Celtics own NBA, Spurs own Celtics....

[Amare_32]

I hope the Celts win it all this year. That will be great to see Garnett get his ring. I can't think of another player outside of Nash more deserving of that chance.

[Amare_32]

The Magic? Hmmmm...could be interesting for us here in Florida...

Detroit's problem is the mentality of turning it off and on.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The Celtics thrashed the Spurs without Garnett @ home. They then overcame a 22pt deficit on the road without Ray Allen. They play better defense than the Spurs and have a better offense than the Spurs. Barring a complete mental collapse on their part, what the makes you so confident you can beat the Celtics?

Again, regular season games are not comparable with playoffs if you are talking about teams of the caliber of the Spurs who are proven winners.

Last night I watched the celtics beat the hawks and altought they beat them handedly at the end of the game the hawks played with them most of the game. the celtics are totally beatable and still haven't won anything. As the lakers.

[Amare_32]

Again, regular season games are not comparable with playoffs if you are talking about teams of the caliber of the Spurs who are proven winners.

Last night I watched the celtics beat the hawks and altought they beat them handedly at the end of the game the hawks played with them most of the game. the celtics are totally beatable and still haven't won anything. As the lakers.

The Hawks were in the game mostly because of foul trouble for the Celts.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The Celtics are a better team than the Spurs in just about EVERY category imaginable. Spurs are more experienced and have played longer together, but they are not as talented as the Celtics.

I have yet to see the Celtics choke in a single game this entire season. I think they've been handed maybe 1-3 blowout losses as well, when they lose it is usually by a couple points at best. When the game is on the line they have Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Sam Cassell to go to. That's 3 ing clutch shooters. Anyone who thinks the Spurs have a chance, with the way they are playing right now, is a ing dumb homer.

The whole conversation about individuals being more talented than the spurs is just pathetic... how do you quantify that?

isn't parker talented? or Duncan, or Barry or ginobili?

how do you qualify that? is it who jumps higher? who weights more? who has the better frame?

how does it translate into wins? rings? glory?

Not pointed out to you specifically but come on!!!!

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The Hawks were in the game mostly because of foul trouble for the Celts.

Not really, they just played well and had a lot of easy baskets. These are the personal fouls from yesterday games. No problems there.

P.Pierce 4
K.Garnett 3
K.Perkins 3
R.Allen 1
R.Rondo 1
S.Cassell 1
J.Posey 3
L.Powe 4
E.House 0
P.Brown 0
T.Allen 0
G.Davis 1
Total 21

[TampaDude]

Detroit's problem is the mentality of turning it off and on.

Yeah, that's the Pistons' main weakness...they play down to their opponents and get sloppy...that's how they lose games...

[TampaDude]

I hope the Celts win it all this year. That will be great to see Garnett get his ring. I can't think of another player outside of Nash more deserving of that chance.

I agree with you on Garnett...he's awesome...it's just that I hate everything Boston with a passion... the Celtics...

[DazedAndConfused]

Again, regular season games are not comparable with playoffs if you are talking about teams of the caliber of the Spurs who are proven winners.

Last night I watched the celtics beat the hawks and altought they beat them handedly at the end of the game the hawks played with them most of the game. the celtics are totally beatable and still haven't won anything. As the lakers.

The Spurs needed miracle 3pt shots from Duncan and double OT just to beat the Suns AT HOME, they haven't impressed me either.

The Celtics, OTOH, took care of business and obliterated the Hawks by 20+ pts. If that's not impressive you're just a hater or a homer.....probably both.

[TampaDude]

The Spurs needed miracle 3pt shots from Duncan and double OT just to beat the Suns AT HOME, they haven't impressed me either.

The Celtics, OTOH, took care of business and obliterated the Hawks by 20+ pts. If that's not impressive you're just a hater or a homer.....probably both.

If you think the Hawks are anywhere close to the Suns, you're on some serious crickety crack, dude...the Suns would SWEEP the Hawks in a playoff series.

[DazedAndConfused]

I'm just pointing out the irrational hate the Celtics get on here by people who deep down fear them. They have come out and done everything possible to silence haters and they still get flak. It's funny that it comes from Spurs fans, whose team couldn't beat the Celtics without KG and then again at home without Ray Allen.

