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    Dude, are you ing nuts? By that logic, I should have a cloud of pot smoke following me around 24/7.
    Based your avatar, sig, your pre-disposition to video games and your awesome comment I can only conclude that yes, you are exactly the type of person who SHOULD have a cloud of chronic smoke around them all day. You're free to join the team if you'd like.

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    I wish I had some Marijuana right now. Oh well. Alcohol is fine for now.

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    Marijuana is a drug...its purpose is to you up. If you prefer being ed up to not being ed up, your not alone.

    When I was a kid, being ed up was fine. I'm an adult now, responsibilities lead to doing the best I can for me and my family...can't do it being ed up.

    I remember telling everyone when I was in college how I could do things as well, or better when I was ed up.

    I said, and did, a lotta stupid things in college.

    Such is life.

    Duncan doesn't look too ed up to me.

    ...at least on the court
    Well, I respect what you're saying and your tone more than most of these other jackasses, but I will say this:

    That's the exact same thing I say about alcohol. I ing hate alcohol. The reason- it's purpose is to you up. Literally I say those exact words all the time. Marijuana sir, does not you up.

    The day I say "I want to get ed up" in professing desire of marijuana is the day I'll quit smoking weed.

    I know you don't know what it's like to be a smart, tolerant, marijuana smoker in this day and age, but man, all I can say is that the last thing it does is you up.

    Hey and I'm going to tell you guys all right now. There are two kinds of marijuana smokers in this world. Very high end elitists, or somewhere below that. Just know that there's an awful lot of us who are smart, normal, well accomplished people who just happen to be connoisseurs when it comes to Cannibus Sativa.
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    Based your avatar, sig, your pre-disposition to video games and your awesome comment I can only conclude that yes, you are exactly the type of person who SHOULD have a cloud of chronic smoke around them all day. You're free to join the team if you'd like.
    Nah, I'm good. Pot's not my thing. It's not some moral stand, or anything, I just prefer my highs to come from spending time with the people I love. Not to say I have anything against people who do pot, as long as it doesn't become, you know, destructive. They let me do my thing, I let them do theirs, y'know?

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    I've never smoked weed in my life.

    Is that wrong?
    no. just the more reason to burn.

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    Well, I respect what you're saying and your tone more than most of these other jackasses, but I will say this:

    That's the exact same thing I say about alcohol. I ing hate alcohol. The reason- it's purpose is to you up. Literally I say those exact words all the time. Marijuana sir, does not you up.

    The day I say "I want to get ed up" in professing desire of marijuana is the day I'll quit smoking weed.

    I know you don't know what it's like to be a smart, tolerant, marijuana smoker in this day and age, but man, all I can say is that the last thing it does is you up.

    Hey and I'm going to tell you guys all right now. There are two kinds of marijuana smokers in this world. Very high end elitists, or somewhere below that. Just know that there's an awful lot of us who are smart, normal, well accomplished people who just happen to be connoisseurs when it comes to Cannibus Sativa.

    hahaha. whatever. s and giggles.

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    you were probably one of those nerds in high school that nobody would let you smoke with them. ROFL


    Don't be so sure about that. Anyway, for those interested, here is a nice review article about the effects of marijuana - with abundant references (all relatively current I might add):








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    Marijuana is the most commonly abused illicit drug in the United States. A dry, shredded green/brown mix of flowers, stems, seeds, and leaves of the hemp plant Cannabis sativa, it usually is smoked as a cigarette (joint, nail), or in a pipe (bong). It also is smoked in blunts, which are cigars that have been emptied of tobacco and refilled with marijuana, often in combination with another drug. It might also be mixed in food or brewed as a tea. As a more concentrated, resinous form it is called hashish and, as a sticky black liquid, hash oil. Marijuana smoke has a pungent and distinctive, usually sweet-and-sour odor. There are countless street terms for marijuana including pot, herb, weed, grass, widow, ganja, and hash, as well as terms derived from trademarked varieties of cannabis, such as Bubble Gum, Northern Lights, Fruity Juice, Afghani #1, and a number of Skunk varieties.

