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i think spurs should trade tiagos rights for okafor
CSKA Moscow vs. Tau Vitoria
This one looked like a much slower, more thought out game than the up and down pace of the previous game. Tau Vitoria jumped ahead to a surprising 39-33 lead in the first 20 minutes, mainly behind the inside presence of Tiago Splitter (10 points, and 6 missed free throws), and the surprisingly aggressive play of Zoran Planinic. Ramunas Siskauskas carried CSKA early, making shots and creating opportunities for Matjaz Smodis, but foul trouble limited his play, as well as Langdon’s—with 3 fouls each. Tau’s defense did a great job early on of forcing CSKA into taking bad shots, and the Russians clearly lacked a spark off the bench from their once great playmaker, Theo Papaloukas. He’s been fairly invisible so far, not trying to initiate anything, and clearly lacking the athleticism to get by anyone or finish when he did. This was not a pretty game in the first half, and the atmosphere clearly fell off a bit once Maccabi’s fans exited the building to begin the celebrations. CSKA is relying too heavily on JR Holden to carry them offensively, which is making them a bit predictable.
The second half was an all-out war, as both teams pounded on each other incessantly inside, on every drive, post-up and box-out for rebound, while there were only so many fouls that the ref could have called. David Andersen was excellent for CSKA, scoring 12 points in the half (16 total) on a series of mid-range jumpers, being particularly clutch in the closing minutes when his team took the lead and held onto it until the very end. He played nearly the entire second half, and did not miss a shot inside the arc the entire game, going 8-8 from the field. His last basket might have been his biggest, a huge put-back dunk off an offensive rebound to put CSKA up by 7 with just over a minute to go. We wondered if the Hawks would be here, and indeed the man responsible for drafting him seven years back, Mark Crow, was in attendance and looked quite pleased with the way he played, as he should have been. Theodoros Papaloukas woke up in the second half, reeling off 8 points to finish with 10, and stringing together two huge transition baskets in the fourth quarter that were extremely important to his team’s win. Ramunas Siskauskas finished with a “quiet” 16 points, always within the flow of his offense, slaloming in between defenders and finishing either hand, knocking down shots, drawing plenty of fouls and knocking down 7 of his 8 shots from the line, including two huge ones at the very end to seal the game.
The final score was 83-79 CSKA. The Russians are going to the Euroleague final for the third straight year in a row. This is their sixth straight appearance in the Final Four. They had five players finish with double digit scoring. Tiago Splitter had 17 points for Tau on 5-7 shooting from the field. He was terrific with his back to the basket inside, commanding double teams and finding the open man, using nice pivot moves and even hitting a pretty swooping hook shot in the lane. Maybe the 7-14 he shot from the free throw line will convince him to work on getting rid of the ugly hitch he has in his mechanics from the line, but regardless, there is no question that the San Antonio Spurs got a huge stud—a player worthy of a top 10 pick fall to them at the end of the first round. Zoran Planinic was solid with 17 points, and Igor Rakocevic had 19.
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i think spurs should trade tiagos rights for okafor
Splitter's rookie contract >>>>>>>> Okafor's fat contract
A poor man's scola?
Just ing die already.
lets hope his not a fukn bust like that trash in toronto you call banana
Comparing a pick at 28, to the number 1 overall pick.
Genius !!!
a poor man's Scola !
Did you ever see him play ?
Splitter has a very polished offensive game, seems to be good on defense, is quick and YOUNG.
Damn that kid is gonna be exciting to watch next year.
Hopefully Pop gives him a shot at the starting 5.
Tiago has interesting potential and seems to have bulked up since last year.
If he can get spurs system fast enough, he'll be able to produce quickly next year.
it will be an upgrade at the C position anyway.
I can see a good double T (Tim and Tiago) combo next year in the paint for SA.
It appears to be another steal for the FO and I understand that they were Schocked that splitter was still avalaible when their turn to pick came during the last draft.
The Spurs are gonna score a couple of athletic bigs (Ian and Splitter) who in time will be able to guard the rim and make it tough to get to the basket against the Spurs. Three mobile seven footers will rock next year.
Essentially the Spurs will have 3 #1 draft choices next year. They need the new blood.
Chip the shooting coach will also have some new students.
The highest draft pick the Spurs have had in the last 11 years (since TD went #1) has been 24 or 26. What an amazing job of putting together a compe ive roster for all this time.
Duncan is awesome, but even he can't do it all by himself.
The priority now is to get some wings.
Fin, Barry and Horry are probably gone by next year. With that money and picks, they may be able to sign one proven NBA player and a younger one.
Can Splitter out flop Varejao to win the Brazilian diving championship?
That would be difficult. TS must be good at it if he can approach the realm of flopping.
^You should have seen him flop yesterday. I was impressed.
One of these days, Could you see putting Ian on the floor against a long 3 along with Splitter and Tim against the Mavs?
Front lines: Duncan, Splitter, Ian vs. Howard, Dampier, Dirk.
among the tall trees.
Ian has no real perimeter skills to speak of. His shooting range is about 16 feet, and I haven't seen him shoot that enough to call it reliable. I don't see his playing SF if anyone else is available.
