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    Make sure you quote me, because CaptMike has me blocked... I'm too logical.

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    I love that CaptMike is made fun of everywhere on this board, but he keeps coming back. I also love that he doesn't understand we're making fun of him, and keeps quoting mono, calling it "sig-worthy" material.

    I'd swear this guy were also SpursDynasty or DazedAndConfused, but there is such a haughtiness in his posts that the other two don't possess. SpursDynasty knows that when he calls LeBron James a "fluke" we all know he's being slightly, yet annoyingly humorous. Mike really thinks he's smarter than us. However, his poor college education, inability to take jokes, propensity to change the subject(s) mid-thread, and shockingly consistent amnesia of his own stupid and grossly inaccurate posts negate that theory.

    He also has a terrible command of the English language, but since they speak an odd dialect of in Oklahoma, I'll forgive it this time.
    I don't peruse the College Forums too often but I have enough to see his Okie State jerkoff sessions. That's all I needed to see. It just sucks that he spreads his insufferable douchiness beyond that forum.

    It used to be mildly amused to read his orgasmic pleasure over Seattle getting raped of their basketball team and having it given away to some ty little hick town with little significance beyond whatever terrorist bombing has happened there recently. Now he's just gotten annoying.

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    Make sure you quote me, because CaptMike has me blocked... I'm too logical.

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    Dude the Mavs are the only team to beat the Spurs in the last 3 years. If they get there act together they still have a shot.
    I don't think they have much of a chance. You could see it this is a team that as was constructed starting the year had NEVER gotten past being beaten in the first RD of the playoffs, they were humiliated and never got over it. They made changes and those changes have not come together like they hoped. I think that core group is not contending for a le at all. 2006 was there shot and they came up 2 games short.

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    Mavs have little interest to tank right now.

    Given teams record, if Mavs are in the lottery, they will be the team with the best record among lottery teams.
    They will get the 14th pick at 98%.

    Even if you consider that winning the championship is a long shot for Dallas, is a 14th pick worth losing that shot ?

    And if Mavs keep their pick this year, they will lose their 2009 pick.

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    Mavs have little interest to tank right now.

    Given teams record, if Mavs are in the lottery, they will be the team with the best record among lottery teams.
    They will get the 14th pick at 98%.

    Even if you consider that winning the championship is a long shot for Dallas, is a 14th pick worth losing that shot ?

    And if Mavs keep their pick this year, they will lose their 2009 pick.
    I'm torn. I mean, a bad road team is all of the sudden going to reel off 4 series wins in a row without HCA? We'll get a decent player with the 14th pick in the draft.

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    Mavs fans are all ing about not having a backup center....well the 14th pick gets us Kevin Love or Roy Hibbert. Roy Hibbert is basically Diop with some post skills. Kevin Love isn't all that athletic, but he's a smart defender, and the guy can give us 8-10 ppg easy as a rookie.

    if we want to go future PG, we can easily trade up a few spots for DJ Augustin. Or maybe pull something out of our asses and get Derrick Rose.

    our options open up a of a lot more if we get into the lottery. We still have Dirk & Kidd to make a run next year, which means losing the 2009 pick is really a non-factor if this team gets better pieces around those two next year.

    I'm starting to convince myself that this team doesn't need a blowup, they just need to miss the playoffs, get that lottery pick, and do some more retooling. Give Kidd an entire offseason to become the leader of the team, give him & Dirk more time together, and make a move for Corey Maggette.

    Avery also has to get with the program, or get the out of town. If he's going to keep a stranglehold on the team, then fire him.

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    Mavs fans are all ing about not having a backup center....well the 14th pick gets us Kevin Love or Roy Hibbert. Roy Hibbert is basically Diop with some post skills. Kevin Love isn't all that athletic, but he's a smart defender, and the guy can give us 8-10 ppg easy as a rookie
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    Maybe, maybe not. I've seen him go before 14 in a lot of mock drafts. And does he come out for sure?

    if we want to go future PG, we can easily trade up a few spots for DJ Augustin. Or maybe pull something out of our asses and get Derrick Rose
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    Our only real assets to trade are Josh Howard and Brandon Bass. Given the convoluted difficulties in resigning Bass after next year, we might as well trade him now to get something for him while his value is high, since it will be hard to keep him.

    our options open up a of a lot more if we get into the lottery. We still have Dirk & Kidd to make a run next year, which means losing the 2009 pick is really a non-factor if this team gets better pieces around those two next year.
    I think we need to make a concerted effort to get rid of Stack and Terry's contracts, but no team would want those unless we're taking some salary back and parting with Howard as well. Those three guys count for $26-some million against the cap, so we should probably be able to get something good back for them. We also have George's Bird Rights to match salary in a S-n-T.

