The Official Barry Fouled By Fisher Thread

[Go For Tree]

Can't get bailed out by the refs....seemed to work all game though.

i hate to agree with a lakers fan about anything. but true spurs fans know it shouldnt have come down to a foul being called on the last shot. truthfully i cant believe the spurs had a chance to still win it at the end. they didnt deserve to be that close...... if they cut the lakers offensive boards by 25% the spurs limit la's second chance points and win with ease. REBOUND THE ING BALL. WHO WANTS IT MORE?

[CP3forMVP]

barry wasn't in the act of shooting, so he wouldn't have got the free throws either way. thats clear. but would yall have gotten free throws if the foul was called even though he wasn't in the act?

[SAGambler]

Kobe says "it wasn't a foul".

Fish says "He knew they wouldn't call it".

Hmmmmm....So who's right? Kobe or Fish.......

I vote for Fish.

[MadDog73]

Give me a ing break. Kobe shot 1 FT in 2 games. ONE> Your theory doesn't hold . Bunch of ing whiners. You get calls ALL GAMELONG, like:

1. Duncan's blatant travel on the dunk - not called.
2. Odom's clean block on Parker's layup - called a goaltend.
3. Fisher's shot hitting the rim - shot clock not reset, giving SA the last shot.
4. Kobe not shooting any FTs on 29 FGA. Seriously.
5. Barry traveled before Fisher even touched him - not called.
6. Barry and Pop even agreed it was not a foul - just like most of the media. The only ones complaining are you guys.

Go back to your salsa dancing and mariachi on the River Walk and STFU.

None of that matters.

The question is: Did Fisher Foul Barry or not?

That's the only question. There's not some rule that one bad call deserves another.

[Oh, Gee!!]

it was a good no-call. games shouldn't be decide on the foul line. spurs got outplayed, and shouldn't look to the refs for a bail-out.

[MadDog73]

it was a good no-call. games shouldn't be decide on the foul line. spurs got outplayed, and shouldn't look to the refs for a bail-out.

So, on the last play, you can take someone out with no consequence?

Good to know. I didn't know that rule.

[sleepy]

None of that matters.

The question is: Did Fisher Foul Barry or not?

That's the only question. There's not some rule that one bad call deserves another.

Barry traveled before Fisher even touched him. You guys refuse to even acknowledge obvious video evidence.

Let's say, hypothetically, Barry didn't travel - at best it was a 2 FT foul. But if that call is made, then let's go back to the more obvious calls that were missed that gave the Spurs free points.

You won't do that because it negates your argument because you just want to be selective about only looking at calls that benefit your team.

[CP3forMVP]

how do you figure? the guy pump faked, fisher jumped and for whatever reason he tried to dribble around fisher instead of going up for the shot. was it a foul? yes. did it deserve free throws? no. you don't decide a playoff game on free throws. the refs made the right call. and is it a coincidence that all the spurs are agreeing that it wasnt a foul?

[MadDog73]

Barry traveled before Fisher even touched him. You guys refuse to even acknowledge obvious video evidence.

Let's say, hypothetically, Barry didn't travel - at best it was a 2 FT foul. But if that call is made, then let's go back to the more obvious calls that were missed that gave the Spurs free points.

You won't do that because it negates your argument because you just want to be selective about only looking at calls that benefit your team.

OK, then call the travel. Or call the foul before the shot and give Barry 2 FTs.

But, Jesus Christ, call something! Something happened, and now the series is tainted because of a no call.

It surely doesn't help that it was Joe Crawford.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Crawford

[Myrak]

Barry traveled before Fisher even touched him. You guys refuse to even acknowledge obvious video evidence.

Let's say, hypothetically, Barry didn't travel - at best it was a 2 FT foul. But if that call is made, then let's go back to the more obvious calls that were missed that gave the Spurs free points.

You won't do that because it negates your argument because you just want to be selective about only looking at calls that benefit your team.

The rest the game doesn't matter. Bad calls all around. But on that final play, with the game on the line, the refs intentionally swallowed the whistles, as not to "affect the outcome". That, my friend, is sad because refs are paid to make those tough calls, in that situation. Not to do so it plain crap.

[sleepy]

how do you figure? the guy pump faked, fisher jumped and for whatever reason he tried to dribble around fisher instead of going up for the shot. was it a foul? yes. did it deserve free throws? no. you don't decide a playoff game on free throws. the refs made the right call. and is it a coincidence that all the spurs are agreeing that it wasnt a foul?

OMFG.

