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    When he has the ball 5 feet from the basket against single coverage, he'll score on anyone or get whoever is guarding him in foul trouble.
    Against Pau Gasol, uh yeah.

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    Against anyone.

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    D'antoni would like nothing better than to stick it up the ass of the entire NBA that said offensive teams can't win les...and he's right...offensive teams can win les....it's just more expensive and difficult to pull off.

    Have you listened to anything he's said?

    He despises the concept of defense.
    Uh, yes, I know what he thinks about defense, thank you. Offensive teams can win les? Like who? And don't give some team back in the 60s or some bull like that.

    Name a team in the last 20 years of this league that has won with offense and a ' defense' mantra.

    Quit being such a little about this, Barry isn't ready to play, he's going to take his 30 days, recover, and be back in SA. Sarver just traded away Shawn Marion to get away from his contract expectations, yet we're supposed to believe he's going to pony up 7 million dollars for Brent ing Barry.

    Again, we're all supposed to believe that D'Antoni is going to fall over himself to get Barry and play him ahead of Diaw, Barbosa, and Bell in the fourth? GMAFB.

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    can we please get a v-bookie on brent comin back? please kori, ill put all i got on the line. if its possible for him to come back, he will

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    Doesn't make it any less true.

    Of course it's true.

    But there is no corresponding correlation that indicates he is likely to repeat that decision.

    In fact, if anything, I'd say it's a point against his return to the Spurs if he can get more money from another contender. He's passed up the $ already and has the rings for it.

    That argument is a fallacy - akin to the way the Rhythm method of birth control works in theory - you can't predict the future by going solely on the past. There are too many variables.

    Don't get me wrong. I LOVE Brent Barry. He is one of my favorite players, and SFIE will tell you that I actually teared up when he told me about the trade, because I was genuinely unhappy to see him leave the team.

    I want him back.

    I'm just not going to say it's clearly a done deal, when it very clearly isn't. I'll jump for joy if he clears waivers and resigns with the Spurs. It'll confirm every good thing I think of him. But he might not - and until he does, I don't want to be disappointed or upset or outraged.

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    [QUOTE=T Park]Right right.

    As long as you believe that.



    What was barry's injury in the 06 playoffs that had him get lit up by Stackhouse like a Vegas Slot machine?

    It a rare condition called Pop's subs ions. Barry isn't the first guy it's stricken...there was once a guy named Steve Kerr that suffered this condition...he overcame it in his final season as a player....I imagine he and Barry can swap stories about it...


    I know, Pop knew his , always, infallibly...that's why he traded Kerr away.....

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    Last night the Lakers doubled Shaq the entire first half. In the second, he scored 8 straight points in the 4th quarter against single coverage.
    Wow, he scored against Gasol and Turiaf. Not exactly the cream of the crop when it comes to low post defense.

    Duncan has been handling Shaq one on one for two years running now. Thomas plays him tough too. Shaq might have one good offensive game in a series against us. Good for him, but I'm not exactly losing any sleep over Shaq in the post.

    And if fat ass is getting the rock, that means it's not in the hands of Amare or Nash. I suspect the Spurs would be more than willing to make that trade.

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    What's so funny? If Shaq gets the ball 5 feet from the basket against single coverage, he'll score almost every time no matter who is defending him. He may be old, but he's still the strongest guy in the league.

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    It a rare condition called Pop's subs ions. Barry isn't the first guy it's stricken...there was once a guy named Steve Kerr that suffered this condition...he overcame it in his final season as a player....I imagine he and Barry can swap stories about it
    So its Pop's fault that Stackhouse lit him up?

    Got it....

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    If the Spurs end up being successful in getting Barry back they will have essentially added Kurt Thomas for Elson and a 1st round pick. Considering how highly the Spurs covet their first round picks that might end up being a pretty darn good deal when all is said and done.

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    I don't want to be disappointed or upset or outraged.
    Seriously?
    Outraged?

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    Of course it's true.

    But there is no corresponding correlation that indicates he is likely to repeat that decision.

    In fact, if anything, I'd say it's a point against his return to the Spurs if he can get more money from another contender. He's passed up the $ already and has the rings for it.

    That argument is a fallacy - akin to the way the Rhythm method of birth control works in theory - you can't predict the future by going solely on the past. There are too many variables.

    Don't get me wrong. I LOVE Brent Barry. He is one of my favorite players, and SFIE will tell you that I actually teared up when he told me about the trade, because I was genuinely unhappy to see him leave the team.