    The main active chemical in marijuana is THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol). The membranes of certain nerve cells in the brain contain protein receptors that bind to THC. Once securely in place, THC kicks off a series of cellular reactions that ultimately lead to the high that users experience when they smoke marijuana.

    Extent of Use

    In 2004, 14.6 million Americans age 12 and older used marijuana at least once in the month prior to being surveyed. About 6,000 people a day in 2004 used marijuana for the first time—2.1 million Americans. Of these, 63.8 percent were under age 181. In the last half of 2003, marijuana was the third most commonly abused drug mentioned in drug-related hospital emergency department (ED) visits in the continental United States, at 12.6 percent, following cocaine (20 percent) and alcohol (48.7 percent)2.

    Prevalence of lifetime,* annual, and use within the last 30 days for marijuana remained stable among 10th- and 12th-graders surveyed between 2003 and 2004. However, 8th-graders reported a significant decline in 30-day use and a significant increase in perceived harmfulness of smoking marijuana once or twice and regularly3. Trends in disapproval of using marijuana once or twice and occasionally rose among 8th-graders as well, and 10th-graders reported an increase in disapproval of occasional and regular use for the same period3.


    Percentage of 8th-Graders Who Have Used Marijuana:
    Monitoring the Future Study, 2005

    1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999
    Lifetime 16.7% 19.9% 23.1% 22.6% 22.2% 22.0%
    Annual 13.0 15.8 18.3 17.7 16.9 16.5
    30-day 7.8 9.1 11.3 10.2 9.7 9.7
    Daily 0.7 0.8 1.5 1.1 1.1 1.4


    2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
    Lifetime 20.3% 20.4% 19.2% 17.5% 16.3% 16.5%
    Annual 15.6 15.4 14.6 12.8 11.8 12.2
    30-day 9.1 9.2 8.3 7.5 6.4 6.6
    Daily 1.3 1.3 1.2 1.0 0.8 1.0




    Percentage of 10th-Graders Who Have Used Marijuana:
    Monitoring the Future Study, 2005

    1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999
    Lifetime 30.4% 34.1% 39.8% 42.3% 39.6% 40.9%
    Annual 25.2 28.7 33.6 34.8 31.1 32.1
    30-day 15.8 17.2 20.4 20.5 18.7 19.4
    Daily 2.2 2.8 3.5 3.7 3.6 3.8


    2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
    Lifetime 40.3% 40.1% 38.7% 36.4% 35.1% 34.1%
    Annual 32.2 32.7 30.3 28.2 27.5 26.6
    30-day 19.7 19.8 17.8 17.0 15.9 15.2
    Daily 3.8 4.5 3.9 3.6 3.2 3.1




    Percentage of 12th-Graders Who Have Used Marijuana
    Monitoring the Future Study, 2005

    1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999
    Lifetime 38.2% 41.7% 44.9% 49.6% 49.1% 49.7%
    Annual 30.7 34.7 35.8 38.5 37.5 37.8
    30-day 19.0 21.2 21.9 23.7 22.8 23.1
    Daily 3.6 4.6 4.9 5.8 5.6 6.0


    2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
    Lifetime 48.8% 49.0% 47.8% 46.1% 45.7% 44.8%
    Annual 36.5 37.0 36.2 34.9 34.3 33.6
    30-day 21.6 22.4 21.5 21.2 19.9 19.8
    Daily 6.0 5.8 6.0 6.0 5.6 5.0


    * "Lifetime" refers to use at least once during a respondent’s lifetime. "Annual" refers to use at least once during the year preceding an individual's response to the survey. "30-day" refers to use at least once during the 30 days preceding an individual’s response to the survey.



    Effects on the Brain

    Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to organs throughout the body, including the brain.

    In the brain, THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement4.

