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    CP3 has flopped more than the entire Spurs team in the first 2 games..



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    This ranks right up there with some of the dumbest threads I've ever read. Either back up your statements or don't bother.

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    Shoot the ball straight. Put the ball in the hole more than your opponents and you win. the refs they all suck but it's even. The Jazz series with the Rockets was just ugly and the refs sucked on both sides. But the Jazz are the highest fouling team in the NBA. If we make a higher percentage of our shots I don't care how many times they foul, flop, or cheat. We win

    Simple

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    97 freethrows in 6 games for Dwyane Wade in 2006 finals...

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    We would have lost Game 2 with favorable officiating.

    That said, I STILL cannot comprehend how Garnett was not even punished for shoving a ref. If that's ANYONE not on the Celtics, he's riding the pine for at least a game.

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    Follow the money. The game is entertainment and whatever keeps the dollars rolling in is important. It's clear that the treatment of superstars and developing superstars is important. In his heyday, who wanted to watch Shaq sit on the bench after bulling his way to the basket or using his forearms to push a defender out of the way?

    Certainly not the networks or the league brass.

    Re the changing of the guard: Duncan and Shaq both see less foul calls going their way as they get to the end of their careers. They will get more fouls called against them and fewer fouls called against the players guarding them, especially if the opposing player is a coming star.

    Bull you say? Well, no one ever doubts--including TV commentators--that rookies get fewer calls for them and more calls against them than veterans, especially veteran stars? We all assume that the refs call the game a little differently when it comes to rookies. What's the difference between not calling the game evenly for rookies and cutting down on the protection and preferences given to aging superstars who no longer have as much dollar value?

    The idea that refs always call an even-handed game is a myth. Whether they are instructed to do so by superiors is a question. They may simply do it on their own or get the 'word' through intuition. I wouldn't be surprised if some subtle hints aren't thrown around by the TV execs.

    Whatever the reason, there is pressure on the refs to call em like the money men see 'em instead of how they see 'em.

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    welcome to the NBA. do refs receive "instructions"? of course they do. They also do this in FIFA. nothing new

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    This is so stupid. Please don't give spur fans a bad name. The big 3 have sucked, they have sucked hard. That is why we are down 0-2.

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    I just laugh at people dismissing someone who might know more than you about internal sources within the high spheres of power in the NBA.

    After watching the last few minutes of last night's game between the Celtics and the Cavs I can start believing what's been said about the Celtics having a free pass.

    If you have any doubts, just watch the game again and please tell me Lebron didn't get hacked and nobody called anything.

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    This is so stupid. Please don't give spur fans a bad name. The big 3 have sucked, they have sucked hard. That is why we are down 0-2.
    For you an others, I don't think he tried to justified the pussiness the Spurs have played with the last 2 games. I don't think he meant it that way.

    I don't think this thread has anything to do with why the spurs lost. If it was true they have green light to hack Duncan, still I don't think he meant to say that's the reason why the Spurs lost. We all know why the Spurs lost.

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    Well if the Hornet and Spurs games were close then maybe I would kind of agree. But screw that the Spurs have not been showing up at all in the second half. The refs do not really matter when you are getting blown out by 20 with 2 minutes left to go. I just laugh that people might believe its the refs fault at this point. Spurs did this to themselves.

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    The only conspiracy in the NBA this year was the Gasol trade.

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    This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. The Hugo the Hornet-Gate conspiracy just puts it right over the edge.

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    For you an others, I don't think he tried to justified the pussiness the Spurs have played with the last 2 games. I don't think he meant it that way.

    I don't think this thread has anything to do with why the spurs lost. If it was true they have green light to hack Duncan, still I don't think he meant to say that's the reason why the Spurs lost. We all know why the Spurs lost.
    oh ok. Yeah I just believe the Spurs have been blowing bad! I haven't seen other close games lately because of finals. I guess i will be more observant

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    BTW... the first story came from a friend of the family of one of the parties involved. Family talks to family. Not only do I trust the source, but it rings true.

