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  1. #76
    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    more lies.

    like when you said you were done with this.

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    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    more lies.

    like when you said you were done with this.
    So you have no idea what a "lie" is either. Damnit!

    "Being general and lying for dummies."

    Go buy a copy.

    How old are you really.

    You're either under the age of 15 or over the age of 70.

  3. #78
    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    so when you say something...then clarify it, its ok....but when I do it...I am lying?

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    so when you say something...then clarify it, its ok....but when I do it...I am lying?
    How do you clarify something like making statements that you scream are truth and fact because you have first hand knowledge but then it ends of being completely false even though another party was calling on your BS.

    You can't clarify something when your just talking out your ass.

    You can correct and clarify a mistake though. That's why man put an eraser on the end of pencils.

  5. #80
    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    I never screamed the truth, I just made a mistake.

    You are going to say what you want about me and that is fine. We disagree but it doesn't really matter. That is what makes message boards fun.

    Have a nice night.

  6. #81
    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    You screamed. Like a Korean hooker.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    no I didn't. Besides...I only buy American!

  8. #83
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    Rolando's Puffy Tacos maybe

    Rolando's Alamodome, home of the MLS Puffy Tacos.
    Catch phrase:

    "You can try to crunch them, but you cant!"

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    It was an example. The Spurs did get over 60,000 a few times.
    This is not true. The most they ever got was around 40k this was because of the curtain. The dome only holds 65k and to get 60k they would have had to open up the whole dome during a game, this never happend, not even in the '99 finals.

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    One way a soccer stadium could happen here is if a school district got involved and used it for high school football and concerts too, etc. Don't expect the city to be crazy about it.

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    Guess who's back. TheWriter's Avatar
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    This is not true. The most they ever got was around 40k this was because of the curtain. The dome only holds 65k and to get 60k they would have had to open up the whole dome during a game, this never happend, not even in the '99 finals.
    He admitted he was talking out his ass. He said something and decided to run with it.

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    One way a soccer stadium could happen here is if a school district got involved and used it for high school football and concerts too, etc. Don't expect the city to be crazy about it.
    The city doesn't have to be crazy about it for it to be built.

  13. #88
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    While you people continue to try to one-up each other and quibble over what may very well be honest mistakes Please, my understanding is this is a done deal. y Council only has to approve the memo of understanding for it to happen and contracts will be signed. The public will not vote on it.

    If some prople have so much time on their hands why can't you fnd out where the 2 pratice fields will be built and who owns/just bought the land.
    Isn't soccer big in Japan? Just a rehtorical question.


    Does APPLEWHITE mean anything to anyone

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    The City Council (clever pun btw) unanimously approved the "memo" last night (Thursday) and the two practice fields will be built at Brooks City Base.

    Applewhite. You mean the reservoir on the southside?

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    Brooks?

    Where at Brooks. The area they have been remodeling for a few months? I thought that was for Wal Mart.

    Since you did mentioned Brooks - When are they going to open a decent Gate and
    Clean up the area around the one now in use.

    On AppleWhite I was trying to be sarcastic. How many times did SA Vote it down and they still continued to go forth

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    Richard Oliver: Dome over stadium? City making wrong call
    Web Posted: 04/15/2005 12:00 AM CDT


    San Antonio Express-News


    Perhaps it is because I am getting up there in years, ingest enough sugar subs utes each day to coat city hall and have sat through more episodes of "SpongeBob SquarePants" than C-Span.

    Sometimes, I'm too shallow for deep thought.

    As dense as a fence post.

    Perhaps that is why I remain bewildered today as I ponder a city government that is considering an investment of nearly $6.5 million to secure a Major League Soccer franchise but can't scrounge up $200,000 to fix substandard lighting at Wolff Stadium.

    That wants to build a $3.7 million practice complex, including two fields and peripheral offices and training areas, to woo a struggling soccer circuit but can't find enough change in the City Hall couches to afford more than what amounts to chewing gum and masking tape to patch the concrete fissures and water leaks at the ballpark.

    That wants to use almost $3 million to finish 14 luxury suites for futbol at the Alamodome but can't locate a few thousand bucks to complete much-needed carpet, painting, air conditioning and landscape work at the baseball field.

    That wants to give away the Alamodome through a mind-boggling array of perks for the MLS but refuses to hand over operation of the financially strapped baseball stadium to a Missions ballclub eager to invest in it.