Celtics play better defense than SAS, they have a better offense, they have mentally tough players, they are clutch, they are deep and have a good bench, and they seem to be very well coached. Most importantly, they are HUNGRIER. If you don't think KG, RA, and PP are hungry for a ring you don't know .

[TampaDude]

If you don't think KG, RA, and PP are hungry for a ring you don't know .

You can say the same about any team in the playoffs. The Celtics are a very good team, but only time will tell if they can translate their regular season success into playoff success and an NBA le...it's not guaranteed...just ask the Mavs...

[Amare_32]

You can say the same about any team in the playoffs. The Celtics are a very good team, but only time will tell if they can translate their regular season success into playoff success and an NBA le...it's not guaranteed...just ask the Mavs...

True but I don't see the Celtics collapsing like the Mavs. You can argue that KG in the past has disappeared in close games but he won't be the one hitting the shots in a tight game. That will be Ray Allen or Pierce.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I'm just pointing out the irrational hate the Celtics get on here by people who deep down fear them. They have come out and done everything possible to silence haters and they still get flak. It's funny that it comes from Spurs fans, whose team couldn't beat the Celtics without KG and then again at home without Ray Allen.

Celtics play better defense than SAS, they have a better offense, they have mentally tough players, they are clutch, they are deep and have a good bench, and they seem to be very well coached. Most importantly, they are HUNGRIER. If you don't think KG, RA, and PP are hungry for a ring you don't know .

Look - every time somebody points out this celtics team hasn't won anyting yet you call us out we are afraid, etc or homers. you just compared the celtics victory over the hawks with the spurs victory over the suns. There's nothing to compare about those 2 matches. You are kidding yourself.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

True but I don't see the Celtics collapsing like the Mavs. You can argue that KG in the past has disappeared in close games but he won't be the one hitting the shots in a tight game. That will be Ray Allen or Pierce.

You could have said the same about the mavs before they lost against GS last year.

Comparing regular season games is mute point. Mute point.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Celtics play better defense than SAS, they have a better offense, they have mentally tough players, they are clutch, they are deep and have a good bench, and they seem to be very well coached. Most importantly, they are HUNGRIER. If you don't think KG, RA, and PP are hungry for a ring you don't know .

Nobody is hungrier than the spurs to repeat. Mark my words. They showed huge resilience against adversity this past weekend and they know what they have to do to win.

[Amare_32]

You could have said the same about the mavs before they lost against GS last year.

Comparing regular season games is mute point. Mute point.

Actually I picked the Warriors to win that series. The Mavs got owned by Wade in the Finals in 06.

[Amare_32]

Nobody is hungrier than the spurs to repeat. Mark my words. They showed huge resilience against adversity this past weekend and they know what they have to do to win.

The Spurs are still the Champs but thier road to the Finals is tougher then Boston's.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The Spurs are still the Champs but thier road to the Finals is tougher then Boston's.

No arguing that point sincerely - wining it all for the spurs this year would be the epitome of dynasty.

[DazedAndConfused]

I dunno I think 3 superstars who have NEVER won a ring would be just a little bit hungrier for a ring compared to a team that's won 4. But that's not an argument either of us can prove or disprove.

So let's focus on the things that matter. Defense, Celtics play better defense than the Spurs. There is no disputing this, they are better in just about every statistical category and don't really seem to have any weaknesses on defense. Offensively I don't think they are as dominant, but they are still a much better offensive team than the Spurs. You won't see the Celtics put up 11 pts in a quarter like the Spurs.

You're only argument is playoff experience. Well let me tell you something, PHX has all the playoff experience in the world and that didn't stop them from making several idiotic decisions in the clutch. What's more important is having players on the floor with high basketball intelligence and mental toughness. Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Sam Cassell......you can't really go wrong with this trio to close games out. Sure Garnett has choked before but the pressure is no longer on him, just like the pressure is no longer on Gasol now. So really you have no leg to stand on as far as your argument goes and if the Spurs and Celtics face off in the Finals I'll be laughing my ass off when the Spurs get sent home ringless again in another even year.

[TampaDude]

I dunno I think 3 superstars who have NEVER won a ring would be just a little bit hungrier for a ring compared to a team that's won 4. But that's not an argument either of us can prove or disprove.