    The short-term effects of marijuana can include problems with memory and learning; distorted perception; difficulty in thinking and problem solving; loss of coordination; and increased heart rate. Research findings for long-term marijuana abuse indicate some changes in the brain similar to those seen after long-term abuse of other major drugs. For example, cannabinoid (THC or synthetic forms of THC) withdrawal in chronically exposed animals leads to an increase in the activation of the stress-response system5 and changes in the activity of nerve cells containing dopamine6. Dopamine neurons are involved in the regulation of motivation and reward, and are directly or indirectly affected by all drugs of abuse.


    Effects on the Heart

    One study has indicated that an abuser's risk of heart attack more than quadruples in the first hour after smoking marijuana7. The researchers suggest that such an effect might occur from marijuana's effects on blood pressure and heart rate and reduced oxygen-carrying capacity of blood.


    Effects on the Lungs

    A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers8. Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.

    Even infrequent abuse can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, often accompanied by a heavy cough. Someone who smokes marijuana regularly may have many of the same respiratory problems that tobacco smokers do, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illness, a heightened risk of lung infections, and a greater tendency to obstructed airways9. Smoking marijuana possibly increases the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck. A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced evidence that marijuana smoking doubled or tripled the risk of these cancers10.

    Marijuana abuse also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens9,11. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke12. It also induces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form—levels that may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells13. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may be more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco.


    Other Health Effects

    Some of marijuana's adverse health effects may occur because THC impairs the immune system's ability to fight disease. In laboratory experiments that exposed animal and human cells to THC or other marijuana ingredients, the normal disease-preventing reactions of many of the key types of immune cells were inhibited14. In other studies, mice exposed to THC or related substances were more likely than unexposed mice to develop bacterial infections and tumors15,16.


    Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior

    Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. Depression17, anxiety17, and personality disturbances18 have been associated with chronic marijuana use. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in ac ulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off19,20,25.

    Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers21,22,23,24. A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.

    More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana abusers to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks25. Thus, some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.

    Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, iness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use26. In another study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health27.


    Effects of Exposure During Pregnancy

    Research has shown that some babies born to women who abused marijuana during their pregnancies display altered responses to visual stimuli28, increased tremulousness, and a high-pitched cry, which may indicate neurological problems in development29. During the preschool years, marijuana-exposed children have been observed to perform tasks involving sustained attention and memory more poorly than nonexposed children do30,31. In the school years, these children are more likely to exhibit deficits in problem-solving skills, memory, and the ability to remain attentive30.


    Addictive Potential

    Long-term marijuana abuse can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they abuse the drug compulsively even though it interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. Drug craving and withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop abusing the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeplessness, and anxiety32. They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately one week after the last use of the drug33.


    Genetic Vulnerability

    Scientists have found that whether an individual has positive or negative sensations after smoking marijuana can be influenced by heredity. A 1997 study demonstrated that identical male twins were more likely than nonidentical male twins to report similar responses to marijuana abuse, indicating a genetic basis for their response to the drug34. (Identical twins share all of their genes.)

    It also was discovered that the twins' shared or family environment before age 18 had no detectable influence on their response to marijuana. Certain environmental factors, however, such as the availability of marijuana, expectations about how the drug would affect them, the influence of friends and social contacts, and other factors that differentiate experiences of identical twins were found to have an important effect.34


    Treating Marijuana Problems

    The latest treatment data indicate that, in 2002, marijuana was the primary drug of abuse in about 15 percent (289,532) of all admissions to treatment facilities in the United States. Marijuana admissions were primarily male (75 percent), White (55 percent), and young (40 percent were in the 15-–19 age range). Those in treatment for primary marijuana abuse had begun use at an early age; 56 percent had abused it by age 14 and 92 percent had abused it by 1835.

    One study of adult marijuana abusers found comparable benefits from a 14-session cognitive-behavioral group treatment and a 2-session individual treatment that included motivational interviewing and advice on ways to reduce marijuana use. Participants were mostly men in their early thirties who had smoked marijuana daily for more than 10 years. By increasing patients' awareness of what triggers their marijuana abuse, both treatments sought to help patients devise avoidance strategies. Abuse, dependence symptoms, and psychosocial problems decreased for at least 1 year following both treatments; about 30 percent of the patients were abstinent during the last 3-month followup period36.