#1. It's not hsi first ever playoff series...if you didn't have your head up Scola's ass you'd know he has impressive resume of chokes in Europe.
#2. Up until last night(which incidentally was a loss), Scola was shooting 41% carrying the inside scoring load for the Rockets and getting a ton of garbage baskets.
That's only a good FG%, if your name is Allen Iverson. Dum .
It's complete for a PF paired with a dominant player(albeit a fellow choker) like Tracy MaGrady.
And I hate to tell you this...but the Rockets got eliminated in the first round just fine last year...without Scola, by the exact same team.
What did Scola add to this team? Not jack ...they could have been eliminated in the first round just fine without him...
Why don't you just shut the up...you've brought nothing to this board but an incomparable amount whining and stupidity...and the day you leave this board the quality will increase ten fold.just shut the up
TPark threatening to leave the board for a year and then renegging is like a million times more entertaining and insightful than the combined postings of yours on this board...
You actually make me look forward to reading posts by boutons...even in the political forum.
In short...why don't you go devote the rest of your life to sucking Scola's nuts and leave this board a better place with you gone.
You suck...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart...the day you stop posting here will be one of the best days in the history of this board.
So why don't you just shut the up...and go take your ing act to a Rocketboard with the other Rockets fans, and celebrate managing to make a game 7 in the first round, thanks to Luis "the difference "Scola...where you belong.
Luis Scola made...no ing difference at all. None. You sir need to shut the up...and stop making this board stupider with your presence.
Back to Splitter, I saw him work more in the low post more than I had seen before. His footwork is pretty good and he goes into his moves quickly. One thing that will work in both Tiago and Ian's favor initially is that they won't receive the same amount of defensive attention and double teams they have in the other leagues.
No...he's 6 ing years younger than Scola is what he is...and as good or close to it.
but I'll take him
Here ya go...
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/
Take him...
Imagine if you stopped posting here and posted at Rocketboard...Imagine if the Spurs kept him
Spurs big man rotation: Duncan/Scola/Oberto/Splitter/Ian
God damn that would be amazing
Just think...if we had Scola last year, we migth have won a le...
Just think..if the Rockets had Scola...they might have got eliminated in the first round..by the Jazz...just like last year. With HCA...unlike last year.
I know...if only Yao had been healthy...and they had LeBron, Kobe, Duncan PArker, Nash Dirk...and Jordan Magic, Bird and Wilt in their primes...they'd have won a le this yea or at least made it out of the first round, because Scola is that ing good.
Becuase Scola makes that kind of difference...you think PF's that shoot 44% grow on trees? no...I doubt there's more than one or two starting PF in the playoffs shooting 44%.
And just imagine how good Scola is going to be next year....when he's pushing 30 and not just out of kindergarten, a rookie with no experience...like he is this year.
@ whottt
Splitter is in the all Euroleague first team. Congrats to him.
http://www.euroleague.net/item/31740
The top Euroleague Basketball players of the 2007-08 season were honored at the Euroleague Basketball Awards Ceremony at the Circo Price in central Madrid attended by a world basketball elite, including many of the legends spending the weekend at the 2008 Final Four as part of the year-long 50 Years of European Club Basketball celebration. Each of the award winners received their trophy from one of the 50 greatest personalities honored at Friday’s special ceremony. The event was highlighted by the selection of Ramunas Siskauskas as MVP for the season. Siskauskas received his trophy from another former MVP, Toni Kukoc. In addition to Siskauskas, the All-Euroleague First Team also included, at point guard, Terrell McIntyre of Montepaschi Siena; at shooting guard/small forward, Trajan Langdon of CSKA; and at power forward/center, Terrence Morris of Maccabi Elite and Tiago Splitter of Tau Ceramica. The All-Euroleague First Team trophies were handed out by Dejan Bodiroga and Arvydas Sabonis. All five first-team selections came from teams that qualified for the Final Four. CSKA’s Langdon is the only repeat selection on the first team, while Siskauskas was a second-team choice last season.
Define a choker, if, for you, a choker is a guy that has never won anything then you should say that Nowitzki, Iverson, Garnett, James, Splitter, etc. are chokers but not Scola, that not only won the most important tournament of his life, but he also was the leading scorer of that team (Olympics with Argentina)
Go ask Rockets fans who was, in their opinion, the best or 2nd best player of the team in the playoffs.#2. Up until last night(which incidentally was a loss), Scola was shooting 41% carrying the inside scoring load for the Rockets and getting a ton of garbage baskets.
The Rockets were missing Yao and Alston, and they still managed to extend the series to 6 games. And if Alston'd had played the first two games and the second half of last night game, the Rockets'd have won the series.And I hate to tell you this...but the Rockets got eliminated in the first round just fine last year...without Scola, by the exact same team.
What did Scola add to this team? Not jack ...they could have been eliminated in the first round just fine without him...
