You can't fault the guy for taking more money. I would love to see him in a Spurs jersey to see what he can do. I also think its wrong if he had given his word to come here and now turns his back. However, money talks.
Wheres T Park? Splitter was supposed to be the impact player next year.
Why don't the spurs try drafting some players from the US and stop trying to get foreign players who are locked playing in other leagues. There has to be some talent worth taking a chance on at the end of the first round.
You can't fault the guy for taking more money. I would love to see him in a Spurs jersey to see what he can do. I also think its wrong if he had given his word to come here and now turns his back. However, money talks.
You can't be serious about Oberto and Kwame being on a great team as starters.
Oh, me! That is terrible news. What a !!!
You just ed up big time Tiago.
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Isn't that guy who was the center for Dallas that was traded to New Jersey a free agent??? He did a good job on defense against Duncan. That's already a plus with Pop. He usually goes after guys who play well against us.
Exactly. The NBA has tampered with the worldwide market on basketball players by putting artificial limits on rookie contracts. This price-fixing was successful when there were no other leagues that could bid in compe ion with the NBA, but that obviously isn't true any more and this is the predictable result.
So far, this price fixing has only worked in the Euros favor on bringing Euro players over here. Let's not forget that in addition to Splitter, Javtokas also took more money to play in Europe.
But NBA price-fixing may also work in the Euros favor by allowing them to sign American players out from under the noses of NBA teams.
As they strive to improve their teams, the next move by the Euro teams may be to outbid NBA teams for lower-ranked American rookies who are salary-limited by the pay scale.
Remember that the bottom 1/3 of 1st round draft picks NEVER play on an NBA team and there have been plenty of bust-outs who were drafted higher than that.
The Euros won't even want to bid for all of them, but any player down near the bottom of the first round would have to take a look at an offer significantly over the rookie pay scale if it was a take it now or leave it offer.
The NBA better wise up quickly that they are in a salary war with the Euros and rethink the salary cap strategy.
Don't expect the rookie scale to go anywhere. You guys forget how much people like Shawn Bradley got in contracts as rookies.
BTW can someone post Tiago quotes over the past year about how he said he was coming to the Spurs. I'm interested in seeing what everyone is basing the hate off of.
Looking at this with a positive frame of mind. If Tau is offering more money with an extension, that must mean he is very good. So,if he does come to S.A, that could be a good thing. I hope he does. I guess we'll see.
Maybe he found out he got a couple of meninas de programa in Spain pregnant. No, wait, he'd be running to America if that happend!
oh, man.
you guys are upset at the guy for taking 8 times more money and a guaranteed position at starting on a winning team???? LMAO!!
this is the spurs FO's fault to court an impossible to obtain guy much like Scola. Tau Ceramica is one of the premier teams in Europe and with Scola the had the clause the Spurs could never meet. Then you have the Splitter situation where the Spurs can't meet either. Tau just does a great job at securing their assets and the Spurs FO didn't see it coming.
The European market is becoming painfully aware they spend a lot of money and time building players so the NBA pick them up with zero investment. They are getting smarter each day and won't give the good ones away for free.
Is Tau offering a fully guaranteed 5 year, $50 mil contract? No. They can't. They are simply exploiting the fact that Splitter faces a rookie scale contract if he opts for the NBA.
In the long term, a NBA career will pay off handsomely for a moderately talented player vis a vis the Spanish League.
The way to look at Splitter's situation is that he is being offered a raise in lieu of going back to grad school. But once he's done with school he stands to be paid well. Maybe he'll decide to put off school for a year and make a little coin. It's hard to fault him for that. If he told the Spurs he would absolutely be coming over this summer I can see the reason for the angst, but I'm not that broke up about it.
After all, the Spurs have a new student already in the program, and he's pretty good.
Translated from Portuguse by me:
"I cannot wait to arrive in the Alamo City to take Tim Duncan's starting job and snap at Gregg Popovich during timeouts. I can't wait to shoot the bird at or moon the likes of Mouse if I see him frolicking up and down the aisles at the AT&T Center. I will eat all of the hot San Antonio women alive. And, by the way, "eat" in Portuguese does not necessarily mean "go down on". It means I will ravage their bodies and own their souls. Oh, and I will average a triple double and lead the Spurs to a resounding championship sweep next season, which will be the franchise's sixth. My name is Tiago Splitter and I was born to be a Spur."
----source unknown, but GrandeDavid asks you to believe that Splitter said that sh!t.