    Another study suggests that giving patients vouchers that they can redeem for goods—such as movie passes, sporting equipment, or vocational training—may further improve outcomes37.

    Although no medications are currently available for treating marijuana abuse, recent discoveries about the workings of the THC receptors have raised the possibility of eventually developing a medication that will block the intoxicating effects of THC. Such a medication might be used to prevent relapse to marijuana abuse by lessening or eliminating its appeal.


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    1 Results from the 2004 National Survey on Drug Use and Health: National Findings (Office of Applied Studies, NSDUH Series H–27, DHHS Publication No. SMA 05–4061). Rockville, MD, 2004. NSDUH is an annual survey conducted by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Copies of the latest survey are available from the National Clearinghouse for Alcohol and Drug Information at 800-729-6686.

    2 These data are from the annual Drug Abuse Warning Network, funded by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, DHHS. The survey provides information about emergency department visits that are induced by or related to the use of an illicit drug or the nonmedical use of a legal drug. The latest data are available at 800-729-6686 or online at www.samhsa.gov.

    3 These data are from the 2005 Monitoring the Future Survey, funded by the National Ins ute on Drug Abuse, National Ins utes of Health, DHHS, and conducted annually by the University of Michigan’s Ins ute for Social Research. The survey has tracked 12th-graders’ illicit drug use and related at udes since 1975; in 1991, 8th- and 10th-graders were added to the study. The latest data are online at www.drugabuse.gov.

    4 Herkenham M, Lynn A, Little MD, Johnson MR, et al. Cannabinoid receptor localization in the brain. Proc Natl Acad Sci, USA 87(5):1932–1936, 1990.

    5 Rodriguez de Fonseca F, et al. Activation of cortocotropin-releasing factor in the limbic system during cannabinoid withdrawal. Science 276(5321):2050–2054, 1997.

    6 Diana M, Melis M, Muntoni AL, et al. Mesolimbic dopaminergic decline after cannabinoid withdrawal. Proc Natl Acad Sci 95(17):10269–10273, 1998.

    7 Mittleman MA, Lewis RA, Maclure M, et al. Triggering myocardial infarction by marijuana. Circulation 103(23):2805–2809, 2001.

    8 Polen MR, Sidney S, Tekawa IS, et al. Health care use by frequent marijuana smokers who do not smoke tobacco. West J Med 158(6):596–601, 1993.

    9 Tashkin DP. Pulmonary complications of smoked substance abuse. West J Med 152(5):525–530, 1990.

    10 Zhang ZF, Morgenstern H, Spitz MR, et al. Marijuana use and increased risk of squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck. Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention 8(12):1071–1078, 1999.

    11 Sridhar KS, Raub WA, Weatherby, NL Jr., et al. Possible role of marijuana smoking as a carcinogen in the development of lung cancer at a young age. Journal of Psychoactive Drugs 26(3):285–288, 1994.

    12 Hoffman D, Brunnemann KD, Gori GB, et al. On the carcinogenicity of marijuana smoke. In: VC Runeckles, ed, Recent Advances in Phytochemistry. New York. Plenum, 1975.

    13 Cohen S. Adverse effects of marijuana: Selected issues. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences 362:119–124, 1981.

    14 Adams IB, Martin BR: Cannabis: pharmacology and toxicology in animals and humans. Addiction 91(11):1585–1614, 1996.

    15 Friedman H, Newton C, Klein TW. Microbial infections, immunomodulation, and drugs of abuse. Clin Microbiol Rev 16(2):209–219, 2003.

    16 Zhu LX, Sharma M, Stolina S, et al. Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits an umor immunity by a CB2 receptor-mediated, cytokine-dependent pathway. J Immunology 165(1):373–380, 2000.

