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    Probably not to piss off the high quan y of smokers that like menthol cigarettes.
    Isn't that the point? Piss them off so they quit?
    I don't really know and I don't really care. I'm not going to waste time researching the issue.
    You mean, no more time than you have already wasted.
    Still, I don't care if others wish to shorten their life. Shouldn't they be free to do as they please?
    So you're for the use of currently illegal recreational drugs too?

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    Yes, are you delusional?

    They will still smoke. They will simply buy regular cigarettes if menthol cigarettes were banned.
    So would the smokers of other flavors.

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    So would the smokers of other flavors.
    Maybe, but not necessarily. Other cigarettes are not necessarily tobacco. There really isn't much difference between regular cigarettes and menthol flavored ones. All the same thing except the added menthol. If people do smoke the others for the nicotine, then yes. They will switch to regular tobacco cigarettes.

    Clove cigarettes are a bit different.... I know a girl that would smoke part of one before sex. The cloves would numb her throat, and helped her reduce the gag reflex for oral sex! That's the only time she smoked cigarettes. She smoked Mary-Jane rather often though.

    That's it... It's a conspiracy against "deep throat" Boutons, there's your next conspiracy theory... You like to point out how the republicans like to do you-know-what... The democrats found a way to stop them... right?

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    Maybe, but not necessarily. Other cigarettes are not necessarily tobacco. There really isn't much difference between regular cigarettes and menthol flavored ones. All the same thing except the added menthol. If people do smoke the others for the nicotine, then yes. They will switch to regular tobacco cigarettes.
    So if those other cigarettes don't even have tobacco, what is the problem with them?

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    So if those other cigarettes don't even have tobacco, what is the problem with them?
    The clove is more damaging to the lungs than tobacco is. Like I said, I really don't know much about the others. I think clove cigarettes are only about 25% tobacco, and I have no idea of the content of others, how much tobacco, is any.

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    The American Cancer Society says clove cigarettes are 60-70% tobacco, and the American Lung Association says it's often ty tobacco.

    http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/co...and_Health.asp

    http://www.californialung.org/spotli...altobacco.html

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    The American Cancer Society says clove cigarettes are 60-70% tobacco, and the American Lung Association says it's often ty tobacco.

    http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/co...and_Health.asp

    http://www.californialung.org/spotli...altobacco.html
    Maybe so. I hope you at least acknowledge I try not to say things as fact if I don't know.

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    "should marijuana be legalized"

    of course, possession of small amounts completely legal, too much is a ticket, not incarceration. Funny question, it was answered long ago.

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    Maybe so. I hope you at least acknowledge I try not to say things as fact if I don't know.
    Clove is mostly clove. Little if any tobacco. Both regular and menthol are primarily tobacco. Where other flavors fit in, I can only guess. I do know that smoking clove cigarettes is far more harmful than smoking tobacco cigarettes.
    Seemed pretty definitive. I check either way.

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    Seemed pretty definitive. I check either way.
    So I was wrong. I didn't claim to be an expert about cigarettes. I do make mistakes. Don't you?

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    No need to get defensive.

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    "should marijuana be legalized"

    of course, possession of small amounts completely legal, too much is a ticket, not incarceration.
    Great idea! With some of the effects of mj use being; distorted perception, loss of coordination, trouble with thinking, anxiety, and fear, I'd just love to be on the road, or at work with a bunch of people high on mj.

    There are already plenty of people using it a work and while driving, no need to have those numbers skyrocket, which is what would happen if it were legalized (if you disagree with this, prove it to be wrong).



    Let's look at the health risks of marijuana use:

    The short-term effects of marijuana include:

    1. Distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch)
    2. Problems with memory and learning
    3. Loss of coordination
    4. Trouble with thinking and problem-solving
    5. Increased heart rate, reduced blood pressure
    6. Sometimes marijuana use can also produce anxiety, fear, distrust, or panic.




    Effects on the Brain

    The active ingredient in marijuana, delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, acts on cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors, but other areas of the brain have few or none at all. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement.
    When high doses of marijuana are used, usually when eaten in food rather than smoked, users can experience the following symptoms:

    1. Hallucinations
    2. Delusions
    3. Impaired memory
    4. Disorientation




    Effects on the Heart

    -Within a few minutes after smoking marijuana, the heart begins beating more rapidly and the blood pressure drops. Marijuana can cause the heart beat to increase by 20 to 50 beats per minute, and can increase even more if other drugs are used at the same time.
    -Because of the lower blood pressure and higher heart rate, researchers found that users' risk for a heart attack is four times higher within the first hour after smoking marijuana.




    Effects on the Lungs

    Smoking marijuana, even infrequently, can cause burning and stinging of the mouth and throat, and cause heavy coughing. Scientists have found that regular marijuana smokers can experience the same respiratory problems as tobacco smokers do, including:

    Daily cough and phlegm production
    More frequent acute chest illnesses
    Increased risk of lung infections
    Obstructed airways
    Marijuana contains more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and because marijuana smokers usually inhale deeper and hold the smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers, their lungs are exposed to those carcinogenic properties longer.
    One study found that marijuana smokers were three times more likely to develop cancer of the head or neck than non-smokers. Many researchers believe than smoking marijuana is overall more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco.





    Other Health Effects

    Research indicates that THC impairs the body's immune system from fighting disease, which can cause a wide variety of health problems. One study found that marijuana actually inhibited the disease-preventing actions of key immune cells. Another study found that THC increased the risk of developing bacterial infections and tumors.




