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    Yeah those guys never fouled out when they let big men camp out in the lane and actually called fouls on people coming into the lane. Back then, the centers didn't get called for anything. The rules favored the big men.

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    "Getting blown by is inexcusable"

    .... esp a pasty Euro-white guy blowing past prototypical punk-ass street balla!

    Where yo gonna get yo respek, Rafah?

    I love Yao getting ejected. A mean, intense, doan-nobody- -wid-me Yao is a much better Yao. Enough of this skillz-y, polite, socialized, deferring Asian crap. I wanna see a sociopathic, fire-blowing Chinese dragon! Yao is even learning to whine like a balla.

    The same evolution will make, is making?, Dwight Howard and Bynum much better, much scarier players. Height and talent alone aren't enough. Gotta have that fire in the belly.

    And the NBA needs a new crop of bad-ass, game-changing big men. They are the heart of basketball. A game of dime-a-dozen small ballas sucks.

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    yao's got to do so damage in the playoffs before he's worthy of being labeled a superstar. until then he's only an all-star, like his buddy tmac
    Yao Ming got 25PPG and 10RPG in the post season last year. Is that not enough damage? Sure, Boozer torched him in that series, but who didnt get torched by Boozer?

    Same thing goes for McGrady. 25PPG, 6RPG, 7APG. Is that not enough damage?

    Its always the role players that let our superstars down. Rockets set the new record for the fewest players scored in a playoff game. (Only 4 players scored in game 5 vs Utah).

    Again whottt, if Yao Ming average a double-double in the post-season is not a superstar in your mind. I dont know who is.

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    yes he had a great series last year, but he did his damage in the first round only...ur telling me that if he did only that for the next ten years and retired he'd be called or thought of as a superstar?...that's ridiculous...because when it's all said and done ur status as an elite nba player will depend upon ur success in the playoffs no ifs ands or buts...right now he hasn't done that and until he does, in my book, he's agreat player in this league and an all star but nothing more and nothing less.

    now, if you are taking into consideration his world-wide popularity as a criterion for being names a superstar it's a different story...

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    yes he had a great series last year, but he did his damage in the first round only...ur telling me that if he did only that for the next ten years and retired he'd be called or thought of as a superstar?...that's ridiculous...because when it's all said and done ur status as an elite nba player will depend upon ur success in the playoffs no ifs ands or buts...right now he hasn't done that and until he does, in my book, he's agreat player in this league and an all star but nothing more and nothing less.

    now, if you are taking into consideration his world-wide popularity as a criterion for being names a superstar it's a different story...
    what about karl malone he has no rings but alot of pts

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    o, and if ur going to up yao to superstar status, might as well call carlos boozer a superstar...Jermain o'neal would have been a superstar when he was averaging about yao's numbers...it takes more than numbers

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    what about karl malone he has no rings but alot of pts
    dude. karl malone not only had to go through mj in order to get a ring, he did have success in the playoffs. he didn't get a ring but that doesn't mean he didn't have success, not in my book anyway.

  8. #33
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    supers om is gauged my popularity
    yao is a superstar

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    Fair enough...

    So it's agreed then?

    Yao isn't a superstar, and you're an idiot. Done deal.


    I promise you, there is not a single person in this entire world that knows even the slightest bit about basketball that thinks Yao is better than Tim Duncan. If your intent was to prove you don't know a damn thing about basketball(beyond the obvious hint your team provides), you've succeeded.
    By the looks of their head to head matchups, it seems that maybe times are changing. Duncan is older and maybe losing a step, while Yao is only getting better. I've never seen Tim Duncan look scared and completely taken out of his game like he did against Yao in that first Spurs Rockets matchup. Yao was even taking a page out of Tim's book by drawing double teams and passing out of the post beautifully, to wide open teammates.

    Yao 28pts 12-24 shooting 13 rebounds 6 assists

    Duncan 14 points 5-15 shooting 9 rebounds 1 assist

    And yes, Duncan did outplay Yao in their second meeting, but how hard is it to focus on one guy when Tmac is out and your best second option is Shane Battier?

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    tim duncan doesnt have to prove. the 4th game of the season is the most re ed barometer one can use. especially if it's measuring a head to head matchup.

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    For me, the difference between all-star and superstar is that superstar commands double-team even if he is not hot at shooting because u would fear he will turn it on at any moment.
    Yao, Duncan, Dirk last season, Kobe are superstars
    J Oneal and Gasol are not
    obviously post season success counts too, but i think 7 games are good enough to show that both yao and tmac can do damage in the playoffs. Especially because they put up that kind of number wth 3 scrub starters

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    He is the 2nd Best center right now who draws more double-team than any other big man in the league.
    Who's the first?

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    they should just go ahead and make it a rule you can't be 7'6" and from china.

    Sounds to me like this guy wants to ban tall............aaasiaaaannnns

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    Who's the first?
    As much as i love Yao i have to admit Dwight Howard is playing better now.

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    There are only a few great centers right now. Yao is one of them. If you are the second best center in the NBA (probably behind Howard), that is saying something. If you want to talk about a Hall of Fame type player, some significant playoff success is probably needed in the future.

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    As much as i love Yao i have to admit Dwight Howard is playing better now.
    Oh yeah, darn, I completely forgot about him. :

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    Beno got Yao ejected. That is awesome!

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    can someone post a video?

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    For me, the difference between all-star and superstar is that superstar commands double-team even if he is not hot at shooting because u would fear he will turn it on at any moment.
    Yao, Duncan, Dirk last season, Kobe are superstars
    J Oneal and Gasol are not
    obviously post season success counts too, but i think 7 games are good enough to show that both yao and tmac can do damage in the playoffs. Especially because they put up that kind of number wth 3 scrub starters
    Al Jefferson is a superstar?

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    By the looks of their head to head matchups, it seems that maybe times are changing. Duncan is older and maybe losing a step, while Yao is only getting better. I've never seen Tim Duncan look scared and completely taken out of his game like he did against Yao in that first Spurs Rockets matchup. Yao was even taking a page out of Tim's book by drawing double teams and passing out of the post beautifully, to wide open teammates.

    Yao 28pts 12-24 shooting 13 rebounds 6 assists

    Duncan 14 points 5-15 shooting 9 rebounds 1 assist

    And yes, Duncan did outplay Yao in their second meeting, but how hard is it to focus on one guy when Tmac is out and your best second option is Shane Battier?
    First you basing the comparison on stats, then you are basing things off stats off ONE game?
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=271113024
    Turiaf and Bynum > Duncan according to you

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    First you basing the comparison on stats, then you are basing things off stats off ONE game?
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=271113024
    Turiaf and Bynum > Duncan according to you
    Not basing anything off one game, just using that head to head matchup as an example

    Duncan's and Yao's play for this entire season so far are what really tell the story

  22. #47
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    Duncan has a higher PER than Yao... so that should tell you the raw stats can be a little mis leading... and thats basically what your basing your argument on.

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    Yao's a superstar in this talent diluted league as of today, but indeed he ain't no legend up to this point.

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