    17 Brook JS, Rosen Z, Brook DW. The effect of early marijuana use on later anxiety and depressive symptoms. NYS Psychologist 35–39, January 2001.

    18 Brook JS, Cohen P, Brook DW. Longitudinal study of co-occurring psychiatric disorders and substance use. J Acad Child and Adolescent Psych 37(3):322–330, 1998.

    19 Pope HG, Yurgelun-Todd D. The residual cognitive effects of heavy marijuana use in college students. JAMA 275(7):521–527, 1996.

    20 Block RI, Ghoneim MM. Effects of chronic marijuana use on human cognition. Psychopharmacology 100(1–2):219–228, 1993.

    21 Lynskey M, Hall W. The effects of adolescent cannabis use on educational attainment: A review. Addiction 95(11):1621–1630, 2000.

    22 Kandel DB, Davies M. High school students who use crack and other drugs. Arch Gen Psychiatry 53(1):71–80, 1996.

    23 Rob M, Reynolds I, Finlayson PF. Adolescent marijuana use: Risk factors and implications. Aust NZ J Psychiatry 24(1):45–56, 1990.

    24 Brook JS, Balka EB, Whiteman M. The risks for late adolescence of early adolescent marijuana use. Am J Public Health 89(10):1549–1554, 1999.

    25 Pope HG, Gruber AJ, Hudson JI, et al. Neuropsychological performance in long-term cannabis users. Arch Gen Psychiatry 58(10):909–915, 2001.

    26 Zwerling C, Ryan J, Orav EJ. The efficacy of pre-employment drug screening for marijuana and cocaine in predicting employment outcome. JAMA 264(20):2639–2643, 1990.

    27 Gruber AJ, Pope HG, Hudson JI, et al. Attributes of long-term heavy cannabis users: A case control study. Psychological Medicine 33(8):1415–1422, 2003.

    28 Fried PA, Makin JE. Neonatal behavioural correlates of prenatal exposure to marihuana, cigarettes and alcohol in a low risk population. Neurotoxicology and Teratology 9(1):1–7, 1987.

    29 Lester BM, Dreher M. Effects of marijuana use during pregnancy on newborn crying. Child Development 60(23/24):764–771, 1989.

    30 Fried PA. The Ottawa prenatal prospective study (OPPS): Methodological issues and findings. It’s easy to throw the baby out with the bath water. Life Sciences 56(23–24):2159–2168, 1995.

    31 Fried PA, Smith AM. A literature review of the consequences of prenatal marihuana exposure: An emerging theme of a deficiency in aspects of executive function. Neurotoxicology and Teratology 23(1):1–11, 2001.

    32 Kouri EM, Pope HG, Lukas SE. Changes in aggressive behavior during withdrawal from long-term marijuana use. Psychopharmacology 143(3):302–308, 1999.

    33 Haney M, Ward AS, Comer SD, et al. Abstinence symptoms following smoked marijuana in humans. Psychopharmacology 141(4):395–404, 1999.

    34 Lyons MJ, Toomey R, Meyer JM, et al. How do genes influence marijuana use? The role of subjective effects. Addiction 92(4):409–417, 1997.

    35 These data from the Treatment Episode Data Set (TEDS) 2003: Substance Abuse Treatment Admissions by Primary Substance of Abuse, According to Sex, Age Group, Race, and Ethnicity, funded by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, DHHS. The latest data are available at 800-729-6686 or online at www.samhsa.gov.

    36 Stephens RS, Roffman RA, Curtin L. Comparison of extended versus brief treatments for marijuana use. J Consult Clin Psychol 68(5):898–908, 2000.

    37 Budney AJ, Higgins ST, Radonovich KJ, et al. Adding voucher-based incentives to coping skills and motivational enhancement improves outcomes during treatment for marijuana dependence. J Consult Clin Psychol 68(6):1051–1061, 2000.


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    The heading alone made me laugh so much.

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    IT'S ILLEGAL. I DON'T GIVE A , IT'S AGAINST THE LAW, AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BREAK THE LAW = ANARCHY.

