Spurs Waive Two

[yavozerb]

All of this over someone who may not even play during the season if signed..

[Kori Ellis]

It is hard to tell how good he is. However, he has some solid skills. Ball-handling, etc. He was able to get after rebounds once the coaches asked for it, and he's shown pretty solid leadership abilities. For a small contract (say, Williams'), it's hardly a bad deal to try him out for a year. I'd think his combination of fair talent and truly busting his ass could pay dividends. Afterall, Vaughn was never a great NBA player, but was solid.

And even if it was the GSW, racking up a near triple double in a preseason game is eye-opening.

Yes, I agree. He might actually become a very good role player eventually - he's young. I was just noting that we probably wouldn't care so much about him if Beno didn't suck.

[Mr. Body]

Yes, I agree. He might actually become a very good role player eventually - he's young. I was just noting that we probably wouldn't care so much about him if Beno didn't suck.

Oh, absolutely. This is fueled at least as much by Beno-hate as Washington-love. It's a crime against humanity that a no-talent ass-clown like Beno Udrih makes money for doing -all while the rest of us bang away at our crap jobs.

[timvp]

All of this over someone who may not even play during the season if signed..

I don't think Washington would play much unless there were an injury. He'd spend most of his time in Austin. When not in Austin, he'd be IR'ed.

That said, he'd be a nice prospect to send along with Mahinmi to Austin to see if he develops.

[T Park]

He might actually become a very good role player eventually - he's young

I think thats all we've ever asked from beno, or from the backup point.

We don't want the next Stockton, just someone who isn't a gigantic up when he comes in

[T Park]

That said, he'd be a nice prospect to send along with Mahinmi to Austin to see if he develops.

Doing that, if you bring them both up to the big team next year, it never hurts to have that chemistry together, coming off the bench.

[Mr. Body]

I don't think Washington would play much unless there were an injury. He'd spend most of his time in Austin. When not in Austin, he'd be IR'ed.

That said, he'd be a nice prospect to send along with Mahinmi to Austin to see if he develops.

And what some are missing is that we NEED a young PG prospect. Next year = no Beno and perhaps no Vaughn.

No non-Parker PGs. It's actually the position of greatest need at the moment.

[yavozerb]

Hey, try banging away with fractured finger..Kori, where's my trophy?

[coopdogg3]

Oh, absolutely. This is fueled at least as much by Beno-hate as Washington-love. It's a crime against humanity that a no-talent ass-clown like Beno Udrih makes money for doing -all while the rest of us bang away at our crap jobs.

What pisses me off the most about Beno, is that I think he does have talent. The man has some skills. But he just has no heart or desire. Even though he's on a championship contender and paid millions. That pisses me off the most. If that doesn't motivate you, then what will?

[timvp]

Another aspect to consider regarding Beno is this year he's likely to spend a good portion on the IR even when he's healthy. Beno has been non-disruptive over the years when he got DNP-CD's ... but he has never been healthy and placed on the inactive list. Seeing how overinflated his ego is, I'm not sure Beno could handle being a healthy scratch.

All the more reason to waive goodbye . . .

[yavozerb]

OK, lets say if washington did evolve into a decent NBA pg..How long do you people think he would stay backing up TP and how much do yall think the spurs would offer a back-up player?

[coopdogg3]

And what some are missing is that we NEED a young PG prospect. Next year = no Beno and perhaps no Vaughn.

No non-Parker PGs. It's actually the position of greatest need at the moment.

Vaughn signed a two-year deal this summer. Are you afraid of injury? Or that Vaughn might retire?

[T Park]

What pisses me off the most about Beno, is that I think he does have talent. The man has some skills. But he just has no heart or desire. Even though he's on a championship contender and paid millions. That pisses me off the most. If that doesn't motivate you, then what will?

It wouldbe awesome if one of the skanks he bangs would end up being a good chick and would kick his ass in gear.

[Darkwaters]

If Washington never rises to anything better than 3rd string then it would still be a decent investment. Hes young and COULD grow. Hes better than Beno. And even if he never breaks out, hes dirt cheap. Frankly, 500k for a 3rd string PG is about as cheap as you'll find. But 500k for a backup is amazing. It's worth the gamble. I would offer a two year deal with the second year as a team option.

[MoSpur]

By when do the Spurs have to make the final cut?

[T Park]

OK, lets say if washington did evolve into a decent NBA pg..How long do you people think he would stay backing up TP and how much do yall think the spurs would offer a back-up player?

All depends on if he has a "Bruce Bowen at ude, or a Speedy Claxton at ude"

Thinks he can start and get paid more? Adios.

Likes winning, likes being apart of a team, wants to live comfortably but not make 90 mill a year, he will stay.


All depends on what kind of guy he is, if or when he becomes a very productive player due to the Spurs development.

[Mr. Body]

Vaughn signed a two-year deal this summer. Are you afraid of injury? Or that Vaughn might retire?

He'll be on the team next year, then sucked onto a coaching bench somewhere, but an inexpensive long-term solution is in order. With a hurt Vaughn now, why wait?

[T Park]

If Washington never rises to anything better than 3rd string then it would still be a decent investment. Hes young and COULD grow. Hes better than Beno. And even if he never breaks out, hes dirt cheap. Frankly, 500k for a 3rd string PG is about as cheap as you'll find. But 500k for a backup is amazing. It's worth the gamble. I would offer a two year deal with the second year as a team option

Agreed. Give him William's contract.

[Darkwaters]

I know I'm getting selfish now, but I'd like to see Williams waived AND Beno traded. Then we can sign Washington and Sanikidze and redraft Williams in Austin. Imagine having a Toros team with Ian Mahinmi, Darius Washington, Marcus Williams and Viktor Sanikidze...yikes.

[T Park]

then sucked onto a coaching bench somewhere

If the Spurs win it again, it wouldn't shock me to see Don Newman get a head assistant position.

Just slide England into it, and put Vaughn behind the bench to learn.

[T Park]

I know I'm getting selfish now, but I'd like to see Williams waived AND Beno traded. Then we can sign Washington and Sanikidze and redraft Williams in Austin. Imagine having a Toros team with Ian Mahinmi, Darius Washington, Marcus Williams and Viktor Sanikidze...yikes.

If that happened, I think I would buy season tickets to the Toros.

[Mr. Body]

I know I'm getting selfish now, but I'd like to see Williams waived AND Beno traded. Then we can sign Washington and Sanikidze and redraft Williams in Austin. Imagine having a Toros team with Ian Mahinmi, Darius Washington, Marcus Williams and Viktor Sanikidze...yikes.

All for it. At this piont DW on the team makes me happy, whether it's Williams or Beno gone. But I definitely want Beno gone, I don't care if there's only 2 PGs on the squad. Beno's offensive.

[yavozerb]

Lets get back to the skanks who are doing Beno!!

[timvp]

OK, lets say if washington did evolve into a decent NBA pg..How long do you people think he would stay backing up TP and how much do yall think the spurs would offer a back-up player?

The Spurs usually give training camp invitees a two-year contract where the second year is a team option. The Spurs wouldn't have to worry about paying Washington until two years down the line ... and even then, he'd be a restricted free agent.

[yavozerb]

Yes, I finally feel like a champion!!!Thanks Kori...Carry on please.