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    They were playing the Houston ing Texans.

    That game was sold out since it was on in the Jacksonville area. A lot of people probably didn't think it was worth the trouble going.

    Jacksonville has more than proven it deserves and NFL franchise.

    Unless SA is willing to s out big money for a state of the art stadium, it's not getting a pro franchise, period!
    Your second sentence doesn't make much sense, but whatever.

    The knock on Jacksonville was that they were a small market and that they wouldn't work as an expansion team for that reason.

    According to you, it's proven that it deserves a NFL franchise. Using that ratinale, San Antonio should have an equal chance at a NFL franchise.

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    You're basing all this on 1 game that wasn't sold out?

    Okay, that makes sense.

    But, do me a favor, give me the number of tickets that would need to be sold for a football season and compare them to the number of tickets actually sold by the Spurs in one season.

    Tell me wich is the greater.
    You can try to split hairs all you want, but it was a pretty big ing game, and it didn't sell out. That looks BAD. Someone on the outside is going to look at that and give it a lot of weight. More than it deserves? Perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that they will. It doesn't matter how many tickets you sell in the regular season if there's a perception that the fans use that as justification for not selling out a conference finals game (exactly what you are doing, in fact). What's to stop that same fan base from using that same excuse for not buying football tickets? Before anyone entertains the idea of relocating a franchise, especially to a small market, that should never enter the conversation.

    Emotionally, I want San Antonio to have a pro team as much as anybody. Personally, I'd rather they not get one and have it fail, and I'm not going to deny the factors that a businessman would take into account, but a fan would try to overlook.

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    You can try to split hairs all you want, but it was a pretty big ing game, and it didn't sell out. That looks BAD. Someone on the outside is going to look at that and give it a lot of weight. More than it deserves? Perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that they will. It doesn't matter how many tickets you sell in the regular season if there's a perception that the fans use that as justification for not selling out a conference finals game (exactly what you are doing, in fact). What's to stop that same fan base from using that same excuse for not buying football tickets? Before anyone entertains the idea of relocating a franchise, especially to a small market, that should never enter the conversation.

    Emotionally, I want San Antonio to have a pro team as much as anybody. Personally, I'd rather they not get one and have it fail, and I'm not going to deny the factors that a businessman would take into account, but a fan would try to overlook.
    I just can't believe that you're basing all this on 1 game not being sold out.

    As a business man, I would look at total revenue pulled in. I wouldn't concentrate on 1 game not being sold out. As a business man, the bottom line is the only thing I'd worry about. And, I don't see the Spurs starving for money.

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    I just can't believe that you're basing all this on 1 game not being sold out.

    As a business man, I would look at total revenue pulled in. I wouldn't concentrate on 1 game not being sold out. As a business man, the bottom line is the only thing I'd worry about. And, I don't see the Spurs starving for money.
    When a one sport town can't sell out playoff games for its championship team, that's a good indication it's not ready for a second team.

    And the only reason the Spurs are still in San Antonio is because they got a new building in order to start turning a profit. The vote to build the stadium took place during a championship celebration, and still only got 60% of the votes.

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    100 mil for the most re ed running back/qb combo ever hasslebeck n alexander. Seattle sports has fallen to it's lowest point ever.

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    You're basing all this on 1 game that wasn't sold out?

    Okay, that makes sense.

    But, do me a favor, give me the number of tickets that would need to be sold for a football season and compare them to the number of tickets actually sold by the Spurs in one season.

    Tell me wich is the greater.
    OK. In 2006, the Redskins had over 700,000 fans come see them in eight games at 109% of stadium capacity, or just less than 50,000 less than the Wizards had in 41 games at 91% capacity. First in the league. The Redskins outdraw the Cowboys by 200,000 people and both parks sitting empty in Los Angeles (Rose Bowl 90K, Coliseum 92K) have seating capacities greater than DC's FedEx Field.

    My point? The Spurs got about 765,000 last year at 101% (9th), about 10K more than Washington. San Antonio would have to damn near match that number in the middle of basketball season to even match Los Angeles' potential for NFL attendance, and the max capacity of the Dome over eight NFL games is only 524K.

    SA needs to be cheering for some disgruntled rich asshole to hurry up, move to Los Angeles, and pull them out of the equation before seriously setting focus on hooking a franchise.

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