    IF you desire anarchy, by all means make your own country.

    - Mars

    I realize you are just saying what you think is right, but you shouldn't just trust the government blindly....it's not like it's a person you can just know personally...it changes, the people running it change, and they don't always have the same ideas about what's best for the American people as the American people do...because a government isn't the American people...it is a government, and it will never be more. So watch the people.

    It should never just be blindly trusted.



    As for marijuana vs alcohol...


    God made Marijuana...man made alcohol...do not call unclean what he has cleansed.

    One of them is responsible for more deaths than cancer...and the other one is a plant.

    One of them is just about the most psychologically and physically addicting/ health destroying substances consumed by man...and the other one is a plant.

    One of them can kill you if you consume enough of it...and one of them has never been known to cause a single death directly from usage, in the entire hisory of man....it is a plant.




    It's one thing if you don't want to do it, and you know, I respect that. No one should do it they don't want to do it. That said... it's entirely another thing to poise yourself as some kind of expert on it's effects, impacts and then judge people that have used it....


    Because you are analyzing, and judging, from a position of ignorance.


    Just sayin'...


    PS: You've probably used something more destructive and dangerous...and if you haven't, you will some day, the first time you drink a beer. You will also probably someday use something that is illegal if sold on the street, and you'll be getting it from a doctor....probably just because you asked for it.

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    no. just the more reason to burn.


    Still corrupting the lives of youths, I see.

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    Oh and would someone please remind me what this topic has to do with SPURS BASKETBALL?

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    and there was a study last year that showed a decreased risk of lung cancer in marijauna smokers who also smoke cigs, compared to cig smokers alone

    the jury's still out on marijuana because the us govt makes it so damn hard for researchers to do experiments with it. the feds are much more likely to provide marijuana to scientists who they feel are, ahem, more likely to produce the results the feds want.

    and crofl waffle at the poster who assumed that people who smoke marijuana can't understand medical reports. there are a ton of very intelligent pot smokers out there who have very difficult, respectable jobs.

    but as far as smoking and driving goes...much safer than drinking and driving, but if you can't handle your smoke it can really up your attempts to drive (like stopping 30 feet in front of the stoplight because of over-cautiousness and depth perception troubles, rofl)

    jSo please cite your source - and also anything that you can find regarding the effects of cigarettes plus marijuana or either alone.

    Another conspiracy theory - the government may provide the funds for most research in this country but grants are awarded following peer review by fellow scientists and rankings of those grant proposals by the reviewers - nothing more and nothing less.

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    you were probably one of those nerds in high school that nobody would let you smoke with them. ROFL
    I'm of an older generation - marijuana wasn't prevalent when I was growing up.

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    Two separate questions - 1. is marijuana harmful?; 2. Should marijuana be legal?
    I say yes and yes.

    Studies show marijuana can be harmful if abused, much like any other drug but I would argue that the side effects of its abuse are less than that of alcohol which again, is legal. You'll notice that most of the studies listed that tout the harmful effects of marijuana (such as those you listed) concentrate on the heavy users i.e. at least daily users.

    I would argue that most users are not daily users or heavy users. Just because the drug is illegal doesn't mean that the government has it right. Governments get things wrong all the time just as they did with prohibition and alcohol back in the 30s.

    Far too much money and resources are spent lumping cannabis together with meth, coke, heroin etc. and jailing casual users for its use in the name of the "war on drugs" which has been a huge failure. And because of its illegal status combined with the ease of production, marijuana has become a huge financing tool for organized crime just like alcohol during prohibition.

    The drug is far less harmful than it's made out to be and its medicinal purposes help sufferers of MS, parkinsons, cancer and a whole host of other afflictions. You can easily die (and many do) from alcohol poisoning but I've yet to read of anyone dying from a THC (the active chemical in cannabis) overdose.

    Again, can marijuana be harmful - yes. Is there an acceptable risk when used in moderation - yes. Should it be legalized and regulated - yes.