    I want him back.

    I'm just not going to say it's clearly a done deal, when it very clearly isn't. I'll jump for joy if he clears waivers and resigns with the Spurs. It'll confirm every good thing I think of him. But he might not - and until he does, I don't want to be disappointed or upset or outraged.
    if brent really wants to secure his future, he will remain a spur. look at how many ex-spurs are runnin in the nba. a couple mil here or there is not worth the opportunity to stay with the organazation.

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    after two salary dumping trades, the rockets got enough cap room and a roster spot to make a run for Brent Barry!

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    Seriously?
    Outraged?

    What, you are going to pretend that Spurs fans on this forum are so level-headed and even-keeled that there wouldn't be outrage over Brent being disloyal and signing with a rival?

    Please.

    Would I personally hope to burn him at the stake for a financial decision? No. But the way people are building this up as a certain thing makes it much harder if it doesn't come to fruition.

    That's my point. And frankly, I think you should understand that pretty clearly, given your history.

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    Uh, yes, I know what he thinks about defense, thank you. Offensive teams can win les? Like who? And don't give some team back in the 60s or some bull like that.

    Name a team in the last 20 years of this league that has won with offense and a ' defense' mantra.

    Hasn't been one...there also hasn't been one as good as the Suns in that period.



    Quit being such a little about this, Barry isn't ready to play, he's going to take his 30 days, recover, and be back in SA. Sarver just traded away Shawn Marion to get away from his contract expectations, yet we're supposed to believe he's going to pony up 7 million dollars for Brent ing Barry.

    No...we're supposed to believe that Kerr is going to make a run at him once he clears waivers....if only because he has smoked the Suns ass and they would much prefer him off our team.



    Again, we're all supposed to believe that D'Antoni is going to fall over himself to get Barry and play him ahead of Diaw, Barbosa, and Bell in the fourth? GMAFB.

    Who says it has to be the fourth? I personally think D'antoni would give him minutes over Barbosa, because Barbosa plays like a bonehead in those situationa frequently...


    Mike D'antoni is the anti-pop...the way Pop will on offensive player to put a defensive scrub out there that can't do ...

    D'antoni will do the exact same thing with offensive personnel. He'll take a big all over those defensive guys.

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    after two salary dumping trades, the rockets got enough cap room and a roster spot to make a run for Brent Barry!
    No cap room.

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    If you guys think Jacque Vaughn is as good of a player as Barry...you've obviously been drinking way too much Pop coolaid. And no...he can't guard Barry. Get ing serious Aggie. Barry is 6'7 and one of the best shooting PCT guards in the NBA. And he can get his own shot off...yeah he's not going to drop 30 on anyone...because that's not his game....but he'll hit painful shots.

    He's hit bigshots for his entire Spurs career..and if you haven't noticed that it's just because you weren't watching.


    I promise you...the Suns were watching....up close.

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    The question is, do you want Duncan single covering Shaq in the post the whole night, or do you want him trying to guard Amare facing up 15 feet from the basket? Either way it's a mismatch, so the Spurs will have to double one of them or Duncan will get in foul trouble. Barry is another guy that hits 40% plus from three.
    Also, more than anything what killed the Suns the last couple series against San Antonio was Amare constantly getting in foul trouble. That's one thing Shaq can help with. The Spurs can try the same strategy as before and give up 40 a night to Amare, but Amare's better now than in the past and with Shaq there, there is less chance he'll end up in foul trouble.

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    So its Pop's fault that Stackhouse lit him up?

    Got it....
    It's Pop's fault that he didn't have a clue what his role or rotation spot was...

    And Stackhouse has lit up everyone that we've put on him since the day he went to the Mavs.

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    It's Pop's fault that he didn't have a clue what his role or rotation spot was...

    And Stackhouse has lit up everyone that we've put on him since the day he went to the Mavs.

    Check the corner of your mouth, I see a little brent jr there.

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    Check the corner of your mouth, I see a little brent jr there.


    What a vindictive person you are Tpark.

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    What a 5 year old acting child you are Whottt.

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    vindictive vindictive vindictive...I'd have never thought it.

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    Because Bruce Bowen is never on the court for the Spurs, now is he?
    No offense, but that's a stupid statement. Nash guards Bowen, since he can't guard anyone else. So if Barry would guard Bowen, we'd still have a badass matchup with whoever Nash guards....

    Just saying that's not a good argument. The Dantoni not caring about D was better.

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