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    i would hate to say this... but if Tiago signs an extension with TAU... i think he may have seen what they did to Scola as inspiration...

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    There's no news about it in Brazil press.
    There is this story but I don't know if they just reported Marca news or if they get some kind of confirmation.
    http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/e...2u406342.shtml


    They said that Tiago should/will sign a 1 year extension.
    I guess Tau have said to him, stay one more year, we will give you a big salary and we will lower your buyout in 2009 from $1M to $500K (the max a NBA team can give to a Euro team for a buyout). By doing that, Splitter will have his full NBA rookie salary for him and won't have to give a part of his rookie salary to Tau.

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    There is this story but I don't know if they just reported Marca news or if they get some kind of confirmation.
    http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/e...2u406342.shtml


    They said that Tiago should/will sign a 1 year extension.
    I guess Tau have said to him, stay one more year, we will give you a big salary and we will lower your buyout in 2009 from $1M to $500K (the max a NBA team can give to a Euro team for a buyout). By doing that, Splitter will have his full NBA rookie salary for him and won't have to give a part of his rookie salary to Tau.
    so would this be helpful for us? i think the guy is needed ASAP isn't he?

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    There is this story but I don't know if they just reported Marca news or if they get some kind of confirmation.
    http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/e...2u406342.shtml


    They said that Tiago should/will sign a 1 year extension.
    I guess Tau have said to him, stay one more year, we will give you a big salary and we will lower your buyout in 2009 from $1M to $500K (the max a NBA team can give to a Euro team for a buyout). By doing that, Splitter will have his full NBA rookie salary for him and won't have to give a part of his rookie salary to Tau.

    I saw that, but they are just reporting Marca.

    maybe we can get some news in the newspaper website of Tiago hometown

    http://www.clicrbs.com.br/diariocata...apaId=Esportes

    I'm also waiting to see if my frind can talk to his agent or Tiago. I'm also waiting to see that the guy who reported it 1st here in his blog have some news

    Here the 1st report on his blog 2 weeks ago

    http://espnbrasil.terra.com.br/blog/...14&idArtigo=71

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    I'm also waiting to see if my frind can talk to his agent or Tiago. I'm also waiting to see that the guy who reported it 1st here in his blog have some news
    Thanks

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    If Splitter signs any sort of extension, trade his azz if he has any value. He'll just become less and less likely to ever cross the pond as the years go on. At least with Scola he wasn't locked into a set contract so the Spurs could get him if they really wanted him. With Splitter, you basically have to hope he takes less money in the short-term ... which isn't a common occurrence in sports.

    What sucks is Splitter could have easily been a starter next year for the Spurs. He's pretty agile and quick so he could work against teams like the Lakers. His offense isn't great but it isn't too bad. Plus he's a world class flopper, which usually transfers over well to the NBA. Especially early on before the refs realize what's happening.

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    Why you keep repeat this lie over and over here? Have you not listen at all to Europe members here? You need stop live in past. This just not true what you say. If player is deem worth of NBA max contract by rich club in Europe like CSKA, PAO, or Olympiacos then player will get same as NBA max contract. You just refuse listen to thing be explain to you over and over.
    So, there are players in Europe who earn Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili money over there (Approximately $10 Million Dollars per year)? Name the European Players Earning NBA MAX Money please so you can educate me.

    I won't even talk about Tim Duncan money. These guys have the CHANCE to earn more in the NBA over a career in my opinion. Obviously not every player does.
    Last edited by Harry Callahan; 05-28-2008 at 03:41 PM.

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    Hopefully Mahinmi is ready but he just appears too raw. I can't imagine him going from raw NBDL player to playoff performer in one year. He's still a long term project ... where as Splitter is already as good as he's going to get.

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    Tim, Iago, Ian as front-line with Robert and Fabs departed or seated way down the bench?

    I'll drink to that.

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    countdown to trading Splitter's rights to get rid of Bonner's contract in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

    lol

    how awful.

    One of the classic anti-Scola arguements has been "Splitter! We have Splitter now! Splitter is better!"

    IF Splitter never comes that will only make the anti-Scola buffoonery cube into astronomical proportions, and it already was pretty bad.

    No Splitter = le contending window probably closed.

