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    Hey, You! I got your she!

    Nothing has been brought but the same over and over, Phil did it! Nellie did it! Blah, blah,...which has nothing to do with the spurs use of it. Hack a shaq in the first half, hack a shaq in the 3rd quarter while ahead, hack a shaq to get the other team out of rhythm,...blah, blah, blah,...phil and others used it in the 4th quarter while behind. That's no secret, you foul anybody at that point. The objective is to foul the worst freethrow shooter, if you can use the hack a shaq to foul them. Go for it! To do it in the 1st half and the 3rd quarter is just "GAY"! Everybody outside of Texas thinks so. It's no surprise though, after all you practice the Brokeback Mountain way of living there. Something Gay is right up your alley!
    case closed. just like your litte mind. Apparently theres a specific time frame that you have to use certain coaching strategies. WOW...that is ridiculous......your argument & stance hold no weight. you got nothing but .....

    but i will give you a suggestion on this..... you say everyone outside of texas hates it......wheres your support?
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    He is right though. It's a gay strategy. If you open up any NBA playbook to the page with Hack a Shaq on it doesn't have X's and O's like a normal play should in accordance with God's will. Instead it ten X's on the diagram. And they are all ing each other.

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    Hey, You! I got your she!

    Nothing has been brought but the same over and over, Phil did it! Nellie did it! Blah, blah,...which has nothing to do with the spurs use of it. Hack a shaq in the first half, hack a shaq in the 3rd quarter while ahead, hack a shaq to get the other team out of rhythm,...blah, blah, blah,...phil and others used it in the 4th quarter while behind. That's no secret, you foul anybody at that point. The objective is to foul the worst freethrow shooter, if you can use the hack a shaq to foul them. Go for it! To do it in the 1st half and the 3rd quarter is just "GAY"! Everybody outside of Texas thinks so. It's no surprise though, after all you practice the Brokeback Mountain way of living there. Something Gay is right up your alley!
    Really? Go check arizonasportsfans, even most Suns fans thought it was fine.

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    To do Hack-A-Shaq while UP 6 pts in the 3rd quarter is most definitely pathetic. Even MANU GINOBLI himself said he was surprised that Pop was asking them to do it. That should tell you all you need to know about how desperate Pop is to win.

    I would hope the NBA cracks down on that in the off-season. Just make intentional fouling a free throw plus the ball.

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    To do Hack-A-Shaq while UP 6 pts in the 3rd quarter is most definitely pathetic. Even MANU GINOBLI himself said he was surprised that Pop was asking them to do it. That should tell you all you need to know about how desperate Pop is to win.

    I would hope the NBA cracks down on that in the off-season. Just make intentional fouling a free throw plus the ball.
    again, doing it while UP, was a challenge to d'antoni to see what he would do. coaching is like a game of chess, you have to plan for moves in the future.

    call it pathetic, call it gay, call it anything you friggin want to call it, but at the end of the day, you can call it a WIN.

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    To do Hack-A-Shaq while UP 6 pts in the 3rd quarter is most definitely pathetic. Even MANU GINOBLI himself said he was surprised that Pop was asking them to do it. That should tell you all you need to know about how desperate Pop is to win.

    I would hope the NBA cracks down on that in the off-season. Just make intentional fouling a free throw plus the ball.
    Translation:

    The Spurs are too good. Find a way to make them beatable by changing all the rules to their disadvantage.

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    This is what all these stupid complaints boil down to. I guess this is what you have to deal with when you're at the top of the league.

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    I'm not arguing its effectiveness.

    The Spurs and their fans have always prided themselves on being above cheap tactics and strategies. Pop doing something like this really shows how desperate he is to win. I think he knows this is the last shot the Spurs have at a le. They have one player under the age of 30, several are literally on their last legs and will retire next season, and they have absolutely no developing young talent to speak of (and no international players that haven't played one minute of NBA basketball don't count). It's going to take at least a year or two to re-develop the role players and by then the Big 3 will be on the decline. In other words, this is it.

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    BTW, we've beat two of Shaq's team in the Post-season before without using hack-a-shaq.

    At the end of the day, it's ring or no ring, and all of the other is forgotten, except by the envious.

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    ^Exactly, it's ring or no ring. This is it for SAS. Pop knows the history books won't remember him using hack-a-shaq, only the fact that he won ring #5 will be remembered if the Spur win.

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    I'm not arguing its effectiveness.

    The Spurs and their fans have always prided themselves on being above cheap tactics and strategies. Pop doing something like this really shows how desperate he is to win. I think he knows this is the last shot the Spurs have at a le. They have one player under the age of 30, several are literally on their last legs and will retire next season, and they have absolutely no developing young talent to speak of (and no international players that haven't played one minute of NBA basketball don't count). It's going to take at least a year or two to re-develop the role players and by then the Big 3 will be on the decline. In other words, this is it.
    It's his fault that he isn't good at them. The fact tof the matter is, you are blaming the Spurs for using this tactic when it's Shaq's fault for not preventing it from being used.

    Why should the Spurs (or any other team) be penalized for another player's laziness?

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    Shaq is the one making the NBA look ridiculous when he goes to the line and can't hit a free basket when he's a pro.

