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... Or he could land wrong and be out the rest of the season. I love seeing Grant do well, but he is damaged goods.
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the guy is balling. 15 points per game, 4 boards, 3 assists. 47% shooting.
he could be the x-factor in suns taking that step and winning the le.
... Or he could land wrong and be out the rest of the season. I love seeing Grant do well, but he is damaged goods.
Lets see what his numbers are come playoff time, or if he will even be playing.
^Excellent example of premature ejaculation. I don't think anybody thought Grant wasn't capable of putting up the above numbers through 12 games, particularly because he's in Phoenix. That system combined with D'Antoni playing him 35-40 minutes a night is going to give him decent stats. Most of us are predicting he won't make it through the season due to that minutes stat.
As a Spurs fan, wake me when he learns to play defense and I might be concerned about him in the playoffs. Oh wait, he'd get benched for playing defense. Nevermind.
...and he is still a non-factor on defense like the rest of the Suns. I'll be surprised if he makes it through the season without some kind of injury.
If they get 45 games out of this guy I would consider it a huge success. Its a long season and if he helps them win 5 or 6 games that could be the difference. Help is help and as of now he's contributing, even if he gets injured and can't finish the season that doesn't mean he didn't make a difference. Not only is he not the focus of the team but I highly doubt they expected him to play anywhere above 70 games for the season.
Grant Hill is averaging more minutes than anyone on the Spurs. If his body holds up playing this many minutes, the Suns' trainers should win the Nobel Prize for medicine.
Either that or Hill was faking it all those years with the Magic and was just taking extended vacations to cash his check . . .
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That's just sad. Phoenix what are you doing??? At least give him around 5mins off.
If you take Jim Jackson's 2004-05 stats with the Suns, per 40 minutes, he scored 14 points on 44% shooting, with 6 rebounds and 4 assists.
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We'll see how he does against Defense.
hahahahah. wait till playoff time dumbass. the loss of kurt thomas is much worse than any benefit grant over the hill can provide.
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Suns are 11-2. Leading the league in scoring again, and playing well enough to jack-stomp lesser opponents on a nightly basis. We'll see how good they are when they play the Mavs and Spurs. Until then, all stats are meaningless. Let's all re-visit this subject after December 17th. Personally, I expect the Suns to come out with venom/anger/hatred/resentment/passion when they play the Spurs again for the first time. I expect the Spurs will perhaps get blown out in that game, and that the Suns will attempt to run up the score on them.
Just my prediction. Who knows what happens in the playoffs?
Actually, it's Grant Hill's defense that has impressed the Suns the most.
And I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't miss a game all year (pre-season, regular season, and playoffs).
I agree. I don't know what all these people are talking about when the dog Grant Hill's defense. He's always been known as a well-rounded player who could play good defense as well as score and make plays. I don't understand why he's suddenly considered a defensive liability by Spurs fans just because he's on the Suns roster now. Kinda silly and biased. Spurs fans, "know thy enemy" rather than just talking smack about them. That is all ... nothing follows.
Anyone who goes to the suns often gets weaker on defense, their system is not based on defense. Anyone who comes to the spure usually looks like a better defender than at any other point in time during their carreer. it is not crazy to think he is a defensive liabilty with hill being slower than he used to be, playing heavy minutes, and playing on a offensive(not defensive) minded team.
but the Suns still can't play D for , that's all that matters
they will always score, but and he's just taking shots away from other players on that team
I think the issues with most fans regarding Hill and Skinner was they figured D'Antoni would run Hill into the ground and bury Skinner on the bench. So far, 13 games in, I haven't seen anything to disagree with that stance. Hill has played great, but needs to play significantly fewer minutes early in this season, and Skinner has played great, but needs to play significantly more minutes throughout the season.
Unfortunately, I don't see D'Antoni giving in to reason.
Okay. It's not "crazy" to think it, but it's wrong nonetheless. Watch the games.
I don't know if you can say that defensive impact has been there, but Hill has certainly put forth an all-out defensive effort in the past 13 games. Whether it maintains through 100 games is debateable, but as of now, I would say Hill has been a pleasant surprize on the defensive end.
That was kinda my point. I didn't say Hill has been a defensive stalwart, but I'm bemused by those who want to say he's a liability simply because he's on the Suns roster now. He's never been considered a bad defender before, but suddenly just because he's on the Suns, he's a putrid defender? Really? I say that line of reasoning (not yours) is just blatant homerism on the part of Spurs & Mavs fans.
No doubt. He's played hard on each end of the court, for 40 minutes a game. I doubt it can last without an eventual wearing down, but if his minutes can be scaled back to 32ish a night, then I think, barring injury, he should be better capable to sustain his energy and effort throughout the season(s).
He's been a great addition. Whether he remains such was the exception I believe most took to his signing. D'Antoni has never been one to avoid heavy minutes for his best players for fear of wear and tear or injury. In fact, he practically triple-god-dares the basketball gods to call down the thunder on his band of fun-n-gunners.
I'd say his dares haven't benefitted the Suns as of yet.
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