    Effects of Exposure During Pregnancy

    Several studies have found that children born to mothers who used marijuana during pregnancy exhibit some problems with neurological development. According to those studies, prenatal marijuana exposure can cause:

    1. Altered responses to visual stimuli
    2. Increased tremulousness
    3. Problems with sustained attention and memory
    4. Poor problem-solving skills

    http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/effects.htm

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    only losers/slackers think marijuana should be legalized...

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    Only less bubbas think, even prefer, that marijuana possession should land you in prison.

    If marijuana is illegal and imprisonable, then tobacco should be also. and vice versa. Can't have it both ways.

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    If marijuana is illegal and imprisonable, then tobacco should be also. and vice versa. Can't have it both ways.
    We can, and we do, pothead.


    Tobacco is not a hallucinogen, marijuana (THC) is.

    'nuff said.

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    Great idea! With some of the effects of alcohol use being; distorted perception, loss of coordination, trouble with thinking, I'd just love to be on the road, or at work with a bunch of people drunk on alcohol.

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    Only less bubbas think, even prefer, that marijuana possession should land you in prison.

    If marijuana is illegal and imprisonable, then tobacco should be also. and vice versa. Can't have it both ways.
    Well, most of us who respect president Bush (is that who you mean?) disagree with many of his policies.

    My personal viewpoint is that cigarettes are the most harmful of the three for the individual, i.e. lung cancer. Alcohol is the most harmful for the second-had effect, by driving drunk and killing people. Marijuana is the least dangerous of the three, yet it is the one illegal. Go figure. Now I know some of you will say the conservatives want to keep marijuana illegal, but you know what. That is not a party thing. Only some do. I think it should be legalized. So do many others. Of course, they want to tax it like cigarettes.

    If tobacco is to be illegal, I mean, if people want the government to protect us from ourselves that much, then we are doomed! Do our freedoms mean anything? I find it ironic that the same general group of people (liberals) who want to enforce their morals of substances upon us are the same ones who endorse anal sex, the primary ,means of HIV transmission.

    Alcohol is the first of the three that should be regulated, and it probably has sufficient enforcement of law behind it.

    Proud to know Mary Jane.

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    This is what happens when democrats are in power. Keepin the black man down so they can keep getting their votes.

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    If marijuana is illegal and imprisonable, then tobacco should be also. and vice versa. Can't have it both ways.
    i agree.

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    Last summer I smoked marijuana almost daily, and I never hallucinated on it. I have had hallucinations on other drugs, psychedelic or otherwise, but I've never seen or heard anything that wasn't there while high on marijuana. Yeah, if you get really high, you get lazy and do eat out the whole refrigerator, but it doesn't make you trip out. Maybe weed is different in other states or other parts of the world. None of the types I've ever smoked have made me trip. Usually just get really high, watch a movie and pass out.

    Tim Meadows Marijuana Warning

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    Last summer I smoked marijuana almost daily, and I never hallucinated on it. I have had hallucinations on other drugs, psychedelic or otherwise, but I've never seen or heard anything that wasn't there while high on marijuana. Yeah, if you get really high, you get lazy and do eat out the whole refrigerator, but it doesn't make you trip out. Maybe weed is different in other states or other parts of the world. None of the types I've ever smoked have made me trip. Usually just get really high, watch a movie and pass out.
    Tim Meadows Marijuana Warning
    Prime ing example of potheads!

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    Pot... legalize it and tax the crap out of it, and put in appropriate DUI/DWI laws applicable to it.

    * it's less harmful than tobacco to a person

    * we spend entirely too much time and money on it from a law enforcement perspective

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    marijuana is a HUGE PRIVATE INDUSTRY.

    BigPrison, esp http://www.correctionscorp.com/, a lawyer of which dubya has proposed as Federal judge, has taken over prisons at a MUCH higher cost to taxpayers (like ALL privatization does).

    For possession of personal quan y, go to prison and enrich the likes CCA and others with 10 of $1000 of tax dollars per prisoner, and get to mix with true criminals and their criminalizing influence.

    As always in America, business always figure out ways, legally/not, ethically/not to over individuals, with neo- s, Repugs, conservatives as their enablers. And all of us are being ed over, every ing day by businesses and the top 2%.

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    * we spend entirely too much time and money on it from a law enforcement perspective
    How much time and money are spent on running down marijuana users? Do you really think there are very many people calling the police and saying, "hey, get the cops out here, I think my neighbor might be smoking a joint"? And if they did, do you think they would send a Unit out to investigate?

    Not sure where you're from AH, but I don't think the law enforcement agencies in NW Ohio spend much, if any, time going after MJ users.
    I've worked in a low-income housing developement for many years, and rarely a day goes by where a someone isn't using it in an apartment I'm servicing.
    You can walk around the developement and smell it wafting out of the apartments. Not once, in my years have I seen a resident busted for smoking pot (not that they haven't, but it's rare).
    So, for practical intents and purposes it's no more than a misdemeanor, not worthy of Law Enforcement Agencies time in light of the many more serious crimes being committed.

    I don't see any benefit to legalizing a hallucinogen. Society doesn't need to encourage drug abuse.

    How would legalizing it be beneficial to people, and society as a whole?


    (Stay out of this boutons)

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    How does legal alcohol benefit people and society as a whole?

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