    That wants to embrace a league that may not see the next decade, while effectively ignoring a franchise that has planted healthy roots in San Antonio soil for a century and counting.

    That wants to budget millions in upgrades for soccer but hasn't invested more than $100,000 for improvements to the baseball park since it opened in 1994.

    That wants to pay dearly for Mayor Ed Garza's legacy — and that's effectively what this is all about — even as it pours red ink all over the work done for baseball by County Judge Nelson Wolff, who as mayor was the driving force in the construction of the Missions' current home.

    That wants us to believe that spending well into seven figures of our money for soccer, a sport that can't buy a second glance in this country, and barely in this county, makes more sense than locating some funds for America's pastime.

    Much less our ailing municipal golf courses.

    Or a sensational city manager candidate.

    Part of the debate over landing Sheryl Sculley, the heavyweight contender for the vital position, came down to the roughly $60,000 more she would make annually than the previous city manager. As part of its proposal to court the MLS, the city would pay more than twice that for new drapery in the dome.

    When it comes to investing in the future around here, it's curtains for all of us.

    "The Missions and Double-A baseball are probably the equivalent of Major League Soccer," Wolff said Thursday morning, struggling to remain politic. "Both will draw 3,000 or 4,000 out there. You know a lot of people don't relate minor-league baseball to an important franchise, but of course I think it is.

    "Pay $4 or $5 to go to see a professional sport, that's part of what's so attractive about minor-league baseball. You go to a basketball game, you have to hawk your jewelry."

    The right to pay at least $14 to see an MLS game won't require such a sacrifice. Instead, the city is asking us to give up so much more.

    Such as common sense.

    In truth, courting soccer for the community and the Alamodome is worthwhile, on some levels. Demographically and economically, it is a sport that tweaks just enough interest in South Texas — especially when Mexican fans are engaged — to pursue opportunities for its advancement.

    But at what cost?

    Certainly not millions. Certainly not at the expense of Wolff Stadium and other needy city facilities.

    "We're just trying to get them to fix the lights up to Double-A standards, and we can't even get them to do that," Missions president Burl Yarbrough said Thursday. "They have plenty of money for a new franchise as opposed to one that's played 100 years here. And here they are willing to give away the Alamodome.

    "This is very disturbing."

    After some deep thought, it seems more than that.

    Dense.



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    Both will draw 3,000 or 4,000 out there.
    Nah, even the worst performing MLS franchises get over twice that. I do agree that Wolff Stadium could use some help.

  18. #93
    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    The Wolff needs an upgrade. If they got one, they might be able to attract a Triple A team.

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    This is completely different from the Alamodome. The Dome was built to lure an NFL team.

    The MLS wants to put a team here. And they most likely are.

    The Stadium, if built, will be built in a few years with the MLS already having a team here.

    You'd think that with all the intelligence you claim to possess you'd be able to make out the noticeable difference between the two situations.

    One being a dome to lure a pro team, the other being a stadium to house your pro team.
    Well of course there are differences. Nothing in this world is identical, but what you fail to grasp the main parallel that this is once again the spending of government money on something that is not nessecarily in our best interest.

    I'm sick of this city council ignoring the problems that it should fix because it's always focused on it's grand endeavours. They are so anxious to jump on the road to greatness they forget to take care of the everday needs of the city.

    People want their roads fixed. People want corruption eliminated. People want the fundemantal tenets of city government to function as they should. They don't want the city council to be a big business recruitment organization who only passes laws that stop the big bad demons that are strip clubs.

    No, YOU fail to grasp the big picture because your gets hard anytime San Antonio gets an extra 2 people moving here or they get rady to pour some concrete for some new construction, regardless of how ill advised it may be.

    I love soccer, including the MLS. I would love to see it here, but I'm pissed off that the city council doesn't let representative democracy work. Oh wait, never mind, Castro does let it work when he has something to gain. He had no problem showing the letters and faxes he got over Sculley, but he was right there ignoring the overwhelming response when he voted for the PGA.

    I grasp that the people in city council care about 2 things. Their agendas and legacys, and the people are always placed behind that.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    The city doesn't have to be crazy about it for it to be built.
    Well don't you just go along well with the current crop of council members who ignore what their cons uatns say unless they can benefit from it?

    It does matter. Thats what representative democracy is about.

  21. #96
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    Wolff stadium is worth spending the money on. If you haven't been to a Missions game you should go out and check them out.
    Best deal for the money.

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