Watch the multiple video posted here. He planted his pivot foot and took a step with his other foot. While Fish was in the air, Barry tried to dribble around im and lifted his pivot foot before he started dribbling. THEN Fisher landed on him. Travel before the foul.

I know the rules. Apparently you don't. Video backs it up and you still refuse to acknowledge it. Stop watching basketball. The game is obviously too complicated for you to follow.

[MadDog73]

was it a foul? yes.

That's the only relevant statement in your post.

[sleepy]

The rest the game doesn't matter. Bad calls all around. But on that final play, with the game on the line, the refs intentionally swallowed the whistles, as not to "affect the outcome". That, my friend, is sad because refs are paid to make those tough calls, in that situation. Not to do so it plain crap.

You're right. They let the travel go, then they let the foul go because they missed the travel.

Even. Lakers win. 3-1.

Next.

[Myrak]

how do you figure? the guy pump faked, fisher jumped and for whatever reason he tried to dribble around fisher instead of going up for the shot. was it a foul? yes. did it deserve free throws? no. you don't decide a playoff game on free throws. the refs made the right call. and is it a coincidence that all the spurs are agreeing that it wasnt a foul?

Spurs players and coaches "rare'y" complain about refs. It is Pop's rule.

[Myrak]

You're right. They let the travel go, then they let the foul go because they missed the travel.

Even. Lakers win. 3-1.

Next.

The travel is in your head. Learn to play the game. there was no travel.

[CP3forMVP]

OMFG.

Watch the multiple video posted here. He planted his pivot foot and took a step with his other foot. While Fish was in the air, Barry tried to dribble around im and lifted his pivot foot before he started dribbling. THEN Fisher landed on him. Travel before the foul.

I know the rules. Apparently you don't. Video backs it up and you still refuse to acknowledge it. Stop watching basketball. The game is obviously too complicated for you to follow.

i'm not talking about the travel, i'm on your side dude. all these spurs fans that are whining that it was a foul and he should have gotten free throws are a joke. he traveled, but they hardly ever call travels in the nba. kobe mighta traveled too. but my point is that the refs made the right call.

[Dex]

Should'a been a call. Referees blow their whistles for much less in this league.

That being said, I'm not surprised they didn't call it. Tough to put the official in that spot and make him decide the game with a whistle.

I'm still pissed we didn't get a fair shot, though. If Fish had been playing defense, that's one thing. But apparently mugging your man on the last shot is now a viable strategy since the refs don't want to make the call.

[jaysmooth422]

That was a clean block on parker's layup, not goaltending...watch it again. Everything evens out in the end

ok that block by odom was goaltending and if someone gets fouled on a shot attempt from behind the three point line thats three free throws pimp not two.


LETS TAKE IT ONE GAME AT A TIME SPURS WIN GAME FIVE AND BRING IT BACK TO SA.

[Spurminator]

I wish Barry had just shot the ball. You're not going to get a call on the floor like that at the end of a game. Maybe he should have, maybe he shouldn't have, but this is what happens when you rely on a call instead of getting the best shot you can get. If Barry dribbles left he has a clear view of the basket.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I wish Barry had just shot the ball. You're not going to get a call on the floor like that at the end of a game. Maybe he should have, maybe he shouldn't have, but this is what happens when you rely on a call instead of getting the best shot you can get. If Barry dribbles left he has a clear view of the basket.

reggie miller ruined the league

[MadDog73]

I wish Barry had just shot the ball. You're not going to get a call on the floor like that at the end of a game. Maybe he should have, maybe he shouldn't have, but this is what happens when you rely on a call instead of getting the best shot you can get. If Barry dribbles left he has a clear view of the basket.

Or, he should have sold it more. Then Crawford would have had to call it.

Or not.

[Spurminator]

That's a loser's mindset though. You don't go into a last second play looking to create a foul. You go into the play looking to make a basket because you are confident enough in your ability to hit a game-tying or game-winning shot.

[Say-Townbball]

The bottom line is even if Barry sold the foul, that Crawford would've never blew the whistle. Stripes aren't going to determine the outcome of a WCF playoff game...

If the Spurs had gotten over the hump, it'd be a different story.

So...no whining, let's go back to LA, pray for a miracle, cuz it is what it is.

[oligarchy]

The bottom line is even if Barry sold the foul, that Crawford would've never blew the whistle. Stripes aren't going to determine the outcome of a WCF playoff game...

If the Spurs had gotten over the hump, it'd be a different story.

So...no whining, let's go back to LA, pray for a miracle, cuz it is what it is.

[Nbadan]

no one expected the refs to 'determine the outcome of a game' but let's call a foul a foul..a non-shooting foul would have tied the game at best for the Spurs...