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    While I'd love to see Mahinmi thrown to the wolves for as many minutes as possible, his season next year even if he's not sent to Austin probably tracks Amir Johnson. Some solid bench minutes during the season on occasion, but come playoff time glued to the bench. Not enough to determine how far a team goes.

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    So, there are players in Europe who earn Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili money over there (Approximately $10 Million Dollars per year)? Name them.

    These guys have the CHANCE to earn more in the NBA. Obviously not everyone does.
    You refuse do simple maths.

    NBA contracts is GROSS. Europe top clubs is NET.

    Let me gives you some ideas. Kirilenko last summer were offer 40 million EURO net money for 5 years. And Euro is like 1.64 worth of US dollar.

    Webber is offer last summer 10 million EURO in the net salary for 2 years. Now remember these player will also get house pay for, car pay for, all expense. Team like Olympiacos offer contract to Webber is even offer pay all college and such for kids. They offers free yacht and Mediterranean villa plus they pay all taxes on these also.

    Now try get simple thing, Manu do not make $10 million, he have to PAY TAXES on this. Get this?

    And Kirilenko and Webber is not even best of NBA players. Teams such as PAO, CSKA, Olympiacos can pay NBA max salary if they feel player is worth such and player is willing to sign there.

    You even realize how much salary PAO and CSKA have? 33 million euros NET for CSKA and 30 million euros NET for PAO for these years rosters. Now try do simple math your self. NET salary PLUS all expenses of players paid and all tax on these expense.

    They have already figure Saras is be paid equal of $12 million per year if he is with NBA team. They pay equal to $12 million per year for playser such as Saras who is even not very good at level of top teams in Greek league you not think they will pay max level for good NBA player?

    Splitter is not good enough to get this salary but if he is he will gets it.

    You talks about Manu he can EASY get more money from team such as PAO or CSKA than Spurs pays him.

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    Mahinmi progressed a lot this year rasing his play against the compettion. Hopefully next year, throughout the year he can do the same against NBA players. I like his intensity and aggressivenes compared to Splitter plus the fact he seems to posses a lot better mid-range shot. And he actually wants to play with the big boys.

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    If Splitter signs an extension, I'm not sure the Spurs are going to just play along and wait it out. Splitter was all about coming to the NBA before the draft and right after the draft. He said it was 100%.

    And really, Scola had more to complain about than Splittler. Scola didn't have a set buyout. Scola wasn't locked into a set contract. Scola basically told teams not to draft him in the second round and the Spurs did it anyways.

    Splitter knew exactly how much money his contract was going to be when he was drafted. He knew he'd be giving up money from Tau. If he wasn't interested, he shouldn't have fooled the Spurs by pretending he was all about the NBA. Listening talk after the draft, there was no doubt in his words that he was coming to the Spurs.

    If he wants to go back on his word, F him. He knew how this situation would play out. Hopefully this latest report isn't accurate because if it is, I don't want him on the Spurs after this drama queen BS move.

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    Hopefully this latest report isn't accurate because if it is, I don't want him on the Spurs after this drama queen BS move.
    I think you are being over dramatic with this statement... maybe it's just 1 year he has to play to have his FULL rookie contract... and i bet you'd welcome him on 2010 with arms wide open... i dunno if there are many polished big men in the NBA as he is...

    and as a plus... all this years... playing besides the father of his godson... i don't think he may have heard nice things about the Spurs FO in TAU's lockeroom...

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    if memory serves, Splitter actually came to San Antonio and had a press conference with the Spurs.

    Something Scola never did, so that made it so much more likely that Splitter would come.

    Oh well.

    At least we have Bonner.

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    Spurs should tell him "now or never. Extend with Tau and we'll bury you and your rights in Europe forever."

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    The latest on Mahinmi is that Spurs haven't made him any kind of promise on playing with Spurs next year.
    He hasn't even talk with Pop about his role next year and he is just hope to play with Spurs next year after his good first year in Austin.

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    You refuse do simple maths.

    NBA contracts is GROSS. Europe top clubs is NET.

    Let me gives you some ideas. Kirilenko last summer were offer 40 million EURO net money for 5 years. And Euro is like 1.64 worth of US dollar.

