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    If Duncan wasn't out, the other guys would have a case.

    But AI lost the game he scored 51.

    I would bet Jim's house and IRA that Manu wins it.

    I lost those a long time ago.


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    For ASG, 12 players:

    Three SG, and it should be and will be Manu, Kobe, and Tmac.

    Two C, and it should be and will be Yao and Stoudemire.

    Two PF, and it should be and will be Duncan and Dirk.

    Two SF, and it should be and will be Melo and

    Three PG, it should be and will be Nash , Iverson, and another one of (Davis, Paul, Williams, and Parker).

    Of course, it could be only one SF, and move Tmac to play SF and Iverson to play SG sometimes. Then, there will be four PG. I think Parker is last season's final MVP and thus should have one spot.

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    For ASG, 12 players:

    Three SG, and it should be and will be Manu, Kobe, and Tmac.

    Two C, and it should be and will be Yao and Stoudemire.

    Two PF, and it should be and will be Duncan and Dirk.

    Two SF, and it should be and will be Melo and

    Three PG, it should be and will be Nash , Iverson, and another one of (Davis, Paul, Williams, and Parker).

    Of course, it could be only one SF, and move Tmac to play SF and Iverson to play SG sometimes. Then, there will be four PG. I think Parker is last season's final MVP and thus should have one spot.

    There's no gurantee the roster will be split up the way you say...the coaches add the back ups after the voting is pretty much decided and there are no set position quotas for the backups.

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    Suns 93 : 100 Timberwolves, and Amare 16pts and 5rbs.

    Maybe Amare will score 50 tonight.

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    Actually, when coaches vote, they always vote according to positions.

    There's no gurantee the roster will be split up the way you say...the coaches add the back ups after the voting is pretty much decided and there are no set position quotas for the backups.

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    Another possibility is 3 PF (Duncan, Dirk, and Boozer) and 1SF (Melo)!

    For ASG, 12 players:

    Three SG, and it should be and will be Manu, Kobe, and Tmac.

    Two C, and it should be and will be Yao and Stoudemire.

    Two PF, and it should be and will be Duncan and Dirk.

    Two SF, and it should be and will be Melo and

    Three PG, it should be and will be Nash , Iverson, and another one of (Davis, Paul, Williams, and Parker).

    Of course, it could be only one SF, and move Tmac to play SF and Iverson to play SG sometimes. Then, there will be four PG. I think Parker is last season's final MVP and thus should have one spot.

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    vbookie please

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    Because of injury, there might be more than 12 players to be selected.

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    Brandon Roy was selected the Western Conference Player of the Week.

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    Brandon Roy was selected the Western Conference Player of the Week.
    Lame

    Roy helped the Blazers beat Memphis, Miami and Milwaukee.

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    I guess it is because Spurs only played two games last week.

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    I think Manu will be voted for Player of the Month.

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    I think Manu will be voted for Player of the Month.

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    Too bad.

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    player of the week: meaningless award
    back to back championships:Priceless

    I think Manu is more focus on the 2nd option tham a stupid individual weekly award.

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    Actually, when coaches vote, they always vote according to positions.

    I've seen them do it differently...in situations where they hade extreme depth at certain positions in a given year. I've seen them take extra guards or extra forwards before.

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    For the past few years, the coaches vote on 1 center, 2 forwards, and 2 guards as well as 2 wild cards. Here's a Hollinger piece (take it for what it's worth) about the perceived injustices in the All-Star selection process last year:

    Blame the system.

    It's easy to think that the Western Conference coaches are fools for taking three guards on the All-Star team when the conference is dominated by forwards. It gets even easier when one realizes the league's leading scorer was among the omissions.

    But the result of any vote is only as good as the system it uses, and in this case the All-Star voting process has a fairly obscure flaw that can lead to results like the ones we saw Thursday. The way it's set up, it's possible for multiple players at a position with weak compe ion to make the squad ahead of better players at a very strong position, even if that's a result that none of the coaches intended.

    Let me construct a model of the vote and walk you through it so you can see what I mean. The system requires the coaches to choose two guards, two forwards, a center and two "wild cards" from any position. The league then tallies up everybody's votes and announces the winners.

    We'll begin with the Western Conference guards. One of the choices was obvious: Steve Nash. Presumably he was on every ballot except Mike D'Antoni's (coaches can't vote for their own players). But at the other guard spot, suppose that the coaches were evenly split between Tony Parker and Allen Iverson as the second guard, and that no other candidate drew a vote. Additionally, suppose that D'Antoni would vote for both since he can't select Nash. In this example, it's possible that each would end up with eight votes from the 15 coaches.

    Now move on to the forwards. Again, there were two fairly obvious choices: Dirk Nowitzki and Carlos Boozer. Dirk was probably unanimous except for his own coach, and Boozer may have been, as well (the votes were cast before the extent of Boozer's knee injury was known).

    At center, Amare Stoudemire was also probably a near-unanimous choice (though it doesn't affect the discussion any if Marcus Camby got a few votes.)

