Perhaps because they show nothing in the NBA.
Because only idiot Americans not realize how good these players is. Spanoulis and Papaloukas is two of greatest players in WORLD. Spanouli is better but just because he is much better shooter. Papaloukas is better than most of all NBA players. Papaloukas can do everything else he can but is 6-7.
If American not even know Papaloukas ability I starts to wonder if they know ANYTHING about game.
I used to like Papaaloukas but he looks to he's a lot bigger now and is sloooow. Modern day Papaloukas = 2000 Antoine Rigaudeau.
really? just americans? wow...look at the NBA and quit being a fool. americans must hate foreigners thats why some of the best players in the NBA/world are from south america, china, africa, europe, and wherever else that has any sort of basketball talent. we are soooo stupid because v-span couldn't man up for another year and fight thru adversity. if anything you are proving that greek players are a bunch of pussies because pretty much every other major nation in the world has had success in the NBA besides greece.Because only idiot Americans not realize how good these players is. Spanoulis and Papaloukas is two of greatest players in WORLD. Spanouli is better but just because he is much better shooter. Papaloukas is better than most of all NBA players. Papaloukas can do everything else he can but is 6-7.
If American not even know Papaloukas ability I starts to wonder if they know ANYTHING about game.
and if v-span is a better shooterthan papaloukas then papaloukas is screwed. v-span couldn't hit anything outside of 15 feet.
keep blaming stuff on other people. it will get you far in life!
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Papaloukas, and Diamantidis as well, are the 2000s version of Dejan Bodiroga.
They are players who are some of the best in Europe, but I don't think they could transition well to the NBA at this point of their careers. Papaloukas is a great ballhandler, clutch player, and leader. But he is slow, and at a time when the NBA is getting dominated by quick, athletic guards like Paul and Williams, it seems like few teams will want to go for slow guards.
Plus your assertion that he is better than Calderon is bull at this point man. You COULD have made that argument about FIBA tournaments before last summer but not anymore. Calderon was the best player, not Gasol, of a Spanish team that rolled through Eurobasket before losing the Final. I think the main problem that team had was that it could not decide between Navarro and Calderon, and it probably cost the team when they put too much faith in JC Navarro.
And in the NBA there is no debate! Calderon is much younger, and is on the verge of being an All Star next year if the Raptors take their head out of their rear and trade TJ and give Calderon the starting position he clearely deserves.
Spanoulis is a better shooter than Brad Newley this year in Greek championship (and Newley even have 8 for 8 game in 3 point shots this year) who Rockets draft for shooting to replace Head and Newley was rate as best shooter in NBA draft last year. You understand Spanoulis shoot better from 3 point than Newley in Greek league and he top shooter in NBA draft last year.really? just americans? wow...look at the NBA and quit being a fool. americans must hate foreigners thats why some of the best players in the NBA/world are from south america, china, africa, europe, and wherever else that has any sort of basketball talent. we are soooo stupid because v-span couldn't man up for another year and fight thru adversity. if anything you are proving that greek players are a bunch of pussies because pretty much every other major nation in the world has had success in the NBA besides greece.
and if v-span is a better shooter
keep blaming stuff on other people. it will get you far in life!
Reason Spanoulis have bad percentage with Rockets is because he come in game for 2 minute and if miss shot he get bench by coach. T-mac look sooooooo good if get bench every time start game 0-2 and you is as foolish as your old coach of team.
He is like speed demon compare most Spurs players. Yes he not as quick as when young and he do not guard fast point guards now. But he can guard average speed point guard of NBA but this issue you make is not matter because he guard mainly SG and SF. He is still faster than most NBA SF for sure. He is very quick player in moves and reactions.
You not even realize Spanoulis almost beat this great Calderon and Gasol and Navarro all by himself in 2007 Euro championship without Greece starting PF and C and play on Spain home floor. No player of Greece even have average game to help Spanoulis. Spanoulis dominate Calderon so bad in game it not even funny. But American fans think they know Euro players Calderon "incredible" Spanoulis = "trash" these comments are like joke.