    We should retool for next year, and if we come up short again, then blow this thing the up.

    Avery also has to get with the program, or get the out of town. If he's going to keep a stranglehold on the team, then fire him.
    I think he's gone, for the ulative effect of getting successively outcoached by Riley and Nellie, which isn't that bad because those are two of the keenest basketball minds around, but also making the strategic decision to "do like the Spurs do" and mess around with rotation and sub patterns early on. It turns out wins were precious in the West this year, and wouldn't it be nice to have back those early season losses to teams now that we can't survive Dirk being out so long? That SPAM works for San Antonio, but we have to find out own approach.

    I agree about making a run for Maggette. He makes $7 million a year, and he can opt out of his deal. Some team will give him a raise, and I'm sure he would rather play on a contending team than the Clippers.

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    One problem with Maggette is that he's injury-prone.

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    I think he's gone, for the ulative effect of getting successively outcoached by Riley and Nellie, which isn't that bad because those are two of the keenest basketball minds around, but also making the strategic decision to "do like the Spurs do" and mess around with rotation and sub patterns early on. It turns out wins were precious in the West this year, and wouldn't it be nice to have back those early season losses to teams now that we can't survive Dirk being out so long? That SPAM works for San Antonio, but we have to find out own approach.
    This is right on.

    Considering the confidence issues that surround the Mavs, the best approach was actually the one they took last year - setting the lineups early, not straying from them, and going balls-out all season long. These guys are pros, they shouldn't "tire out" at the end of the year, and I think that was just a BS cop-out that the team took after being ousted by the Warriors.

    This team can only succeed if they are comfortable playing together and they're ac ulating wins and building up that fragile confidence. Constantly tinkering with lineups screws up all of those things.

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    Considering the confidence issues that surround the Mavs, the best approach was actually the one they took last year - setting the lineups early, not straying from them, and going balls-out all season long. These guys are pros, they shouldn't "tire out" at the end of the year, and I think that was just a BS cop-out that the team took after being ousted by the Warriors.
    Yeah, they weren't "tired" against the Warriors, they simply peaked too early. You do have to time these things just right. For instance, I think the Rockets have peaked. I don't know of any team that would've wanted to play them if the playoffs had started 3 weeks ago. The Warriors themselves were incredibly hot right as the playoffs had started, while the Mavs had been ing around since they had the #1 seed wrapped up for so long.

    This team can only succeed if they are comfortable playing together and they're ac ulating wins and building up that fragile confidence. Constantly tinkering with lineups screws up all of those things.
    The one good thing about next year, is that unless we pull off some blockbuster moves like the Celtics did, there will be no expectations and nobody will be paying us any heed. Those things can work for us. It's not like we're the Pacers and missing out on a playoff berth in the East. This is still a very good team. I will say this: if you're going to get Kidd, you need to commit to getting the right players around him. Outside of Josh, Dirk and Terry, we don't have enough guys to run with him.

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    In Sefko's chat, he mentioned Joe Johnson or Josh Smith as possible guys to get in the offseason.

    That's an interesting situation, since Josh Childress & Josh Smith are both restricted free agents, and Joe Johnson has a monster contract that the Hawks wouldn't mind losing if the right deal came along. Cuban obviously doesn't mind paying a monster contract either.

    I'd LOVE to have my boy Joe Johnson on the Mavs, or Childress or Smith for that matter. Childress is GREAT at moving w/o the ball, he does dirty work, and he'd fit in perfect with Kidd.

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    Josh S is a restricted FA. I don't know how much money we could offer, what kind of contracts the Hawks would be willing to take back, but yeah, if we could wing a deal for Joe and Josh S, that would be awesome.

    Changes need to be made. Two years ago, they figured nothing drastic needed to happen because of how close they came. Last year, they gave more weight to winning 67 games than losing like they did in the 1st round. Now, they need to really shake things up.

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    I really think we should get Joe Johnson, he can really take some pressure of Dirk during crunch time and he is someone who the defense must pay attention too.

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    The Mavs need to get an athletic swingman who can slash into the lane, penetrate, and finish at the rim. It also wouldn't hurt if they managed to find a legitimate low post threat they could throw it into everyone once in a while when the jumpshots aren't falling.

    Right now they are simply too perimeter oriented.

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    KG will win a ring this year so that will fix that.
    Uh...NOT!

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    Josh Howard - trade him.
    Jason Terry - trade him.

    What other offseason moves need to be done?

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    Josh Howard - trade him.
    Jason Terry - trade him.

    What other offseason moves need to be done?
    Fire Avery and kill Cuban.

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