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    I'm not arguing it's effectiveness.

    I'm just saying what every other fan is thinking. It's downright silly to see Shaq trying to outrun players as they rush to foul him. It stops the flow of the game and ruins the spirit of compe ive basketball. Just because it is a legal strategy doesn't make it acceptable IMHO. I really hope the NBA finally puts the clamps on this strategy and makes it a one-shot plus the ball penalty.

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    Penalize the Spurs for the oppositions ignorance to a rule (last year) and penalize them for the oppositions laziness (this year).

    All of this points to the fact the fans of opposing teams want things easier.

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    I'm not arguing it's effectiveness.

    I'm just saying what every other fan is thinking. It's downright silly to see Shaq trying to outrun players as they rush to foul him. It stops the flow of the game and ruins the spirit of compe ive basketball. Just because it is a legal strategy doesn't make it acceptable IMHO. I really hope the NBA finally puts the clamps on this strategy and makes it a one-shot plus the ball penalty.
    Again, you are ignoring the fact that Shaq makes the damn tactic fortuitous in the first place.

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    The rule is supposed to encourage practice, not laziness.

    It's this same laziness that destroyed a great Laker team, and why the Laker fans get on their knees to suck Shaq's when he was responsible for it, I have no clue.

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    The reason Shaq can't shoot free throws is not because he doesn't practice them.

    He suffered a childhood injury to his wrist that has never full recovered. It limits his range of motion and makes it very difficult to get any sort of ball rotation. You also need to factor in the fact that his hands are probably twice the size of the ball, it's like one of us trying to shoot with a golf ball. He has been on 4 different teams and has had countless shooting coaches try and help him, it just ain't gonna happen.

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    The reason Shaq can't shoot free throws is not because he doesn't practice them.

    He suffered a childhood injury to his wrist that has never full recovered. It limits his range of motion and makes it very difficult to get any sort of ball rotation. You also need to factor in the fact that his hands are probably twice the size of the ball, it's like one of us trying to shoot with a golf ball. He has been on 4 different teams and has had countless shooting coaches try and help him, it just ain't gonna happen.
    cry me a ing river Who gives a . Make your damn free throws. Its a fundemental part of the game.

    What, new rules just because Shaq can't make his free throws???

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    Look I could care less about Shaq, but you keep saying he doesn't practice free throws which is false. He does, he just sucks at them. And that's not why I oppose hack-a-shaq.

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    Well then thats Shaq's problem if he tries to practice them but he cant get it!

    Dont you think Pau Gasol practices defense during the off season for countless hours? Doesnt mean hes gonna be any good at it.. who gives a if he practices if he doesnt get any good at it... thats still going to be his deficciency like Shaq has with free-throws.

    Lets all change the rule for Shaq because he really does try and get better.... but e just cant seem to get it... but hey he practices so lets change the rules

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    My opposition to Hack-a-Shaq has nothing to do with Shaq's inability to shoot free throws. Get a clue you ing idiots.

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    Shaq is the one making the NBA look ridiculous when he goes to the line and can't hit a free basket when he's a pro.
    Rick Barry offered to teach Shaq how to do the diaper shot and Barry averaged in the 90% mark for free throws... Shaq refused to consider it. He said he'd rather miss every one than attempt it... What a guy. How many more wins might have resulted if he put his inflated ego aside. He sucks!

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    I'm not arguing it's effectiveness.

    I'm just saying what every other fan is thinking. It's downright silly to see Shaq trying to outrun players as they rush to foul him. It stops the flow of the game and ruins the spirit of compe ive basketball. Just because it is a legal strategy doesn't make it acceptable IMHO. I really hope the NBA finally puts the clamps on this strategy and makes it a one-shot plus the ball penalty.
    I also think it is down right silly for teams to run Shaq off the floor because he can't run with them. Team should stop running fast breaks on Shaq to make him look like a fool.

    All the teams should really play nice and not expose other team's weaknesses. If a player can't shoot a jumper, you shouldn't pack the lanes like what the Lakers did to Parker in 2004, you just can't force your opposition to do something they can't do, even those that are within the rule books.

    The Spurs are being jerks in forcing Boris Diaw to beat them down in the blocks, haven't they heard that he can't finish? Neither should they go at Nash and Stoudemire when those two were on defense, they can't play D! And it is down right silly to see Stoudemire and Nash trying to defend as their man try to score on them.

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    The reason Shaq can't shoot free throws is not because he doesn't practice them.

    He suffered a childhood injury to his wrist that has never full recovered. It limits his range of motion and makes it very difficult to get any sort of ball rotation. You also need to factor in the fact that his hands are probably twice the size of the ball, it's like one of us trying to shoot with a golf ball. He has been on 4 different teams and has had countless shooting coaches try and help him, it just ain't gonna happen.
    I also suffer from a childhood genetic disorder that doesn't allow me to grow to 7 feet tall and being athletic. NBA teams should sign me up, then force the league to change the rules so that it would make it fair to me to be able to do exactly what the Duncans and the James can do in the league.

    However, they don't have to change the hack-a-shaq rule, because I can hit FTs > half the time.

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