Tony Parker is the Best Player in the NBA

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Except the thread starter (see le).

And you must have missed the post where I said that Bowen is a lockdown defender.

You can be a great defender without getting steals, blocks, charges, rebounds etc. if youre capable of shutting your man down.

Parker does neither. Ask Beno Udrih. Or Devin Harris. Or Steve Nash. Or Deron Williams. Or Chris Paul......

Game over. I win.

Other posters here proved you that Parker did a solid job on defense during the last playoffs. You didn't win a ... not even a championship

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Who said the Suns played great defense?

Aren't the Spurs suppose to be the great defensive team? Are they suppose to be far and away a better defensive team than the Suns?

Where was Parker's lockdown defense last night? Or are you guys gonna blame that one on Bowen too?

Beno Udrih? Are you kidding me?

Who was Nash assignement against GSW?

[da_suns_fan__]

Who was Nash assignement against GSW?

Who said Nash was a great defender?

Not me.

Of course, why admit that Parker can't play defense when you can attempt to change the subject.

[anakha]

Who said the Suns played great defense?

Aren't the Spurs suppose to be the great defensive team? Are they suppose to be far and away a better defensive team than the Suns?

Where was Parker's lockdown defense last night? Or are you guys gonna blame that one on Bowen too?

Beno Udrih? Are you kidding me?

Again, at d_s_f's desperate attempt to steer the conversation away from the fact that he wants to keep harping on one player's defense and ignore his entire team practically giving up a half's worth of points in one quarter.

Glass houses and stones, d_s_f.

[anakha]

Who said Nash was a great defender?

Not me.

Of course, why admit that Parker can't play defense when you can attempt to change the subject.

Since you want to focus on that argument...

Link to ANYWHERE in this thread calling Parker a great defender?

The very first reference to Parker's defense in this thread called it 'solid'. You're the one who blew it out of proportion by assuming he was considered a great defender.

And before you start pointing at the stats people showed, those were in response to you insisting he was a bad defender. You really like being proven wrong, don't you?

[da_suns_fan__]

Since you want to focus on that argument...

Link to ANYWHERE in this thread calling Parker a great defender?

The very first reference to Parker's defense in this thread called it 'solid'. You're the one who blew it out of proportion by assuming he was considered a great defender.

This thread. Post 66.

CryHavoc: He already plays better defense than Nash ever has.

And I said "Oh really?"


Thanks to Tony Parker and Beno Udrih, you fools have been OWNED!

[da_suns_fan__]

This thread, post 78.

[anakha]

This thread. Post 66.

CryHavoc: He already plays better defense than Nash ever has.

And I said "Oh really?"


Thanks to Tony Parker and Beno Udrih, you fools have been OWNED!

Better defense than Nash = 'great defender' in your book?

[da_suns_fan__]

This thread, post 95 (by freeze).

[da_suns_fan__]

This thread, post 73 (by bat boy):

The most important defensive skill is rotating properly on the pick and roll and Parker is part of the league's best defensive scheme against it.

[anakha]

This thread, post 78.

Tony Parker>Kevin Johnson

= 'great defender'?

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Who said Nash was a great defender?

Not me.

Of course, why admit that Parker can't play defense when you can attempt to change the subject.

You said Parker is not an elite PG because he is not a good defender.
I just wonder if Nash is an elite PG

I never argued Parker is a great defender so I don't understand you remark about my attempt to change the subject. If you want my opinion, Parker is an average defender who can play good defense when he is focused (when it matters during the playoff). Sometime, in meaningless games he doesn't play defense. I don't think it is a big issue since we will never meet Sacramento in the playoffs.

[da_suns_fan__]

This thread, post 97 (Dex):


Apparently 'shutting down your man' has nothing to do with defense. It's all about the boxscore, baby. (Implies Parker shuts his man down).

[da_suns_fan__]

This thread, post 90 (Romain.star):

And yes, i think Parker can shut down his man too.
For a few seasons now, he has dramatically improved his defense.
He is not a beast and will never make the all defensive team but he's doing his job more than correctly

[anakha]

This thread, post 95 (by freeze).

