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  1. #51
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    It's about time, lol. The very first time I heard this trade, I didn't like it at all, as I think more and more about it, the better it gets to me. I think Kidd is going to have a massive impact. I can't wait till tonight!
    Yeah, I went on stubhub and got tickets to the bulls game on Monday night. $35 a piece for section 310, but at least that's in the center and not behind the baselines.

  2. #52
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    It don't matter who we got baby, Dallas has the BASSHOLE! I'm gonna be slappin some fools tonight!

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    The fact that you even put Hassell into the discussion shows you don't know what you are talking about. Hassell almost never even played (i personally didn't understand why, but he didnt, and wasnt going to be used much.)
    Well, that simply shows how far the Mavs are from winning it all, because they brought Hassell in to be what he is - their version of Bowen, a lockdown perimeter defender. And they ain't going anywhere in the playoffs without someone like that. Now who do they have who can actually play defense? Seems to me they're giving away their best defenders, at a time when other teams are getting good ones, for a PG who was the best PG in the league FIVE YEARS AGO.

    if I were a Mavs fan I think I'd be pissed. Because if the Mavs can't get lucky with matchups in the playoffs this year (which is the only way they'll even eke their way to the Finals) then they've ed their team up for years to come.

  4. #54
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    Well, that simply shows how far the Mavs are from winning it all, because they brought Hassell in to be what he is - their version of Bowen, a lockdown perimeter defender.
    Hassell wasn't playing like a lockdown perimeter defender. Thats why they got rid of him. You seriously seem to think you actaully know what the you are talking about.

  5. #55
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    if I were a Mavs fan I think I'd be pissed. Because if the Mavs can't get lucky with matchups in the playoffs this year (which is the only way they'll even eke their way to the Finals) then they've ed their team up for years to come.
    Also, all teams that win the championship have to have some matchup luck to win a le.

    Don't tell me that the Spurs weren't lucky to have to play the Nuggets (garbage), Suns (no defense/rebounding), and Jazz (overachieving team that was lucky to have gotten as far as they even had)...

  6. #56
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    Well, that simply shows how far the Mavs are from winning it all, because they brought Hassell in to be what he is - their version of Bowen, a lockdown perimeter defender. And they ain't going anywhere in the playoffs without someone like that. Now who do they have who can actually play defense? Seems to me they're giving away their best defenders, at a time when other teams are getting good ones, for a PG who was the best PG in the league FIVE YEARS AGO.
    Ask Baron Davis or Dwyane Wade if they think Devin Harris can guard them. It isn't ALL about Tony Parker. Josh and Dirk together already own you guys, and now they're getting a PG who will make things even easier for them? That doesn't potentially offset Tony Parker? Regardless of what TH did in Minnesota, he didn't earn playing time in Dallas and contribute, and he won't be missed.

    if I were a Mavs fan I think I'd be pissed. Because if the Mavs can't get lucky with matchups in the playoffs this year (which is the only way they'll even eke their way to the Finals) then they've ed their team up for years to come
    We don't have four les, we're willing to pay the mortgage like Miami, and you're delusional if you think we're not better today. We'll worry about 2011 when it gets here.

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    Don't tell me that the Spurs weren't lucky to have to play the Nuggets (garbage), Suns (no defense/rebounding), and Jazz (overachieving team that was lucky to have gotten as far as they even had)...
    Don't talk to me about whether I know anything or not if you're going to go around making asinine statements like that.

    All of the teams the Spurs beat en route to their championship last year were championship caliber teams. Even the one that didn't make it out of the first round (Denver) could have easily knocked Dallas off, had they met.

  8. #58
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    Don't talk to me about whether I know anything or not if you're going to go around making asinine statements like that.

    All of the teams the Spurs beat en route to their championship last year were championship caliber teams.
    That's an asinine statement. They were a heavyweight that took on four bantamweights. Only Dallas and Detroit were in San Antonio's class last year, and fortunately for the Spurs, they both conveniently melted down before they could meet up with San Antonio.

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    I don't agree that all the teams we beat last year were championship caliber material, but saying you're a championship caliber team and that you 'melted' in the playoffs is an oxymoron.

  10. #60
    NT? more like SO i said
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    I'd kill to have Jason Kidd on my team!

  11. #61
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    There will always be people dogging on trades ala Shaq to Phx and now Kidd to Dallas. I thought both were necessary moves (though I think Kidd will be more instrumental to the Mavs than Shaq who's there just to provide an inside presence.)

    No one knows for sure, but I like how some people act like they know EXACTLY how things will play out. If the Mavs only goal was to matchup well with the Spurs then they were ed anyways. But hey, better for us. BTW, the way Harris is getting overrated ever since this trade is unbelievable.