    Here's where it gets tricky. The coaches can also select two wild cards at any position to fill out their roster. Presumably they all went for forwards, given the strength of the position in the West. But if they all went for different forwards, there's a real problem. Suppose that among the four primary candidates at forward -- Shawn Marion, Josh Howard and Elton Brand -- Marion pulled down 11 votes while the other three got seven apiece.

    In that case, when the league tallied up the votes, the final result would be:


    Nowitzki -- 14
    Nash -- 14
    Boozer -- 14
    Stoudemire -- 14
    Marion -- 11
    Parker -- 8
    Iverson -- 8
    Anthony -- 7
    Brand -- 7
    Howard -- 7


    So Parker and Iverson would make it ahead of the three forwards, even though no coach (except D'Antoni, who had to) put both players on their ballot. Which is a striking outcome, because it produces three guards on the team even if every coach wanted only two.

    And the more muddled the forward picture gets, the more likely this scenario is to happen. For instance, if Zach Randolph had pinched a few votes from the other three at the bottom, the margin between the two guards and the forward would be even greater. In fact, in extreme cases it's possible to end up with four guards and two forwards on the team even if the coaches wanted four forwards and two guards.

    We can't know whether this is what happened because the league doesn't announce the voting results, but it's the most logical explanation. And if it is the cause, this probably isn't the first time. For instance, the Eastern Conference had a few weird years at the start of the decade when two centers made it as reserves even though the league was dominated by guards -- this model shows why.

    Is there an easy way to fix it? Sure.

    Have the coaches vote for the five subs at each position first. Then have them vote for the two "wild cards" at any position from the players that are left. It would take a little longer and wouldn't produce a tidy little announcement of all seven players at once. But if that system were in place, the Western Conference would have four forwards and two guards on the squad like everybody intended, rather than an All-Star team nobody would have selected on his own.

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    I remeber last season there were 16 players were selected in WC team because of injury, and actually only a few guards were selected. Hopefully this season more guards will be selected.

    I've seen them do it differently...in situations where they hade extreme depth at certain positions in a given year. I've seen them take extra guards or extra forwards before.

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    Manu's has been amazing this week, but can a player win POW with only 2 games played ?
    NBA honors Roy, Smith

    December 10, 2007
    NEW YORK (TICKER) -- The Portland Trail Blazers have won their last three games, thanks in large part to guard Brandon Roy.

    As a result, Roy was named Western Conference Player of the Week on Monday.

    Atlanta Hawks forward Josh Smith earned the honor in the Eastern Conference.

    In Portland's three wins last week, Roy averaged 25.7 points, 7.3 rebounds and 3.7 assists.

    The reigning Rookie of the Year posted career highs of nine assists an eight defensive rebounds in the Trail Blazers' 117-113 victory over the Milwaukee Bucks on Sunday.

    Roy also tied a career high with 11 field goals made in victories over the Milwaukee Bucks and Memphis Grizzlies.

    Smith led the Magic to a 3-1 week, averaging 22.0 points, 6.3 rebounds, 3.3 assists and 3.3 blocks.

    On Thursday, Smith tied an NBA season high with seven seven blocks to go along with 28 points and seven rebounds in a 90-89 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves.

    Other nominees for the awards were Denver's Allen Iverson, Detroit's Chauncey Billups, New Orleans' Chris Paul and Washington's Caron Butler.

    Manu is not even in the nominees, 2 games played is definitively not enough to be picked as candidate.

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    Damn shame. I can't believe he wasn't even a nominee. Manu is way more deserving than Roy.

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    I remeber last season there were 16 players were selected in WC team because of injury, and actually only a few guards were selected. Hopefully this season more guards will be selected.

    Like FWDT just said...there are two Wild Card Spots...

    Plus, if some guy is injured late, I think the coach of the Team can select whoever he wants.

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    Like FWDT just said...there are two Wild Card Spots...

    Plus, if some guy is injured late, I think the coach of the Team can select whoever he wants.
    It's actually the Commissioner who selects the injury replacements. I think, in general, Stern tries to select positional replacements, but he has, in some years, used that power to add deserving players regardless of position. Last year, for instance, the Commish had two rounds of replacements to appoint for the West. The first round, he had to replace Iverson and Nash, both guards. He chose Ray Allen, a guard, and Mehmet Okur, a center. The second round, he had to replace Yao, a center, and Carlos Boozer, a forward. He chose Josh Howard and Carmelo Anthony, both forwards (arguably). In the end he replaced 2 guards, 1 forward, and 1 center with 1 guard, 2 forwards, and 1 center.

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    Roy? who the is Roy?! trailblazers didn't do enough to even make a ripple last week. ah well.

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    By the way Charles Barkley just said that you can go ahead and give Manu the 6MOY award now (even though Manu said he hates that award).

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    By the way Charles Barkley just said that you can go ahead and give Manu the 6MOY award now (even though Manu said he hates that award).
    How bout the MVP award manu....? u like that one? lo que tu quieres !!!!

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