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    Incidental Contact: The mere fact that contact occurs does not mean a foul has been committed. Players are allowed to contact other players when reaching for a loose ball, or when performing normal offensive and defensive movements.

    Since Fish jumped and landed before the contact, and since Barry attempted to avoid the contact, there was no foul.

    He did land -- On Barry's head.

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    Well in that case, Kobe travels on every first step he takes to the basket.

    You're a ing idiot if you truly believe that was a travel.
    Just giving a different view of the play get a grip.

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    I know that False is True. And here is the proof.


    Are you blind or what?

    Yes Barry got fisher in the air BEFORE the travel but contact NEVER happened before the travel.

    LOOK Fish is in the air. Barry picks up pivot foot then about 0.4 seconds later FISH hits him. Maybe that's why you think it's a foul before travel cuz it happened way too fast.

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    I know that False is True. And here is the proof.


    Are you blind or what?

    Yes Barry got fisher in the air BEFORE the travel but contact NEVER happened before the travel.

    LOOK Fish is in the air. Barry picks up pivot foot then about 0.4 seconds later FISH hits him. Maybe that's why you think it's a foul before travel cuz it happened way too fast.
    Are you blind? How can you say that was "incidental contact" when Fisher clearly lands on his head...Barry picks up pivot foot then about 0.4 seconds earlier FISH hits him. Maybe that's why you think it's a travel before a foul cuz it happened way too fast.

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    He did land -- On Barry's head.
    Why does it matter - HE TRAVLED! You can't refute that, all you can say is gay. No one has actualy adressed this fact.

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    Seemed his right foot didn't take a step until he dribbled the ball so I don't think so...
    The ball is still in his hand when he takes a step with his right foot.

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    Are you blind? How can you say that was "incidental contact" when Fisher clearly lands on his head...Barry picks up pivot foot then about 0.4 seconds earlier FISH hits him. Maybe that's why you think it's a travel before a foul cuz it happened way too fast.
    LOL I'm just going to stop... its either you or your computer is ed up. WHEN DID I EVER SAY IT WAS INCIDENTAL LOL!!!!!!!!

    Watch carefully please!!! HE PICKS IT UP AND THEN FISH NAILS BARRY ON THE HEAD!! LOOOOL ING BLIND!

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    On Dan Patrick's show this morning, Jason Terry, known Spurs-hater, said the refs blew the foul call on Barry.


    Said that had this game been in LA and that had been Kobe, that Kobe would definitely be going to the line for 2.



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    Why does it matter - HE TRAVLED! You can't refute that, all you can say is gay. No one has actualy adressed this fact.
    "gay" was in reference to the team name under your avatar

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    Why does it matter - HE TRAVLED! You can't refute that, all you can say is gay. No one has actualy adressed this fact.
    They refuse to see it.

    This occured after three blown calls, all in their favor in the last minute to even get the game to that point.

    You have the goaltend that was actually a clean block (LO got it before it hit the board, it is clear on replay), you have Manu standing on the line on his "3" and then you have the Fisher shot that hit the rim with 5 seconds left that should have reset the clock. Thus Kobe would not have had to force a shot (that he was fouled on also by the way) and the Spurs would have been forced to foul.

    They likely would have been down 4 pts with 2 or 3 seconds left if that call is made and that isn't even discussing Duncan's four step dunk, the ridiculous FT attempt differential through the first 3 quarters, the blocking call on Odom (after Spurs were flopping all game long for charging calls), the fact Kobe Bryant has more offensive fouls than FT attempts in the series, etc.

    Spur fan overall has disappointed me. They simply (with a few notable exceptions) aren't very smart.

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    lOL I THINK I KNOW WHAT MEXICAN IS TALKING ABOUT NOW! I THINK HES TALKING ABOUT HE LIFTED HIS PIVOT FOOT WHEN HE JUMPED TO SHOOT!!! LOLLLLL DUMBASS NOOOOOOOO HE DRIBBLED. BUT PICKED UP HIS FOOT BEFORE!!!

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    I heard that this morning too. He was being honest and the sad thing is, he is probably right. If its Kobe and not Barry, Kobe is going to the line.

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    LOL I'm just going to stop... its either you or your computer is ed up. WHEN DID I EVER SAY IT WAS INCIDENTAL LOL!!!!!!!!

    Watch carefully please!!! HE PICKS IT UP AND THEN FISH NAILS BARRY ON THE HEAD!! LOOOOL ING BLIND!
    Sorry, got you confused with your Laker brethren that posted this crap since you guys all pretty much say the same and make the same threads...

    Incidental Contact: The mere fact that contact occurs does not mean a foul has been committed. Players are allowed to contact other players when reaching for a loose ball, or when performing normal offensive and defensive movements.

    Since Fish jumped and landed before the contact, and since Barry attempted to avoid the contact, there was no foul.

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    He's bringing his right foot forward as he's dribbling the ball. Players do this all the time on their first step. The only difference is his forward movement is stopped by fisher running into him. Foul.

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    Spurs fans refuse to see it. He traveled before anything. And Everyone on the TNT studio agreed with the no call. Terry Hates Kobe. And he is sitting at home watching. And so will the Spurs.