Yes he does :
Denver series last playoff, Parker was on Iverson :
=> Iverson down from 45.4% FG's during regular season with Denver to 36.8%
=> down from 7.2 assist to 5.8
=> down from 9.1 FT's attempt to 6.2
=> down from 2.5 stl to 1.4

Suns series, Parker was on Barbosa (most of the time) :
=> Barbosa down from 47.6% FG's to 35.5%
=> Barbosa down from 18.1 ppg to 11.3
=> Barbosa down from 4 apg to 2.5
=> Barbosa up from 1.8 TO to 2.33

Gameplan vs Utah and Cleveland haven't assigned a particular player to
Parker so I can't argue more, but in everyway, fact is that his defense is
very underrated, and that you've been...

This post was made in reponse to you asserting Parker was a bad defender:

Very true, but Bowen is more concerened with simply shutting down his individual man.

Does Parker shut down his man?

Ask Devin Harris. Or any other point guard in the league, for that matter.

So, proving your ass wrong about Parker being a bad defender = 'great defender'?

[mathbzh]

This thread. Post 66.

CryHavoc: He already plays better defense than Nash ever has.

And I said "Oh really?"


Thanks to Tony Parker and Beno Udrih, you fools have been OWNED!

Playing better defense than Nash doesn't exactly means be a great defender.

[mathbzh]

This thread, post 90 (Romain.star):

And yes, i think Parker can shut down his man too.
For a few seasons now, he has dramatically improved his defense.
He is not a beast and will never make the all defensive team but he's doing his job more than correctly

Doing your job more than correctly is being great?

[da_suns_fan__]

Maybe Kori should change the thread le to "How to own Anakha".

btw - I never said Parker wasn't elite becuase he couldn't defend.

I said he wasn't elite because he can't defend, shoot free throws, shoot jumpshots, create for others, is turnover prone etc.

That was easy. Next thread.

[anakha]

This thread, post 73 (by bat boy):

The most important defensive skill is rotating properly on the pick and roll and Parker is part of the league's best defensive scheme against it.

This post is saying that the Spurs defend against the pick and roll probably better than any other team, and that Parker plays a part in it.

Still not seing anybody saying explicitly that Parker 'great defender' post here...

[anakha]

This thread, post 97 (Dex):


Apparently 'shutting down your man' has nothing to do with defense. It's all about the boxscore, baby. (Implies Parker shuts his man down).

So now you're going by 'implications'?

Still waiting for that explicit 'Parker is a great defender' post...

[anakha]

This thread, post 90 (Romain.star):

And yes, i think Parker can shut down his man too.
For a few seasons now, he has dramatically improved his defense.
He is not a beast and will never make the all defensive team but he's doing his job more than correctly

THAT makes you believe Parker is a 'great defender'!?

Reading Comprehension owns you.

[da_suns_fan__]

THAT makes you believe Parker is a 'great defender'!?

Reading Comprehension owns you.

No bag...the first line.

"And yes, i think Parker can shut down his man too."

Owned again.

Just quit man. Im starting to feel embarrassed for you.

[anakha]

Maybe Kori should change the thread le to "How to own Anakha".

btw - I never said Parker wasn't elite becuase he couldn't defend.

I said he wasn't elite because he 1) can't defend, shoot free throws, 2) shoot jumpshots, create for others, is 3) turnover prone etc.

1) Already proven wrong - several times over.

2) Can't shoot jumpshots? You must be watching the 2004-05 Parker.

3) Turnover prone? When Nash almost had a triple-double against the Warriors with 8 turnovers?

That was easy. Next thread.

d_s_f-speak for "I'll run away like a and hide before I get my ass owned yet again".

[anakha]

No bag...the first line.

Owned again.

Just quit man. Im starting to feel embarrassed for you.

So Selective Reading owns you then.

[da_suns_fan__]

Anakha.....you lost.

Don't pout. Just accept it. There will be other threads.