So let's focus on the things that matter. Defense, Celtics play better defense than the Spurs. There is no disputing this, they are better in just about every statistical category and don't really seem to have any weaknesses on defense. Offensively I don't think they are as dominant, but they are still a much better offensive team than the Spurs. You won't see the Celtics put up 11 pts in a quarter like the Spurs.

You're only argument is playoff experience. Well let me tell you something, PHX has all the playoff experience in the world and that didn't stop them from making several idiotic decisions in the clutch. What's more important is having players on the floor with high basketball intelligence and mental toughness. Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Sam Cassell......you can't really go wrong with this trio to close games out. Sure Garnett has choked before but the pressure is no longer on him, just like the pressure is no longer on Gasol now. So really you have no leg to stand on as far as your argument goes and if the Spurs and Celtics face off in the Finals I'll be laughing my ass off when the Spurs get sent home ringless again in another even year.

We'll just have to wait and see...

[Amare_32]

I dunno I think 3 superstars who have NEVER won a ring would be just a little bit hungrier for a ring compared to a team that's won 4. But that's not an argument either of us can prove or disprove.

So let's focus on the things that matter. Defense, Celtics play better defense than the Spurs. There is no disputing this, they are better in just about every statistical category and don't really seem to have any weaknesses on defense. Offensively I don't think they are as dominant, but they are still a much better offensive team than the Spurs. You won't see the Celtics put up 11 pts in a quarter like the Spurs.

You're only argument is playoff experience. Well let me tell you something, PHX has all the playoff experience in the world and that didn't stop them from making several idiotic decisions in the clutch. What's more important is having players on the floor with high basketball intelligence and mental toughness. Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Sam Cassell......you can't really go wrong with this trio to close games out. Sure Garnett has choked before but the pressure is no longer on him, just like the pressure is no longer on Gasol now. So really you have no leg to stand on as far as your argument goes and if the Spurs and Celtics face off in the Finals I'll be laughing my ass off when the Spurs get sent home ringless again in another even year.

That whole thing about their playoff experience is moot to me. Garnett,Pierce,Allen they have not been to the Finals granted but they have plenty of postseason experience. All 3 have been in the Conference Finals. Cassell and Posey have won les.

[Gant]

Not really, they just played well and had a lot of easy baskets. These are the personal fouls from yesterday games. No problems there.

P.Pierce 4
K.Garnett 3
K.Perkins 3
R.Allen 1
R.Rondo 1
S.Cassell 1
J.Posey 3
L.Powe 4
E.House 0
P.Brown 0
T.Allen 0
G.Davis 1
Total 21

Perkins and Garnett both left the game earlier than usual in the first half with foul trouble. They just didn't pick up any after that.

It did temporarily affect the Celtics rotation and the Hawks took advantage for their only run. Also Powe played nervously in his first stint of his first playoff game. He started to look like himself in the second half though.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I dunno I think 3 superstars who have NEVER won a ring would be just a little bit hungrier for a ring compared to a team that's won 4. But that's not an argument either of us can prove or disprove.

So let's focus on the things that matter. Defense, Celtics play better defense than the Spurs. There is no disputing this, they are better in just about every statistical category and don't really seem to have any weaknesses on defense. Offensively I don't think they are as dominant, but they are still a much better offensive team than the Spurs. You won't see the Celtics put up 11 pts in a quarter like the Spurs.

You're only argument is playoff experience. Well let me tell you something, PHX has all the playoff experience in the world and that didn't stop them from making several idiotic decisions in the clutch. What's more important is having players on the floor with high basketball intelligence and mental toughness. Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Sam Cassell......you can't really go wrong with this trio to close games out. Sure Garnett has choked before but the pressure is no longer on him, just like the pressure is no longer on Gasol now. So really you have no leg to stand on as far as your argument goes and if the Spurs and Celtics face off in the Finals I'll be laughing my ass off when the Spurs get sent home ringless again in another even year.

As I said in another post and to summarize this a little bit: regular season discussion is mute at this point. We'll see which team is the best in june.

[Amare_32]

Perkins and Garnett both left the game earlier than usual in the first half with foul trouble. They just didn't pick up any after that.

It did temporarily affect the Celtics rotation and the Hawks took advantage for their only run. Also Powe played nervously in his first stint of his first playoff game. He started to look like himself in the second half though.

What should worry Atlanta is the Celtics did not played that great and still won by +20.