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    fire did'nt bring down the building...give it up.....the only possible explanation is that the inner-core was compromised....

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    At least in the case of the JFK assasination, there was an alternative theory by the conspiracists (the Mafia, LBJ, the defense contractors, etc).

    What is the theory here?

    Oh, I know . . . Bush and Cheney wanted to go to war with Iraq so they devised this incredible plan where they financed and trained 20 AQ members to fly planes into the WTC. They also planted explosives in the interior of the buildings just in case the planes would not do the trick.

    I get it now.

    Where do I sign to become a thuther? It all makes perfect sense now.

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    Yeah, yeah.....we've been down this road before...but I don't completely buy into the theory that the building core could have collapsed the way it did even with the top third of the building collapsing on top of it....for instance, try stomping your foot on the edge of a sharp nail in a board facing upward and see what happens....
    A good part of at least one of the cores remained standing after the building fell. It can be seen in the videos.

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    chump you just got an ugly lesson in physics

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    Oh !

    The mookster is here.

    I better stop posting before he reminds me I have not read the 9/11 Commission Report.

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    chump you just got an ugly lesson in physics
    Why is it ugly? That's exactly what happened. I'd like to thank Dan for verifying that.

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    fire did'nt bring down the building...give it up.....the only possible explanation is that the inner-core was compromised....
    No one is claiming fire alone was the cause.

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    when it comes to anything scientific dan reigns on you

    historically you make pheneomanual look like clandestino

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    No one is claiming fire alone was the cause.
    ....then explain WTC7....

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    Dan:

    Chew on this for awhile and then tell me fire wasn't a component in the World Trade Center collapses.

    Purdue creates scientifically based animation of 9/11 attack

    "The aircraft moved through the building as if it were a hot and fast lava flow," Sozen says. "Consequently, much of the fireproofing insulation was ripped off the structure. Even if all of the columns and girders had survived the impact - an unlikely event - the structure would fail as the result of a buckling of the columns. The heat from an ordinary office fire would suffice to soften and weaken the unprotected steel. Evaluation of the effects of the fire on the core column structure, with the insulation removed by the impact, showed that collapse would follow whatever the number of columns cut at the time of the impact."
    I still don't see any zebras.

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    when it comes to anything scientific dan reigns on you
    But he's saying he expected to see what really happened.

    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...manz/wtc18.jpg

    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...manz/wtc19.jpg

    There's Dan's nail, sticking up through his foot, however briefly.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 10-23-2007 at 05:31 PM. Reason: Images were blowing margins. Links work.

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    ....then explain WTC7....
    I already have. The NIST says that a gouge in WTC 7 that extended into approximately 25% of the front of the buildings first 10 floors, caused by debris from the falling tower, fatally compromised the building. Then, a fire fed by a pressurized fuel line that fed from the basement up to somewhere mid building delivered the final wound.

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    when it comes to anything scientific dan reigns on you
    And you say this because you must be a scientist yourself . . .

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    Look, the other nail in Dan's foot is even more clear!

    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...manz/wtc36.jpg
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 10-23-2007 at 05:30 PM.

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    Here's a good view of how the north tower hit 7 WTC.


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    Dan:

    Chew on this for awhile and then tell me fire wasn't a component in the World Trade Center collapses.

    Purdue creates scientifically based animation of 9/11 attack


    I still don't see any zebras.
    Yes, yes, I've briefly met Dr. Popescu....you can see a computer visualization of his findings here

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    Here's another nail picture.


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    Yes, yes, I've briefly met Dr. Popescu....you can see a computer visualization of his findings here
    So the planes damaged core girders.

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    By the way, Mete Sozen was the same guy who led the study of the Oklahoma City bombing... Another case where footage and testimony at the scene contradicts the official story... It must be a coincidence....

    The simulation was sponsored by the National Science Foundation (NSF), whose directors were appointed by the President in 2005. The NSF is a partner in Purdue's Homeland Security Ins ute, which brings millions of federal dollars to Purdue....

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    So they are all in on the cover up.

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    This picture is huge, but it shows 50+ floors worth of core segments still standing after the north tower collapse as well as debris on top of the 47 floor building 7.

    http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8...00x16009as.jpg

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    Here's a good picture of the south tower initially falling over like a tree, just like Dan said it had to.


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    I better stop posting before he reminds me I have not read the 9/11 Commission Report.
    Reading that book is a waste of Time I rather read a book full of ChumDumper's posts in the politics forum.

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    I should win troll of the week for causing Mouse, the orignial troll, to have a meltdown.

    How can mouse have a meltdown w/o saying ing etc....?

    words you use on a hourly basis.

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    And last (for now) but not least, two video stills showing tremendous damage to the south side of 7 WTC caused by the collapse of the north tower:





    Here's the video from which the first still was taken:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=_3uUQt8bu6k

    and the second:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...16413&hl=en-CA

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