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If you saw the final four this year, you could tell.
He's way too slow to do in NBA what he does in Europe, which is the perfect place for his game to shine.
He couldn't defend quick PG nor long 3 and isn't a pure shooter. So basically, he would be useless and probably another Rigaudeau as Timvp said.
He is point guard you put ball in his hands and let him make plays. Rigaudeau is not even same discussion in play making and passing as Papaloukas. This why he is good fit for Rockets because T-Mac have to make EVERY play for them as is now.
No way any Euroleague players get a 3 year MLE deal, so what's the fuss about?
Last year Celtics, Clippers, Hawks, Heat, Lakers all offer him full MLE for 3 years. He end up get more money from CSKA and his family not want to move for less money. Also teams he really not want to play for. When Celtics gets Allen and KG he change his mind.
He was to sign with Celtics if he knew this. It have been say Celtics is still interest also.
Is report much around internet many Lakers fans here they should be able say this true as they is one of more interest team. None of team were good enough he think to win champions so he stay in Russia. He is mad he not go Celtic or Lakers now.
Papaloukas is the guy that almost had (or had, I don't remember) a triple-double against the US team in Japan a couple of years ago, right? Didn't Greece hang a hundred on the Americans and he was their star?
It's true..lotta NBA teams tried to get Papaloukas. He's good. It's not easy to get a big guard like him.
Dude, I live in Europe. I watched every game from Eurobasket and Euroleague final four. Calderon was amazing last summer, and he has only gotten better, and he is younger, and he is a better fit for an NBA system.
I like Papaloukas, I like Diamantidis as well, those guys have a lot of heart. I don't doubt for a moment that NBA teams wanted to get him over here. However he is 31 now, according to everyone but you, is slowing down a bit and never was very fast to begin with. He is not a great shooter, and I personally believe that his ballhandling isn't as good as some of the top PGs in the NBA. That is why the Rigodeau comparison is very accurate.
So size is his greatest asset, yet that alone doesn't get you very far in the NBA. If I was Teo I would keep gathering honors with CSKA and be happy. He is a god in Europe, and there is no need to tarnish it now.
p.s Saras Jasikevicius was pretty darn good at the Euroleague before he came over to the NBA as well. He was rightly considered the best guard in Europe, and he really could do everything. But when you try to come over at 27-28 or whatever it was, especially for a guard, it makes it very hard to adjust.
p.s2 This love that you have with Spanoulis has to stop man, it's ridiculous. He is NOT the best player in Europe, you could argue he is not the best player at Panathinaikos either. Only you keep believing this.
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Ok, Kill_bill_pana, let me take this one:
"You obviously just like other stupid amerikkan fan not knows basketball. Spanoulis not only best player in Europe by far, he also best in nba if van gundy not him up."
So, how did I do?
If Spanoulis is as bad as fans makes him to be why coach Giannakis and coach Obradovic make such statement? Coach Giannakis say he is best player of national team and Diamantidis and Papalouklas is on team. Coach Obradovic say he is most talent player he have ever coach. This include all teammate on PAO and many great player he coach over years.
Do basketball fan know more then these two which is considers by many top 10 even top 5 coach in world? Do Van Gundy who is only consider above average coach in NBA not nothing close to top 5-10 coach in world knows more than them?
dude his mom was very ill. he wanted to be with her in case she passed. i can understand his loyalty to his parents and putting them as a priority in his life. here in america, we send our parents to nursing homes and forget about them....but in other countries, the children actually care for their family as they get old.
if he comes back to the NBA, he will definitely give the Spurs a look before he gives the Rockets a look. He is greatful to the Spurs for giving him the buyout he was desperately seeking. The Spurs did him a big favor, just as they did Scola and the Rockets one.
I have not seen VSpan play, so I do not know if he is good or bad. I just think it is sad to bash a guy for wanting to be there to assist an ill parent.
I want VSpan back.
DD
LOL why don't you post the Papaloukas news on the Rockets board. I'm not gonna go anywhere near that one.
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