    Webber is offer last summer 10 million EURO in the net salary for 2 years. Now remember these player will also get house pay for, car pay for, all expense. Team like Olympiacos offer contract to Webber is even offer pay all college and such for kids. They offers free yacht and Mediterranean villa plus they pay all taxes on these also.

    Now try get simple thing, Manu do not make $10 million, he have to PAY TAXES on this. Get this?

    And Kirilenko and Webber is not even best of NBA players. Teams such as PAO, CSKA, Olympiacos can pay NBA max salary if they feel player is worth such and player is willing to sign there.

    You even realize how much salary PAO and CSKA have? 33 million euros NET for CSKA and 30 million euros NET for PAO for these years rosters. Now try do simple math your self. NET salary PLUS all expenses of players paid and all tax on these expense.

    They have already figure Saras is be paid equal of $12 million per year if he is with NBA team. They pay equal to $12 million per year for playser such as Saras who is even not very good at level of top teams in Greek league you not think they will pay max level for good NBA player?

    Splitter is not good enough to get this salary but if he is he will gets it.

    You talks about Manu he can EASY get more money from team such as PAO or CSKA than Spurs pays him.
    Dang...

    If the dollar keeps sinking relative to the Euro I could see top draft prospects taking the easy money and skipping the NBA completely...

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    There is this story but I don't know if they just reported Marca news or if they get some kind of confirmation.
    http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/e...2u406342.shtml


    They said that Tiago should/will sign a 1 year extension.
    I guess Tau have said to him, stay one more year, we will give you a big salary and we will lower your buyout in 2009 from $1M to $500K (the max a NBA team can give to a Euro team for a buyout). By doing that, Splitter will have his full NBA rookie salary for him and won't have to give a part of his rookie salary to Tau.
    A one year deal is not horrible for the Spurs (a little more seasoning for him) and coming over in 2009. A three year deal is not good.

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    Spurs should tell him "now or never. Extend with Tau and we'll bury you and your rights in Europe forever."
    But all he have to do is same thing Scola do. If want come NBA just have agent tell other NBA teams he is now look for trade. If some team is willing to take Bonner and then dumps him trade will be done.

    I would like see Tiago in Spurs but is obvious US fans just not realize economic situations now. Dollar is so weak and in Europe players and teams are getting much bigger contracts each year. Is no longer reason to join NBA to make more money but instead is to make LESS money.

    Scola remembers is getting huge shoe contract from China this only reason he agree to salary Rockets gives him.

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    I have the perfect solution guys.

    Time for Dennis Lindsay to work his magic.

    We all know how close Splitter and Scola are and how they wanted to play together.

    So the Spurs trade Splitter's rights + Matt Bonner's contract to Houston for Steve Francis (1 year left) + cash considerations to buy out Francis's contract. Then after the deal is done Splitter will change his mind and sign with Houston.

    He'll be a great fit there, backing up Yao when he's healthy and starting all the games Yao misses, and he'll have the great chemistry with Scola to smooth his transition.

    And this way the Spurs get to save face by unloading Bonner's contract and putting a couple of million into Holt's pockets during these uncertain economic times!

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    Until last tuesday there was a Spurs agent in Vitoria trying to convince Tiago Splitter Tau ceramica's Center to be part of the "rejuvenation operation" of the Texan team. nevertheless it doesn't seem that he was successful on his trip. the renewal offer given by Tau to Tiago seems to be satisfactory enough for him to stay and almost for sure he is staying in Vitoria.

    Splitter, chosen by the Spurs 28th first round pick will accept the renewal offer. It is not signed yet and there are last minute details to be worked out but surroundings to the club and the player reportedly announced to have it done already, and that would keep Tiago in TAU's main man just like Scola that didn't leave to the NBA until he was 26.

    A whole life with TAU

    With just 15 y/o in 2000 TAU signed Tiago from Blumenau a Brazilian club and then sent him to play to Araba Gorago from EBA league. He played with the National Brazilian team in ALL their categories (2002 World Cup appareance with just 17y/o), he also played for Bilbao Basket (from 2001 to 2003, on LEB2 and LEB) and has been last two "Supercopas" MVP

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    Scola remembers is getting huge shoe contract from China this only reason he agree to salary Rockets gives him.
    Where in the world do you come up with this crap?

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