  12. #62
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    I don't agree that all the teams we beat last year were championship caliber material, but saying you're a championship caliber team and that you 'melted' in the playoffs is an oxymoron.
    Dallas peaked way too early and the injuries to Dirk and Dampier didn't help against Golden State, but they were absolutely a championship-caliber team last year. If we had beaten the Warriors and Jazz, I think the Spurs would've won the conference finals against us. If we had played a seven-game series against San Antonio in, say, February, we would've won. And that goes for any other team in the League, including the Warriors. The Spurs saved their best for the best possible time. We didn't.

  13. #63
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    There will always be people dogging on trades ala Shaq to Phx and now Kidd to Dallas. I thought both were necessary moves (though I think Kidd will be more instrumental to the Mavs than Shaq who's there just to provide an inside presence.)

    No one knows for sure, but I like how some people act like they know EXACTLY how things will play out. If the Mavs only goal was to matchup well with the Spurs then they were ed anyways. But hey, better for us. BTW, the way Harris is getting overrated ever since this trade is unbelievable.
    In truth, it's not a slam dunk deal. It could blow up in our faces. But I think the fo brass felt it was a necessary risk.

  14. #64
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    In truth, it's not a slam dunk deal. It could blow up in our faces. But I think the fo brass felt it was a necessary risk.
    Lets just say after the last two playoff meltdowns, the postseason Mavs inspire as much fear as a wet puppy.

    And the Mavs looked like they believed that too.

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    In truth, it's not a slam dunk deal. It could blow up in our faces. But I think the fo brass felt it was a necessary risk.
    Gagreed.

    Not much mention of the life and energy this has put into Dirk and the others. Have you seen him in the past couple days? Giddy as a ing schoolgirl. Even after one practice yesterday, guys were beaming about how much easier Kidd made the game for the rest of them.

    Not to say they're going to come out and blow the doors off anyone - , they'll probably lose tonight and we'll have the itchy triggerfingers going nuts - but he seems to be a great fit already.

  16. #66
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    Don't talk to me about whether I know anything or not if you're going to go around making asinine statements like that.

    All of the teams the Spurs beat en route to their championship last year were championship caliber teams. Even the one that didn't make it out of the first round (Denver) could have easily knocked Dallas off, had they met.


    ...you serious?


  17. #67
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    Josh and Dirk together already own you guys, and now they're getting a PG who will make things even easier for them?
    Don't forget that Terry and Stack give them plenty of problems too. The only question mark on defense that we have against the Spurs is how will we guard Tony Parker. We know what Duncan will do and that there is no stopping him. Howard usually does a solid job against Manu.

    I think the Spurs should be wondering more, as to who they will use to guard Howard, Dirk and Terry. Parker obviously cannot guard Terry. No one really can on that team. Dirk has figured Bowen out, Duncan needs to be in the post on defense, plus Duncan has never guarded Dirk effectively, and no one else has a chance against Dirk. Howard never seems to get phased by Bowen or Ginobili. And then Stack somehow always gets open in that corner.

    I've said it way too many times already... the Mavs issues have not, and are not defensive. It's been offensive. They lose games because the get very stagnant on offense, not because their defense sucks. If they score more efficently, it will likewise lead to more efficient defense and will prevent opposing teams from having the scoring runs needed to beat Dallas. Kidd will keep their offense deadly at all times that he is out there.

  18. #68
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    I think the Spurs should be wondering more, as to who they will use to guard Howard, Dirk and Terry. Parker obviously cannot guard Terry. No one really can on that team. Dirk has figured Bowen out, Duncan needs to be in the post on defense, plus Duncan has never guarded Dirk effectively, and no one else has a chance against Dirk. Howard never seems to get phased by Bowen or Ginobili. And then Stack somehow always gets open in that corner.
    Right, we really lose sleep over how we're going to beat you guys. That's why we beat you without Duncan. And Howard sure did a fine job on Manu the last game, getting torched for 37 points.

  19. #69
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    Mavs fans talking about how their team's problem is not defense, it's offense...well, that just makes sense. They've been drinking Mark Cuban's Kool Aid. But Mark Cuban hasn't figured out how to bring a championship to Dallas yet, and I think Dallas's window has officially passed them by...San Antonio, L.A., Utah, New Orleans, and Denver are all better teams right now...and even Phoenix with half-a-Shaq is better right now...

  20. #70
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    explain in your answer.

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    Who got the better end of the Kidd deal?
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    San Antonio got the better end of that trade

  21. #71
    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    All of the teams the Spurs beat en route to their championship last year were championship caliber teams.

    You can't really believe that, can you?

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