got hurt.

that was a very talented Mavs team, maybe your best shot at a le to date. You guys has SA on the ropes, even without Dirk, until Kerr and his slew of timely threes crushed the Mavs spirits.... Mavs would have easily dismisses the Nets in the Finals.... but then again, I thought that the Mavs were going to easily dismiss the Heat also. Guess you never know until the games are played.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I think that the Spurs may have made it look a little easier than it really was, but there's really no way in you can make the case that this year was the toughest. I might believe it was the most physical of them, but not the toughest. Especially for Tim.

I might argue that the teams faced in 99 were worse. Minnesota was young and way overmatched. In L.A. Shaq was out of shape and possibly injured (IIRC) and Kobe wasn't Kobe yet. They were also led by Kurt Rambis, 'nuf said. Player for player the Jailblazers were probably better but that talent was more than matched by their immaturity. And in the Finals were the remnants of the New York Knicks. No Ewing, LJ on a bum wheel. It took the combined efforts of Houston, Spree, and Bavetta for them to even steal one game in that series. The final record was 15-2. Even if the first round had been best of 7 I think it wouldn't have gone past game 5, which would have bested their 16-4 mark this year.

Stack needs to watch his mouth though about other teams imploding. As long as he doesn't throw around the "A" word I can live with it.

[LEONARD]

IT'S NOT FRIDAY YET !!!

[Findog]

IT'S NOT FRIDAY YET !!!

another broken promise

[TonyParkerSux]

As long as he doesn't throw around the "A" word I can live with it.

that phrase originally had some legitimacy to it, but the following decade of dominance and three additional les make anyone who says that SA needs an asterick look ignorant. there is no asterick, just four O'Brien trophies in SA's trophy case.

At the time though, the Spurs were known for not being able to get it done in the post-season.

[Findog]

that was a very talented Mavs team, maybe your best shot at a le to date. You guys has SA on the ropes, even without Dirk, until Kerr and his slew of timely threes crushed the Mavs spirits.... Mavs would have easily dismisses the Nets in the Finals.... but then again, I thought that the Mavs were going to easily dismiss the Heat also. Guess you never know until the games are played.

Uh what? On the ropes in Game Six? Maybe. On the ropes for the series? Not really.

[TonyParkerSux]

Uh what? On the ropes in Game Six? Maybe. On the ropes for the series? Not really.

what the else could i mean??

Spurs won the series 4-2, but needed 6 three pointers late in that game from a seldom used Kerr to go ahead, win the game and crush your team's spirit (the little they had left).

if you are looking to start a meaningless debate, at least choose at topic of contention that makes sense.

[FromWayDowntown]

what the else could i mean??

Spurs won the series 4-2, but needed 6 three pointers late in that game from a seldom used Kerr to go ahead, win the game and crush your team's spirit (the little they had left).

if you are looking to start a meaningless debate, at least choose at topic of contention that makes sense.

Actually, it was Stephen Jackson who got the Spurs back into that game.

Steve Kerr just hammered nails into the coffin.

As for Stackhouse's statement, I could see where someone might take it as being dismissive of the Spurs' le. It suggests that the Spurs might not have earned the le. In an era where fans of other teams routinely suggest that the Spurs' championships are somehow mere quirks of fate and not testament to a great team and organization, I can see where some fans might find the comments offensive. It's one thing for a group of fans to say that their team's run was the easiest one yet; it's something else for another player in the league to say that the run was easy.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter one bit -- Stackhouse has provided bulletin board material, in a sense, to Cleveland, Utah, and Denver more than he has done anything to diss the Spurs.

Finally, as to the notion that the league office got rid of the Spurs' greatest foe, I don't get why the Suns were en led to have a rule that had expressly calls for a suspension and has been consistently enforced in NBA history applied differently to them. Nobody has ever explained that to me. Are the Suns so freakin' special that they deserve to have the rules bent in their favor? If you don't want to get suspended, don't leave the bench during an altercation. Pretty simple stuff.

[TonyParkerSux]

Finally, as to the notion that the league office got rid of the Spurs' greatest foe, I don't get why the Suns were en led to have a rule that had expressly calls for a suspension and has been consistently enforced in NBA history applied differently to them. Nobody has ever explained that to me. Are the Suns so freakin' special that they deserve to have the rules bent in their favor? If you don't want to get suspended, don't leave the bench during an altercation. Pretty simple stuff.

maybe so, but the "spirit of the rule" was broken there. The bottom line is that the Spurs were rewarded and the Suns were punished for yet another dirty, cheap shot from Robert Horry (who now has a history of this type of play). any different take is simply homerism.

that being considered, it is still the responsibility of the Suns' players to remain on the bench during an on the court conflict.

my point is that that series was decided in the front office in Manhattan, not on the courts of SA and Phoenix.

[Chris]

Ultimately, it doesn't matter one bit -- Stackhouse has provided bulletin board material, in a sense, to Cleveland, Utah, and Denver more than he has done anything to diss the Spurs.

[Chris]

maybe so, but the "spirit of the rule" was broken there. The bottom line is that the Spurs were rewarded and the Suns were punished for yet another dirty, cheap shot from Robert Horry (who now has a history of this type of play). any different take is simply homerism.

that being considered, it is still the responsibility of the Suns' players to remain on the bench during an on the court conflict.

my point is that that series was decided in the front office in Manhattan, not on the courts of SA and Phoenix.

contradictions left and right

[FromWayDowntown]

maybe so, but the "spirit of the rule" was broken there. The bottom line is that the Spurs were rewarded and the Suns were punished for yet another dirty, cheap shot from Robert Horry (who now has a history of this type of play). any different take is simply homerism.

