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  1. #51
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    Kidd's salary comes off the books after next year, but can this team overhaul and retool their roster for a le run next year? Who would want Jet and Stack's contract?

    We need to get a low-post back to the basket scorer, and Josh Howard is our most valuable asset to get one back. Swingmen are easier to find and replace than low-post guys. If this thing is in the dumps a year from now, we can probably trade Kidd's expiring contract for something.

    They can completely overhaul now, or try to do what Miami did two years ago and load up on veterans that still have a little bit left in the tank for one more run.
    Howard for Gerald Wallace or Corey Maggette.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    Howard for Gerald Wallace or Corey Maggette.
    If Elton Brand opts out, Cuban needs to make any and every player or asset available besides Dirk and Kidd.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Howard for Gerald Wallace or Corey Maggette.
    Why would those teams do either of those trades? Trading a top-notch slasher for a fadeaway jump shooter who plays ty defense?

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    Why would those teams do either of those trades? Trading a top-notch slasher for a fadeaway jump shooter who plays ty defense?
    I don't know. What I do know is that I want Corey Maggette in Dallas. He drives relentlessly and gets to the line around 10 times a game. We need that when jumper's aren't falling.

    Plus Maggette and Kidd would be a thing of beauty. Maggette is a terrific athlete.

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    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    Isn't Okafor at the end of his contract?

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    I'm starting to believe the Mavs got the worse deal. Diop and Harris have been great for New Jersey while Kidd has been sucking. He can't utilize his great passing anymore since he can't break defenses down.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    I'm starting to believe the Mavs got the worse deal. Diop and Harris have been great for New Jersey while Kidd has been sucking. He can't utilize his great passing anymore since he can't break defenses down.
    What the are you talking about? Did you just pull that out of your ass?

    Diop is playing 12 minutes a game and his numbers are actually worse than they were in Dallas.

    Harris is scoring points but only because they're letting him chuck. His shooting percent is atrocious. And his assist totals aren't anything to write home about.

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    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    I'm starting to believe the Mavs got the worse deal. Diop and Harris have been great for New Jersey while Kidd has been sucking. He can't utilize his great passing anymore since he can't break defenses down.
    Diop hasn't done in NJ. And Kidd is still a great passer and hasn't sucked in his time in Dallas. Blame the coach and his offense first.

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    Diop hasn't done in NJ. And Kidd is still a great passer and hasn't sucked in his time in Dallas. Blame the coach and his offense first.
    Diop doesn't need to fill up the stat sheet. He does what no one else does on this team with the exception of Dampier occassionally. Help defense. Yes this team can blame Avery first but the trade wasn't great either. We lost our 2 best defensive players and Kidd hasn't done enough on either side to make up for it. We are old and slow now.

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    It is about Chemistry.

    Harris fit and was a player that was key to the team winning 67 games...not to mention he was Josh Howard's best friend.

    You don't screw up chemistry....that is the reason the Rockets didn't add Artest...they kept their rookies because of chemistry.

    It is the hardest thing to get with a team and it is so fragile.

    The Spurs have it, the Rockets have it, the Mavs and Suns do not.

    DD

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    It is about Chemistry.
    What is Rocket Fan doing lecturing about chemistry? Your two superstars have been the posterboys of "not a good match" for over 3 years now, they have yet to win a playoff series, you change coaches, and the front office has been tinkering with the roster like crazy the entire time.

    Now you go on a nice winning streak in the middle of the regular season and you think you're the experts on chemistry? off.

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    Rockets and chemistry. Hilarious.

    Dallas has Josh Howard. He's a chemistry killer from the get-go.

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    Veteran DaDakota's Avatar
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    What is Rocket Fan doing lecturing about chemistry? Your two superstars have been the posterboys of "not a good match" for over 3 years now, they have yet to win a playoff series, you change coaches, and the front office has been tinkering with the roster like crazy the entire time.

    Now you go on a nice winning streak in the middle of the regular season and you think you're the experts on chemistry? off.
    The reason for all those changes was to get the chemistry right, as I said it is tough...

    JVG was not the right fit, Adelman is....

    Yao and Tmac are fine, but the role players around them were not...so they tweaked.....

    You are just jealous as a Mavs fan because your team has lost that elusive chemistry...bummer...

    DD

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    JVG instilled the only thing the Rockets have going for them - defense.

    And he's a much smarter and funnier coach than Adelman.

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    No question, Suns.

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    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    Jason Kidd was the worst acquisition as far as players go, but since coaching is the determining factor so often, I'm going to have to say the Suns made the worse trade because D'Antoni doesn't seem capable of pulling it all together. I'm not saying this team with another coach would win the le, but I think Rick Carlisle could get the most out of the frontcourt and make them contenders.

    D'Antoni is the weak link in the Suns attempt at a le. Until either his ideal personnel is acquired, which no longer seems possible, or he's fired, the Suns aren't winning a damn thing.

    For as bad as the Kidd trade is this season, I think Stackhouse/Howard in a sign-n-trade for Brand could go a long way in shoring up the Mavericks frontcourt, makin them contenders again.

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    Mavs will be fine...

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    Why would those teams do either of those trades? Trading a top-notch slasher for a fadeaway jump shooter who plays ty defense?
    Agreed. Is there a more overrated defender in the NBA than Howard?
    McGrady abused him on some possesions last night like a man against a boy. Howard tried to come back at him on offense and on a few occasions got shown a clinic by McGrady.

    Is there a more underrated defender than McGrady by the way? I've seen him do some great things 1-on-1 against both Dirk and Howard through the years.

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