    The other thing I heard this evening, but haven't been able to confirm yet is that the "hoop of fire" wasn't scheduled to happen between the 1st and 2nd quarters. But the game was getting out of hand, and they wanted to let things coold down a little bit. It was supposed to be a stall.

    They would have been out there for another couple of minutes, "trying" to put out the fire with those CO2 extinguishers, before using them correctly. Unfortunately, one of the members of the Fire Department didn't know it was a stall, and broke out the chemical extinguisher. And the whole thing just got out of hand.

    But if the story is correct, the schedule was changed and it was for the purpose of stalling...just not 20 minutes worth.
    Seriously. Think about these things before you write them. I don't care who you heard it from - that's the most insane, ludicrous bunch of bull anyone could ever imagine.

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    wow you are a stupid .

    even though this is a stupid thread, you are even stupider.

    he said multiple times that he "heard" it from someone.

    "heard"

    it means to receive sound via the ears

    stupid

    not everything happens on the internets

    stupid
    Don't post hearsay as fact unless you name your source. If there isnt a link then its B.S. or name your source but dont expect readers to think there is any credibility to it.

    Got it

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    I think the spurs have bigger things to worry about other than a scandal.......like lets say??? Chris Paul....or David West maybe??? i don't know just sayin

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    What would give this story any credence is a scorched earth policy by a ref leaving the league for another job. Then he could blow the whistle. Until this happens, then this story is just that. A story.

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    The only conspiracy in the NBA this year was the Gasol trade.
    +1

    The fact that Kwame Brown has now basically been traded for Caron Butler then again for Pau Gasol proves that all but a handful of NBA GM's are morons.

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    This thread is the reason we are known as cry babies. Oh yeah, a little birdie told me .... All our crybaby Spurs fans need is an excuse to explain why we are getting our asses kicked by a very good team.

    Kori, get this thread off before we add to our already tainted reputation around the league.

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    The better team in games one and two was New Orleans. Not the guys who blow the whistles or the guy who jumped through a ring of fire.

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    Man, for a minute I thought I was on a Suns forum.

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    I can't comment on the original post, but please, to shout the word "conspiracy" and think that is enough to denounce something is not enough. A simple look at history (I know, hard to think of in modern America) will show that there have always been "conspiracies".

    For example, a group of industrialists recruited the most decorated American general ever to help them overthrow FDR (Smedley Butler). Also, around 1776 there was a crazy-ass conspiracy of a bunch of colonies to kick the King out of their affairs! There have been conspiracies to throw the World Series, there have been ref and player gambling scandals, there has been a steroid cover up... it goes on and on.

    One thing for sure is that the ref's decisions do make incredible impact on games, a few weighted calls here or there can easily swing a game or a series.

    And, refs do call games differently depending on their personalities and their instructions. Where these instructions come from and what the agenda is, is not always clear to the average forum reader. That does not mean they do not exist. They could be completely divorced from the financial interests of the league as we see it.

    Please do not think that by shouting "conspiracy" that you are somehow more informed than the others.

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    I can't comment on the original post, but please, to shout the word "conspiracy" and think that is enough to denounce something is not enough. A simple look at history (I know, hard to think of in modern America) will show that there have always been "conspiracies".

    For example, a group of industrialists recruited the most decorated American general ever to help them overthrow FDR (Smedley Butler). Also, around 1776 there was a crazy-ass conspiracy of a bunch of colonies to kick the King out of their affairs! There have been conspiracies to throw the World Series, there have been ref and player gambling scandals, there has been a steroid cover up... it goes on and on.

    One thing for sure is that the ref's decisions do make incredible impact on games, a few weighted calls here or there can easily swing a game or a series.

    And, refs do call games differently depending on their personalities and their instructions. Where these instructions come from and what the agenda is, is not always clear to the average forum reader. That does not mean they do not exist. They could be completely divorced from the financial interests of the league as we see it.

    Please do not think that by shouting "conspiracy" that you are somehow more informed than the others.

    Please tell me you're not a 911 "twoofer".

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