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    Ghost of Mr. K SenorSpur's Avatar
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    Barkley tells it like it is. Although karma was much nicer to the Spurst then it was to him. That's what he gets for being a diehard Laker hater. God don't like Laker haters.
    Charles needs to get his facts straight. The NBA didn't change the draft process because of the Spurs. The NBA changed from the traditional NBA draft to the current NBA Draft Lottery process in 1985. This change was spurred on after the Houston Rockets tanked games in 1983 to obtain the No. 1 pick and the rights to select Ralph Sampson, and then again in 1984 to obtain the No.1 pick and rights to draft Hakeem Olajuwon. So it was the Rockets, not the Spurs, who were responsible for this change.

    Anyway, it was just sheer luck that the Spurs won the draft lottery in both 1987 and 1997. In 1997, Boston had a greater chance to win the lottery because they had the worst record in the league.

    As funny and honest as Charles is, he often talks "out of his ass" sometimes. This was simply another one of those times.

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    Stomping on Laker haters Purple & Gold's Avatar
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    Charles needs to get his facts straight. The NBA didn't change the draft process because of the Spurs. The NBA changed from the traditional NBA draft to the current NBA Draft Lottery process in 1985. This change was spurred on after the Houston Rockets tanked games in 1983 to obtain the No. 1 pick and the rights to select Ralph Sampson, and then again in 1984 to obtain the No.1 pick and rights to draft Hakeem Olajuwon. So it was the Rockets, not the Spurs, who were responsible for this change.

    Anyway, it was just sheer luck that the Spurs won the draft lottery in both 1987 and 1997. In 1997, Boston had a greater chance to win the lottery because they had the worst record in the league.

    As funny and honest as Charles is, he often talks "out of his ass" sometimes. This was simply another one of those times.
    They tanked for Duncan. But yes I agree Charles very often does talk "out of his ass". Most Laker haters do.

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    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    So now it's collusion. Put that up there with the frozen envelope theory.
    Do you even bother to read posts, or do you just pick out some key word and figure that was what the post was about?

    I said it's asinine to call the Finley situation collusive. And I haven't called the Gasol trade collusive. I'm not sure what you're suggesting I've said is collusive, since I haven't called anything that.

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    Charles needs to get his facts straight. The NBA didn't change the draft process because of the Spurs. The NBA changed from the traditional NBA draft to the current NBA Draft Lottery process in 1985. This change was spurred on after the Houston Rockets tanked games in 1983 to obtain the No. 1 pick and the rights to select Ralph Sampson, and then again in 1984 to obtain the No.1 pick and rights to draft Hakeem Olajuwon. So it was the Rockets, not the Spurs, who were responsible for this change.

    Anyway, it was just sheer luck that the Spurs won the draft lottery in both 1987 and 1997. In 1997, Boston had a greater chance to win the lottery because they had the worst record in the league.

    As funny and honest as Charles is, he often talks "out of his ass" sometimes. This was simply another one of those times.
    If I remember correctly, the weighted lottery came about after the Magic managed to win the right to draft Shaq and then, after barely missing the playoffs, ended up with the #1 pick again in 1993.

    There's a lot of facts that get omitted from the "Spurs tanked in 1996-97" nonsense, but they aren't really worth rehashing here as they won't change any minds.

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    Wow, I love the con racy theory. It's pretty amusing and childish. You spurs fans are just pissed because your team is going to rot away while LA wins the championship.

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    Are you guys all drunk on Pop's Kool-Aid??

    Finley signed with you guys for pennies because the Mavs were still paying his mortgage. It's a ing gift. You guys benefited from it; accept it, be happy with it.
    Please, stop embarrassing yourself. The Mavs let Finley go because he was on the downside of his career and they were paying him a huge max level salary. He was averaging 15 ppg with the Mavs and turned into a spot up shooting, making $14M a year. The league decided to give all the teams a one-time amnesty (known as the Allan Houston clause, which ironically, didn't see him getting bought out) allows every team to choose one player to be released from their team without having to pay the luxury tax. The player would still be paid his salary, but will not be allowed to play for the team that released him for the remainder of his contract. It was purely a financial decision.
    Finley had a choice of signing with any team, with the Heat offering him more $, and the Suns rumoured to be his favourite destination due to his previous ties with the team, but he decided to sign with the Spurs because he felt the Spurs had the best chance to win a championship.

    The Spurs made no intention of bringing Robinson back at all that year. Everybody in the world knew what was going on. They tanked the year because the consensus #1 for 2/3 years running was finally coming out. Again you guys benefited from it big time. Be happy it worked.
    So the Spurs actually had a 5-10 in March so they could get a worse chance to win the lottery? Robinson attempted to come back and then broke his foot in 6 games. You know how long a broken foot and subsequently would take a player out for? Sean Elliott required surgery to his quadricep that year and missed a lot of games. In fact the Spurs 3rd best player, Avery Johnson, came back at the end of the season from injuries to try to win games.

    These are all less than scrupalous ways for the "great" spurs franchise to operate, so to hear Pop and spurs fans crying about it is more than ing comical. The Lakers gave up 4 first rounders (M. Gasol is first round talent/compare him to Splitter) for Gasol and a load of cap relief. While it was a great trade for the Lakeshow, please don't act like the Grizzlies didn't get anything in return. Nobody else was willing to pay that (see Chicago) and Mitch scared the Grizz into thinking that Kwame's expiring was gonna go to the Bulls for Wallace.

    So if you wanna cry and curse about it, send 'em towards the Buss family and Mitch's genius. They played the ultimate hand of poker and left the rest of the League with egg on their face.
    LOL on your assertion that Marc Gasol is a 1st round talent when he was actually a 2nd round talent. It doesn't matter where you feel Gasol should go in the draft, he IS a 2nd round talent. And trading 4 LATE 1st rounders for an All-star level PF/center is about one of the biggest steals around.

    Kudos to the Lakers in getting a steal.

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