Again this is crap opinion. TAU is not even rich club in Europe. They are poor compare to clubs in Spain like Barcelona and Real Madrid and even those clubs is not willing to pay even close to what CSKA or Olympiacos or PAO will pay. Barcelona, Real, PAO, Olympiacos is all BILLION dollar clubs. Richer than any NBA team.
CSKA is owned by Russia army you think any NBA team have as much cash in bank account as them?
PAO owners is probably second only to Blazers owner in money in whole world of basketball.
Europe have no salary cap, no luxury tax, no rookie scale and salaries is NET. You keep believe nonsense of 5-10 years ago where Europe play less. This is NOT true. Saras is make what is equal to $12 million per year if he is NBA from what PAO pay him amnd you really believe Europe players make more in NBA?
Any of best Europe players like Dirk or any of them will make as much or even MORE if they tell team like Olympiacos, PAO, or CSKA they want to play with them.
US fans not understand back in 1995-2000 sometimes like this how good Greek league were much better than Spanish league is today. Players like Dominique even given money enough to come there. Difference is then biggest teams were willing pay huge salary but few of best players wanted to play there even though league was very strong then.
Now difference is league is not as strong but idea of NBA and Euroleague is changing. Teams is offering huge money again and now Euroleague image is much higher and NBA much lower.
And way American fans laugh and make fun of player like Spanoulis........way coach and GM treat him. You realize he take huge pay cuts to join NBA and is promise to be starter by playoffs even by coach? He ride bench all year and have lies make up about him and mom in papers and fans even make fun of his mom.
These types of things have lower NBA reputation by about 10 times amongs best players of Europe. It have tainted image these days but some of members here can only say thing like "NBA is only thing that matter".
You are not be realistic. It will harder for Spurs to get Euro players now. Maybe when Manu leavue Euroleague is like 50 percent of NBA level but in these days it is more like 80 percent level. Manu will not be even close to as good as he were if compete in same Euroleague now. It is even much stronger than when Saras leave.
Best chance to get Euro players is ones like Papaloukas who is make clear statement they want to come NBA. But then when they say they will must have MLE fans laugh and joke about this. But even MLE is big pay cut. But NBA fans keep say stupid thing like "no player in Europe can get more than MLE".
Spurs could get player such as Papaloukas or some other veteran players like Scola but they must be willing to pay at least MLE. It sad that US fans here keep live in past it remind of the way they talks about Team USA also.
How come you don't see any NBA stars or average starters opting for those leagues? There's a reason.
He have bad dribbling for SG he must play SF and he is not big enough for this position in NBA. He have poor basketball IQ and he is play on team that is like old Suns of NBA so all his numbers is inflated. His team is not win Spanish league and he is not MVP of league, Gasol is.
Also in European Cup he play in ULEB Cup not Euroleague, this is like NBDL compare to NBA. Blazers and Spanish fans can have him because they believe some BS on how good this player is.
Oberto was not as good in Europe as Spurs fans think. He was never that good.
Team like TAU is maybe. It is hard to say. Euroleague itself is make lots of money. Teams themself hard to say. But different than US. Fans must understand if teams of Europe the big clubs decide they want compete in basketball then they can spend whatever they want.
Barcelona I think have something like $260 million in the US money in player budget for soccer team. It just depend on how much they want spend on basketball. In US fans seem believe Europe sports club is poor. Is very strange why this belief is when US clubs is ones that is poor compares to them.
As PAO fan I can assures you PAO is much richer club than any team of NBA.
Again not true. Scola was already make much more in Spain than he could make in NBA. Also Olympiacos gave him offer before was about 5 million Euro net per year. He will never make such contract in NBA but he is get big shoe contract from Rockets because owner there is part of Chinese shoe company.
hmmm I think that most Spurs fan realize that Oberto is an average center at best.
Those Chinese shoe contracts give the Rockets an adavantage over every other team in the NBA
He is in hype machines just like Rudy Fernandez.
Do you have math problem? In NBA salary is BEFORE taxes, these big club salaries in Europe is AFTER taxes. Maybe you can have accountant explain to you.
So the European leagues are for players to run home to who can't cut it in the NBA.And way American fans laugh and make fun of player like Spanoulis........way coach and GM treat him. You realize he take huge pay cuts to join NBA and is promise to be starter by playoffs even by coach? He ride bench all year and have lies make up about him and mom in papers and fans even make fun of his mom.
The guaranteed money isn't there, which is the attraction of the NBA. In addition to the fact that the NBA is the most visible and marketed professional basketball league on planet Earth. Saying the Euroleagues are a viable option is like saying that the MLS is on par with the Premiership.
When the Euroleagues start handing out $40 mil+ long term guaranteed contracts like candy to moderately talented bigs let me know.
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