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Can't start Manu when we have no one that can create his own offense on the bench.
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i dont mind manu coming off the bench,
but i think it wont hurt to try ....
It just seems like it's not really working anymore this season so I don't know.
It's fine the way it is. But he should come in earlier, because he needs to play with Tim more.
Just as long as Manu has a second option so the offense isn't predictable, I hate it when they call a play for Vaughn in order to keep the defenses honest on Manu (and it probably hurts that Barry's out again). Manu heading the second unit is usually a good strategy when there's at least one other player Manu can create for.
I think they need to start Udoka maybe, and have Finley play with Manu.
If Pop starts Manu, it will show how uncreative Pop is, scratching his head.
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Move Finley to the bench. I don't care if it's Manu or Udoka who starts in his place.
start Udoka.
Keep Manu on the bench.
Honestly whats killing the Spurs right now are the secondary scorers getting off in first quarters.
Stoyakovic
Kirilenko
guys of that ilk.
Finley is just in a bad funk and Udoka's fire, defense, rebounding and shot are Mario Elie esque.
Go ahead and start Udoka and bring Manu and Finley off the bench.
Udoka should start over Finley at this point. I would say Bowen but he still brings defense and we need that to start games most nights.
Problem then is that Ginobli is the only scoring option off the bench. Finley has struggled since the return of Ginobli and Barry. Now that Barry went out again Udoka has played well and Finley hasn't figured out how to adjust again.
Of course the problem with starting both Udoka and Bowen is that if one or both get into foul trouble we're screwed.
I agree. I think it's time to make some sort of a change, just to see if it might work...having the same line up right now is just not working...I just don't like that Pop rarely changes his strategies...Maybe finally after today he'll take notice.
I also think either Manu or Udoka need to start at this time. Finley needs to score, and right now he just isn't doing that...If Manu starts, then Udoka will have to have enough confidence to carry the bench with Finley...
Do you think Pop will finally make a change, Kori?
Kori, please sent this letter to Pop:
Dear Pop:
F*** you! I'm tired to see Manu coming off the bench to fix everything every night.! Do you hear me?!!! START Manu!
With love,
Cherry
Hopefully he makes a lineup change for our starting offense.
I don't like tuning into the game seeing our Spurs down in either the 1st, or the 2nd quarter against good teams. And then always relying on a 2nd half come back against bad teams, because the team gets off to a lackadaisical start against THEM too.
By this point, they can't rely on that 'every teams gunning for us' assumption. They need to have that first quarter burst, and I think Tony's hampered foot has a lot to do with that absence.
Start Manu and Ime, and Vaughn (until Parker's 100%).
I actually think the main problem is the first unit, the Spurs starters start badly in the beginning of the game, the the second unit of Manu/Udoka/Vaughn/etc has to come in to try to fix everything...In today's game, I think by the time Manu came into the game, the Spurs were already down more than 10 points. You can't have that against really good teams like Utah...
You know lately though it just seems that Manu really hasn't been bringing the same energy from the bench right from the beginning that has made our bench successful in the last few years and the reason Manu went to the bench in the first place. He also has just seemed like he's more frustrated than anything so maybe it's time to start him.
The problem is what I said. Secondary scorers are getting off early and thats how they are falling behind quickly AND early.
Beautiful man, Beautiful. Everyone is starting to see the LIGHT (except POP).
It won't do any good to put all our fire power into the starting lineup just to watch Pop put the bench in and lose the lead.
EXACTLY what I think too. Already said this before too. I agree with that T-Park. Pop just needs to try something different.
Please oh Please delete this and any start manu threads from here on out
this is getting ridiculous
Manu will get the 6th man of the year if he continues to come off bench, although he doesn't care.
Last edited by meta2007; 01-29-2008 at 12:55 AM.
Oh, I think I understand now what you mean...
I don't care if we've only scored 12 points if we're able to hold the other team down to 10 points when Manu comes in, that will already be a huge difference.
SPURS win on DEFENSE.
Yeah the defense first mentality would really come back quick with Udoka starting.
Unfortunately getting ejected late in the game due to wanting to mouth off to AK47, he will be lucky to get any PT tommarow night let alone start.
I don't think the bench is the main problem right now...I honestly think it's the starting five at the moment...
In today's game, Manu got 29 pts off the bench. It seems to actually have worked lately, however the problem is that when the starters are not doing well, the bench is not enough to save the game...
In the prior games, Tony was healthier and had amazing games, so the wins were a lot easier, because the bench did not have to do everything...
I think Manu is frustrated with how the Spurs are playing in general, I also see that Timmy is upset too...
As for energy level, I also think it has to do with Manu's finger injury...yet, he actually seems to be one of the few players playing really good at the moment, with any type of passion at all.
Whatever the issue, the line ups definitely need to be looked at right now...before it gets a lot worse.
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