The Suns were punished for leaving the bench in reaction to Horry's cheap shot. If they didn't want to be punished they shouldn't have left the bench, because the black letter penalty for leaving the bench -- the one that has been applied every time that a player has left the bench during an on-court altercation -- has been suspension. Thus, while you say:

my point is that that series was decided in the front office in Manhattan, not on the courts of SA and Phoenix.

the truth is that the series was decided (to the extent that Amare and Boris being suspended completely cost the Suns the series) in the minds of two young men who failed to maintain their poise in a situation that every NBA team talks about. What took place in the league office was simply the continued enforcement of a black-letter rule that has always been enforced in that manner.

Again, suggesting that the result should have been any different is necessarily an argument that the Suns were somehow en led to special treatment. I'm not sure what en les the Phoenix Suns to be treated differently than every other team in basketball.

[Chris]

the truth is that the series was decided (to the extent that Amare and Boris being suspended completely cost the Suns the series) in the minds of two young men who failed to maintain their poise in a situation that every NBA team talks about. What took place in the league office was simply the continued enforcement of a black-letter rule that has always been enforced in that manner.

Exactly, Amare and Boris thought it was go-time at the playground.

[sprrs]

I don't disagree that Stackhouse shouldn't be the one breaking a story like this. It's not smart. but I think he was point out the obvious more than slighting the Spurs. Perhaps I'm wrong... It happens frequently...

Stackhouse also fails to realize that their road to the championship would have been similar. They would have played Utah in the second round, Spurs/Suns in the Third, and Cleveland in the finals. And Denver arguably > Golden State. As a matter of fact, the Mavs theoretically could have had an easier road to the championship.

[TonyParkerSux]

The Suns were punished for leaving the bench in reaction to Horry's cheap shot. If they didn't want to be punished they shouldn't have left the bench, because the black letter penalty for leaving the bench -- the one that has been applied every time that a player has left the bench during an on-court altercation -- has been suspension. Thus, while you say:



the truth is that the series was decided (to the extent that Amare and Boris being suspended completely cost the Suns the series) in the minds of two young men who failed to maintain their poise in a situation that every NBA team talks about. What took place in the league office was simply the continued enforcement of a black-letter rule that has always been enforced in that manner.

Again, suggesting that the result should have been any different is necessarily an argument that the Suns were somehow en led to special treatment. I'm not sure what en les the Phoenix Suns to be treated differently than every other team in basketball.

I understand all of your listed points, as they are all basically saying the same thing, so allow me to be redundant as well.

Horry was rewarded for a cheap shot. He got the desired reaction from the Suns with the desired result. The letter of the law worked in the Spurs favor, allowing them to advance past a team that they would not have otherwise beaten. It is poorly constructed rule that should be revisited. No where has anyone, at any time suggested that the Suns are special when rules are concerned, just that the Spurs were rewarded for playing dirty.

I conceded in my previous post that the two young men for the Suns should have stayed on the bench, and I am very aware of the letter of the rule.

This result is not dissimilar to the civil case that rewarded a judgment to the thief that twisted his ankle on an old lady's roof while trying to rob her house. ..letter of the law.

[resistanze]

It was a rather easy route to the championship, at least compared to the Spurs run in say, 2005.

What's ironic about Stack's comments though, is that the Mavericks were the main reason why the route was pretty easy for the Spurs. I mean, if the Mavs had beaten the Warriors, the Spurs and Mavs probably meet in the WCF in an epic showdown. So the statement doesn't make much sense coming out of Stack's mouth or any of their players.

[Findog]

what the else could i mean??

Spurs won the series 4-2, but needed 6 three pointers late in that game from a seldom used Kerr to go ahead, win the game and crush your team's spirit (the little they had left).

if you are looking to start a meaningless debate, at least choose at topic of contention that makes sense.

Up 3-1 without Dirk, and losing at one point in Game 6, doesnt mean the Spurs were on the ropes. You're the one who needs to start making sense.

[Findog]

The letter of the law worked in the Spurs favor, allowing them to advance past a team that they would not have otherwise beaten.

Down 20 points in the fourth quarter of a close-out game with their full complement of players. Lost 3 games at full strength in the series while only winning two. Helpful hint: You don't know anything about basketball.

Have a Nice Day.

[TonyParkerSux]

Up 3-1 without Dirk, and losing at one point in Game 6, doesnt mean the Spurs were on the ropes. You're the one who needs to start making sense.

they were for that game. again, stop trying to create meaningless debates, and if you do select a point of contention that makes sense.

[TonyParkerSux]

Down 20 points in the fourth quarter of a close-out game with their full complement of players. Lost 3 games at full strength in the series while only winning two. Helpful hint: You don't know anything about basketball.

Have a Nice Day.

you are a spur ass kissing jackass. if you would like to debate something of substance, please do so. you are just making random, ignorant replys to fragments of posts.

helpful hint: kissing spur poster ass is not an acceptable subs ute for basketball knowledge. it is being a punk.

some of the worst posts i've seen on this board...