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    Bo Knows Spurs remingtonbo2001's Avatar
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    Completely agree with Two Handed Jam.

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    I'm pretty late to this, but isn't bad for an athlete to smoke in the first place? Tim never looks winded on the court. I thought that would be the first "Clue" he might get high.

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    if he is, at least he keeps it on the down-low....
    has he ever? almost certainly.
    does he regularly? doubt it.... especially during the season.

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    From wiki:

    Legend holds that the founder of the Ottoman Empire, Osman I, had a dream in which the crescent moon stretched from one end of the earth to the other. Taking this as a good omen, he chose to keep the crescent and make it the symbol of his dynasty. There is speculation that the five points on the star represent the five pillars of Islam, but this is pure conjecture.
    Actually, the crescent and star have long been the symbol of the city which lies on the Golden Horn, even before the Turks conquered it. Obviously, when Mehmet the Conqueror captured the New Rome for his capital, he was quite proud of it, and claimed himself and his empire to be the rightful successor to that of the Caesars. So, the crescent-star became his symbol.

    The crescent dates from when the city was called Byzantium, and is in honor of the pagan goddess Diana. The star was added by Roman Emperor Constantine, and represents the Virgin Mary.

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    Thank you Mr. Duncan. May I have another? RussN's Avatar
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    I wasn't assuming about Duncan with malicious intent. At all.

    I'm not some gutter-picking stoner and your almost bigoted hunches are ty. You blatantly assume all potheads are idiots.

    I'm a college graduate almost done with my masters. I work as an architectual drafter doing complex math all day and using complex Cad programs, to create complex ing drawings.

    I'm not going to assume about you or your intellect, but man, you don't know about me, so why don't you do the same and keep your in' mouth shut next time.

    That is weird your boss doesn't drug test you. What is his name and number, maybe I should call him. You might want to smoke all you can now, because when you graduate with your master's degree and get another job you probably will be tested. Then you will have to choose what is more important to you, pot or a good job.

    You are right about not being a normal pothead, you are way too angry for that. Go smoke and chill out.

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    Then you will have to choose what is more important to you, pot or a good job.
    I don't need a new job. I have my career already and finishing my masters is nothing but a technicality. What a ing idiot you are. I've smoked with lawyers, other architects, psychologists. My roomate smokes every ing day and works as an ad-exec. Where do you get the idea that professionals get drug tested more than once when they apply for the job. Hate to break it to you, but unless you operate forklifts or something, you usually don't get tested.

    That is weird your boss doesn't drug test you. What is his name and number, maybe I should call him.
    Not that my boss isn't well aware already and not that he cares one iota, but you probably would have the audacity to interfere with someone else's life like that you meddling . People like you who can't mind your own ing business make me sick.
    Last edited by balli; 04-07-2008 at 07:39 PM.

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    there are a ton of very intelligent pot smokers out there who have very difficult, respectable jobs.
    burr burr burrr burrr


    like what selling potato chips?

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    why is this thread still going?



    and go smoke a joint.

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    Thank you Mr. Duncan. May I have another? RussN's Avatar
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    I don't need a new job. I have my career already and finishing my masters is nothing but a technicality. What a ing idiot you are. I've smoked with lawyers, other architects, psychologists. My roomate smokes every ing day and works as an ad-exec. Where do you get the idea that professionals get drug tested more than once when they apply for the job. Hate to break it to you, but unless you operate forklifts or something, you usually don't get tested.



    Not that my boss isn't well aware already and not that he cares one iota, but you probably would have the audacity to interfere with someone else's life like that you meddling . People like you who can't mind your own ing business make me sick.

    Three points, try to follow.

    1. If you would think of getting your master's degree as furthering your education and expanding your knowledge base, instead of "nothing but a technicality" you might, just might, be better off.

    2. If you are trying to portray an educated person and back up your pot smoking on this forum, you might not want to curse so much. Try using other words besides " ing idiot and meddling ".

    3. Why do you keep editing your posts? Are you high?

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    Never leave home without it!

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