Why don't you realize that (when you talk about Scola) you're doing the same thing: talking bull and irritating other people. You could just admit that he's a good player and that the Spurs made a mistake letting him go 'cause he isn't expensive, he doesn't have at ude issues, Duncan and Scola can easily play together, and it'd have been great to have Manu, Oberto, Splitter and Scola playing together.Why don't you just shut the up...you've brought nothing to this board but an incomparable amount whining and stupidity...and the day you leave this board the quality will increase ten fold.
TPark threatening to leave the board for a year and then renegging is like a million times more entertaining and insightful than the combined postings of yours on this board...
You actually make me look forward to reading posts by boutons...even in the political forum.
In short...why don't you go devote the rest of your life to sucking Scola's nuts and leave this board a better place with you gone.
You suck...and I mean that from the bottom of my heart...the day you stop posting here will be one of the best days in the history of this board.
So why don't you just shut the up...and go take your ing act to a Rocketboard with the other Rockets fans, and celebrate managing to make a game 7 in the first round, thanks to Luis "the difference "Scola...where you belong.
Luis Scola made...no ing difference at all. None. You sir need to shut the up...and stop making this board stupider with your presence.
You could admit all of those things and still say that is very stupid to 'bout the Scola trade, or you could just say the second part but you can't bash him and talk nonsense just because the Spurs didn't get him. And if you want to do it then you just need to accept that you're going to have people contradicting your stupid comments.
Way to kick your own ass there...haven't been watching basketball very long eh?
Obviously, since Scola won a gold medal, that's not good enough for me now is it?
Judging by the Olympics...Tim Duncan is an incompetent basketball player...and by your definition...he is a choker, because he has no gold medal...
So obviously...the Olympic tournament is not my judge now is it? I don't consider the Olympics to be a big deal...I know you do, but obviously it's not that big of deal to you either or you wouldn't have called Garnett(who has an Olympic Gold Medal) a choker...
Go ask Rockets fans who was, in their opinion, the best or 2nd best player of the team in the playoffs.
Ok...who was, in your opinion, the best or 2nd best player for the team in the playoffs?
Let me guess...you think it was Scola...however, since you have already kicked your own ass in the knowledge department...hopefully you'll now understand why I don't give Rocketfan's opinion much credence.
The Rockets were missing Yao and Alston, and they still managed to extend the series to 6 games. And if Alston'd had played the first two games and the second half of last night game, the Rockets'd have won the series.
If? If?
No if...in your opinion. You, who have already kicked your own ass in this argument.
Why don't you realize that (when you talk about Scola) you're doing the same thing: talking bull and irritating other people.
Tough ...
Scola, him all day long, him all night long...
Don't like it...I suggest you go to a Rocketboard, because here, this is a Spurboard, and Rocketplayers are going to get trashed.
It's ironic how Scola has a huge amount of dumbass and unknowledgable fans on this board...and the more I argue with them the more convinced I become I'm right.
I don't think he's that good of a player. That's why I am not going to admit that.You could just admit that he's a good player and
I don't think the Spurs made a mistake letting him go, that's why I am not going to admit that.that the Spurs made a mistake letting him go
Don't care. That's why I am not going to admit that.'cause he isn't expensive,
IMO he does. And if you'd been a basketball prior to 2003, you'd know why.he doesn't have at ude issues,
Who can't play easily with Tim Duncan?Duncan and Scola can easily play together,
and it'd have been great to have Manu, Oberto, Splitter and Scola playing together.
Not for me it wouldn't have been...I'm glad ing Scola's not on this team...I am glad the Spurs got rid of him...now I'd just like Spurttalk to get rid of his fans or at least get them out of the main forum.
I just don't understand why Scola fans don't go to Rocketboards to talk about this overrated POS with other people who love him.
And you could admit that my opinion is right...You could admit all of those things and still say that is very stupid to 'bout the Scola trade,
I mean...Scola is the guy who is already done playing...I know, if only he and TMac had LeBron they'd have won.
That's about the stupidest ing argument I've ever heard.
I should agree with you because it's your opinion?
Tell you what...try not to kick your own ass in arguments in your opening statement and maybe I'll start to respect your opinion more.
In lieu of that...I'm going to continue to think I know more about basketball than you do...I'm going to continue to think that you, like 90% of the Scola fans, didn't even watch basketball prior to about 2002( and the way you kicked your own ass by saying Garnett didn't have a gold medal would seem to indicate I'm right).
Make a non stupid argument and maybe I will respect your opinion...otherwise, I don't see a whole lot of difference between you and SpursDynasty21 and ArgScolaFan, two of the biggest dumbasses on this board, who incidentally, are also 2 of the biggest Scola fans...
I'm not contraditcing myself...you're the one using gold medals as examples of clutchness and kicking your own ass in the process.or you could just say the second part but you can't bash him and talk nonsense just because the Spurs didn't get him. And if you want to do it then you just need to accept that you're going to have people contradicting your stupid comments.
Last edited by whottt; 05-03-2008 at 10:14 PM.
Anyway...I realize you Scola fans are hoping aginst hope that the Spurs lose and fail to repeat, so you can talk about what a difference Scola would have made and how knowledgable you are...
So I'll let you get back to doing that...
Try to remember that this is a Spursboard, not a Rocketboard and not to bring that piece of up in threads that don't concern him in the future would you?
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