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    He's bringing his right foot forward as he's dribbling the ball. Players do this all the time on their first step. The only difference is his forward movement is stopped by fisher running into him. Foul.
    Pivot foot lifts before the ball hits the ground - TRAVEL

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    lOL I THINK I KNOW WHAT MEXICAN IS TALKING ABOUT NOW! I THINK HES TALKING ABOUT HE LIFTED HIS PIVOT FOOT WHEN HE JUMPED TO SHOOT!!! LOLLLLL DUMBASS NOOOOOOOO HE DRIBBLED. BUT PICKED UP HIS FOOT BEFORE!!!
    If Kobe can sit there and say no foul, I can sit here and say no travel...It looks to me like contact was initiated first...This sounds like when Duncan made the 3 and Suns fans were crying for a travel also, did you think that was one as well?

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    Whether it's a foul on Fisher or not, it becomes moot when Barry moves his pivot foot and travels before any contact.

    Granted, it was nowhere near as obvious as Duncan's little skip-to-my-lou in the first half, but just watch Barry's feet the replay. You had two "no-calls" in the last 3 seconds. If anything SHOULD have been called, it would be whatever occurs first.
    that was not a travel lol what are you guys talking about he caught the ball went for a pump fake and got fisher in the air and he tried to dribble around him bottom line. its really not a coincidence that this game ended the way it did. put an asterisk next to the lakers if they win this series.

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    Sorry, got you confused with your Laker brethren that posted this crap since you guys all pretty much say the same and make the same threads...

    Incidental Contact: The mere fact that contact occurs does not mean a foul has been committed. Players are allowed to contact other players when reaching for a loose ball, or when performing normal offensive and defensive movements.

    Since Fish jumped and landed before the contact, and since Barry attempted to avoid the contact, there was no foul.
    LOL WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FOULS/CONTACS/NO CALLS.

    HE ING TRAVELED!!!!!

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    They refuse to see it.

    This occured after three blown calls, all in their favor in the last minute to even get the game to that point.

    You have the goaltend that was actually a clean block (LO got it before it hit the board, it is clear on replay), you have Manu standing on the line on his "3" and then you have the Fisher shot that hit the rim with 5 seconds left that should have reset the clock. Thus Kobe would not have had to force a shot (that he was fouled on also by the way) and the Spurs would have been forced to foul.

    They likely would have been down 4 pts with 2 or 3 seconds left if that call is made and that isn't even discussing Duncan's four step dunk, the ridiculous FT attempt differential through the first 3 quarters, the blocking call on Odom (after Spurs were flopping all game long for charging calls), the fact Kobe Bryant has more offensive fouls than FT attempts in the series, etc.

    Spur fan overall has disappointed me. They simply (with a few notable exceptions) aren't very smart.
    Had the uniforms on that play been switched, you know damned well that you'd be claiming conspriacies and fixes. Don't give me all of this self-righteous nonsense -- you of all people!

    Significantly, that call didn't cost the Spurs that game. I thought the officiating was, on the whole, good last night -- the Spurs weren't always rewarded for taking the ball at the rim, but that meant that both teams were allowed to play physically on the defensive end. Ultimately, the officials allowed the teams to play. While there was some inconsistency between early calls and late calls, and even some calls that were incorrect, those things are to be expected.

    What's ridiculous, however, is Lakers fan coming in here and carrying on as if that play, occurring on the other end of the floor, wouldn't have incited a riot of controversy among the Laker Nation and all sorts of claims of fixes and other such nonsense. And I'm absolutely certain that had that come to pass, Lanny would have been leading the charge with his nonsensical Circle of 7 claims and theories about how the league is out to screw over the Lakers. , Lanny's still screaming about jump ball violations that occurred 4 years ago -- imagine a play like that one actually going against the Lakers!!! Lanny's head would explode with the conspiracy theories he could concoct from that moment (hypothetical as it may be).

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    Pivot foot lifts before the ball hits the ground - TRAVEL

    Ok, I see it now, but that's a fraction of a second before Barry's head is pile-driven by Derek's elbow. THAT travel was very subtle and would probably NEVER get called. What was OBVIOUS was Fisher landing on Brents head.


    It's all a mute point anyway.

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    LOL WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FOULS/CONTACS/NO CALLS.

    HE ING TRAVELED!!!!!
    No travel...enjoy your * win and soon to be 2nd place finish to the East...

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    how does none of that matter?? lets subtract parkers layup -2 points u guys would be down 4. lets subtract the travel as well -6 stop ing spurs u guys got all the fukin calls and dont tell me u guys didnt ill be happy to sit with u and watch the game over and tell me the refs didnt keep u in the game.

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    none of the fouls we got dictated who won the game though.

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    Spurs fans refuse to see it. He traveled before anything. And Everyone on the TNT studio agreed with the no call. Terry Hates Kobe. And he is sitting at home watching. And so will the Spurs.

    But the national media is not talking about this "travel" because it is lame.

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    that was not a travel lol what are you guys talking about he caught the ball went for a pump fake and got fisher in the air and he tried to dribble around him bottom line. its really not a coincidence that this game ended the way it did. put an asterisk next to the lakers if they win this series.
    Jeeeeeez. You don't know what a travel is... dont you?

    He landed with two feet. He landed with the Right one first so that is his pivot foot. He tried to take one dribble away from Fisher but when he did that he LIFTED his pivot foot before the BALL HIT THE GROUND. Which makes it a travel. It's the rules. Too bad rules don't matter anymore in the NBA these days.

    If the Refs missed a call by not calling a foul on Fisher then they missed a travel on Barry. End of discussion. This thread has no more purpose.

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