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WTC 7 wasn't deformed.
This statement is irrefutable--This gouge has nothing to do with a building falling in a controlled demolition
--since there was no controlled demolition.
WTC 7 wasn't deformed.
Why are there several videos of a controlled demolition?
Explain how a gigantic steel building of interlocked steel beams, 47 stories tall, can fall straight down in 6.5 seconds, from an office fire and a gouge in the corner
Good to know you don't read quotes that are spoon fed to you. Once more, with feeling:
Deputy Chief Peter Hayden: Yeah. There was enough there and we were marking off. There were a lot of damaged apparatus there that were covered. We tried to get searches in those areas. By now, this is going on into the afternoon, and we were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.
Firehouse: Was there heavy fire in there right away?
Hayden: No, not right away, and that’s probably why it stood for so long because it took a while for that fire to develop. It was a heavy body of fire in there and then we didn’t make any attempt to fight it. That was just one of those wars we were just going to lose. We were concerned about the collapse of a 47-story building there. We were worried about additional collapse there of what was remaining standing of the towers and the Marriott, so we started pulling the people back after a couple of hours of surface removal and searches along the surface of the debris. We started to pull guys back because we were concerned for their safety.
Firehouse: Chief Nigro said they made a collapse zone and wanted everybody away from number 7— did you have to get all of those people out?
Hayden: Yeah, we had to pull everybody back. It was very difficult. We had to be very forceful in getting the guys out. They didn’t want to come out. There were guys going into areas that I wasn’t even really comfortable with, because of the possibility of secondary collapses. We didn’t know how stable any of this area was. We pulled everybody back probably by 3 or 3:30 in the afternoon. We said, this building is going to come down, get back. It came down about 5 o’clock or so, but we had everybody backed away by then.
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/9...gz/hayden.html
Was there any part of that you didn't understand?
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%...se%20Final.pdf
Okay, go to slide 20 and tell me the NIST doesn't say there was extensive damage to the South face of WTC7. And, when you compare it to the represented damage to the Southwest corner, maybe you can understand why WTC7 failed and collapsed.
I encourage you to look at the entire presentation but, I'd like your opinion on slide 20, if you don't mind.
How soon they forget!
There were videos of the collapse of WTC 7.
There were more gouges as I have already shown. No matter how you try to ignore them, they exist.Explain how a gigantic steel building of interlocked steel beams, 47 stories tall, can fall straight down in 6.5 seconds, from an office fire and a gouge in the corner
The building didn't fall straight down.
Once a critical truss was compromised by fire -- which you have been shown was much larger than you tried to lie about -- catastrophic failure was inevitable.
If they were all brought down by controlled demolition, wouldn't it have ben easier just to make the north tower hit WTC 7 more squarely and demolish it at the same time like they apparently wanted to do with the Marriott and the Greek Orthodox Church?
, that's been years ago. How's Duel doin'?How soon they forget!
Grow a pair and ask him
http://p078.ezboard.com/Main-Undergr...ndergroundfrm7
Is he still slummin' over there? I dropped in on him once but, I think his alzheimer's prevented him from recognizing me. I'll try again...
Who deformded WTC 7 and why did they do it? And how come no one noticed them doing it? How did they benifit from deforming WTC 7?
And why is this information not in the NISt report?
God, that's a butt ugly forum and it's asking me to apply for membership. Think that -up Chris Duel would grant me membership, again?
The building that fell on it and the resulting fires did it. They didn't have and didn't need a reason.Lots of people noticed the building falling on it and the fires burning inside it.And how come no one noticed them doing it?Buildings and fires are not people, so talk of benefits are specious at best. But to humor you, the building that fell on WTC 7 received no benefit as it was in the process of being destroyed itself. The fire benefited by having lot of fuel provided to it.How did they benifit from deforming WTC 7?
I have yet to see the final report, and neither have you.And why is this information not in the NISt report?
Are you calling all these firemen liars?
Co-conspirators?
It is.
Main columns 79, 80, and 81 were compromised by the debris from WTC1 taking out a huge chunk of the South face of WTC7. The East end of the building became deformed and the East penthouse started sagging.
Look at all 42 slides from that NIST presentation I just linked. It explains it all.
Main support columns 79, 80, and 81 failed near floor 7 because of some ConEd cage that was constructed in the first 7 floors. When they failed, the East penthouse -- a late addition to the building -- supported by those columns disappeared through the roof of WTC7. The collapse then transferred rapidly out from those three columns and the whole building came down.
Read for yourself.
Figure L-23c in this NIST report,
http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_.../appendixl.pdf
says it is only "possible" damage. It's the same diagram.
So what you quote has no credibility.
It has more credibility than your insane conspiracies.
They walk you through the collapse in a manner that supports the evidence they have and they clearly state there was no evidence of a controlled demolition, explosion, or missile strike.
Like your controlled demo statements have any credibility whatsoever.
Do you know why there is no visual record of WTC7 along Vestal Street (the South Face of WTC7)?
Loose Change Final Cut has visual evidence that the south face of WTC 7 only had minor damage, at best, and the gaping hole you like to tout, doesn't exist. It will be released November 11.
Even the damage you like to imagine does not even begin to explain why the east Penthouse fell, or WTC 7 fell in 6.6 seconds.
You're probably a Piston's fan, so you have no credibility.
[quote]Even the damage you like to imagine does not even begin to explain why the east Penthouse fell[quote]That and the fires do.There is no video of WTC 7 actually reaching ground level, so why are you making this number up?or WTC 7 fell in 6.6 seconds.
I'm still waiting for your explanation why the conspirators chose to deform the building and give everyone a chance to clear out the area first.
Wow, you really don't read.
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[quote]Even the damage you like to imagine does not even begin to explain why the east Penthouse fellDylan has video of the south face of WTC 7. That doesn't mean he's an engineer.That and the fires do.There is no video of WTC 7 actually reaching ground level, so why are you making this number up?
I'm still waiting for your explanation why the conspirators chose to deform the building and give everyone a chance to clear out the area first.
You can extrapolate the fall of WTC 7, which goes at free fall speed down to the 20th floor.
There is also seismic data.
They not only cleared out the area, they did a 10-9-8-7 etc, countdown right before collapse.
So do I. Did you bother to look at them?Dylan has video of the south face of WTC 7.
Yeah, this is like the free fall argument that folks like you try to pass off for the twin towers, only debris is clearly falling ahead of the towers. Simple BS.You can extrapolate the fall of WTC 7, which goes at free fall speed down to the 20th floor.
So you are saying the firemen conspired to bring down 7 WTC. That makes perfect sense.They not only cleared out the area, they did a 10-9-8-7 etc, countdown right before collapse.
This is a lie.
Prove it that the WTC towers were "designed" to withstand a jet impact.
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