Tiago Splitter Close to Signing Two-Year Extension with Tau

[urunobili]

If hes going for money, WTF is Pop gonna do other than sell him on taking less money.

I don't see how its on anyone but Splitter. He knew the guidelines, he knew it last year, its like all of a sudden he was told he was gonna make a crap salary for a couple years last week.

as funny as it seems... i think that is the case... he may just realized that he maybe even losing money paying rent and getting a decent car if he came over here... and... for more than one year... exiting isn't it?

[rascal]

You is one with delusion. If you believe nonsense you say about NBA image in Europe. NBA is nothing in Europe these days. There is only very few people try follow it like me. Even biggest basketball fans in most countries never even watch single NBA games in Europe these days.

I guess you is fooled by NBA marketing?

In China NBA is see as you talk about it but Europe is not China.

Agree some people cannot see outside their little boxes and from an American point of view which is removed from the rest of the world. There is a big world outside the United States that does not care about basketball.

[T Park]

as funny as it seems... i think that is the case... he may just realized that he maybe even losing money paying rent and getting a decent car if he came over here... and... for more than one year... exiting isn't it?

I honestly find it hard to believe, that he is that stupid.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

How many more years on his contract? And whats he being paid?

He have 2 years left on contract with no buyout cost. He make 1.67 million euro plus he get Spurs contract buyout over contract so this is 246,000 euro each year. So he get 1,916,000 euro each year. This salary is net he pay no taxes.

He also get 200,000 euro each year for car, expenses, bills, house and all these also tax free. In NBA these would be count as salary so 2,116,000 euro net.

If figure exchange rate this equal $3,281,000 for each year in US money net. Then they figure for Euroleague to compare with NBA that in NBA player in such salary levels pay 35% tax. So to get $3,281,000 net in NBA this means salary must be in NBA equal of $5,047,000 NBA salary as report on NBA salary cap. Problem is because dollar keep drop these Euro salary keep getting higher compare to NBA.

Also Spanoulis take smaller contract from PAO. Olympiacos, Barcelona, Real, TAU, CSKA, Efes all offer him 300,000 euros net more salary than he get from PAO. 300,000 euros is like 465,000 US dollars. Figure the no taxes and this mean in NBA money this like $716,000 salary because NBA money is before taxes.

So he actual turn down $5,763,000 per year in the way NBA count salary from other clubs. He give PAO discount because they let him leave his contract before to try NBA with Rockets. Again dollar keep dropping so contract in Europe keep getting bigger. So this last summer about same as NBA contract of $5.8 million per year is what his value is for Europe. So as can see for him to go to NBA like Rockets and ride bench and take less money is very hard to accept. If go NBA and give team big discount he would expect to play and this is what Spurs would need agree with.

[Don Quixote]

παντων δε το τελος ηγγικεν σωφρονησατε ουν και νηψατε εις προσευχας

[diego]

splitter may have known how much he'd get in the NBA, but he probably didnt know that TAU would offer that much more. 8 times more pay? for half the work? and not having to move? that's a no brainer.

this may irritate the out of us spurs fans, but it really shouldnt be a surprise. people who sacrifice and gamble are much harder to come by than people who are cautious and comfortable.

the only silver lining is the potential "no buy-out", which means it'll be easier to trade him or pick him up two years down the road. Personally, i dont think he'll leave europe if it means taking a 8x pay cut.

[TDMVPDPOY]

question is wtf spends 200k each year on expenses?

[TDMVPDPOY]

splitter may have known how much he'd get in the NBA, but he probably didnt know that TAU would offer that much more. 8 times more pay? for half the work? and not having to move? that's a no brainer.

this may irritate the out of us spurs fans, but it really shouldnt be a surprise. people who sacrifice and gamble are much harder to come by than people who are cautious and comfortable.

the only silver lining is the potential "no buy-out", which means it'll be easier to trade him or pick him up two years down the road. Personally, i dont think he'll leave europe if it means taking a 8x pay cut.

dude stephen jackson did the sacrificed route and it paid off for him....and how old was he when he pulled that move? it paid off for him

[pad300]

The talent level is the same but D-League teams aren't as good as French league teams because their roster always changes and isn't well built with some players playing out of position.

At 19 years old, Mahinmi was a 10/5 player in French league. I don't think he failed the year after in Pau because he was to raw or he hadn't the ProA level.

It should be noted that this business of 20/10 in the NBADL vs. 10/5 in French A is at least partially because he gets minutes in the NBADL...

He averaged 4.3 points and 3.2 rebounds in 12.7 minutes in the 2006-07 season, helping the team win the French Cup.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfil...er=ian_mahinmi

30.2 MPG, 17.1 PPG, 8.2 RPG in the 07/08 D-League.

He's also a year older, and that much more developed...

Also, someone in this thread attempted to downgrade Ian by saying he's following in Amir Johnson's footsteps. Amir Johnson doesn't play that much because there are a lot of vets in Detroit, but he's pretty productive when he does...

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2008/02/...-amir-johnson/

Amir fouls too much (just like Ian), but getting 20 MPG (productive minutes at that) out of him is definately doable. IIRC we tried to sign Amir this offseason. I wouldn't mind seeing an Amir clone alongside TD, especially as compared to our other big men.

[samikeyp]

The old USA Dream Team with Shaq, Jordan, Bird, Magic, would have destroyed any team today anywhere in the world.

Shaq wasn't on the Dream Team with Jordan, Bird and Magic.

[remingtonbo2001]

If hes going for money, WTF is Pop gonna do other than sell him on taking less money.

I don't see how its on anyone but Splitter. He knew the guidelines, he knew it last year, its like all of a sudden he was told he was gonna make a crap salary for a couple years last week.

He's had success doing so in the past.

[T Park]

With who?

Whos been a FA with the Spurs taht he convinced to take less money and stay with the Spurs for less?

[Bruno]

Popovich needs to pull a Riley, blow off Game 5, and head to Brazil.

We need Splitter. We need him NOW.

The Spanish league final will end up after the WCF (even if the series goes to 7).

If it's true that Splitter will sign his contract only after the Spanish final and if Lakers beat Spurs, I think Pop should go in Spain and speak directly to Splitter.

[stxspurs]

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[T Park]

Tpark time to change the sig

Yeah I just thought the same thing.

[samikeyp]

With who?

Whos been a FA with the Spurs taht he convinced to take less money and stay with the Spurs for less?

Sean Elliott.


Of course that was a long time ago.

Recently I don't think so. I remember when Denver wanted Manu really bad and were going to offer him a ton of cash. He was an RFA...did Denver ever give him an offer sheet for the Spurs to match?

[urunobili]

The Spanish league final will end up after the WCF (even if the series goes to 7).

If it's true that Splitter will sign his contract only after the Spanish final and if Lakers beat Spurs, I think Pop should go in Spain and speak directly to Splitter.

so what the conversation would be about? "Tiago you will be an important piece and you'll get plenty of playing time right away?"

[stxspurs]

tiago puh puh puh please come to san antonio oh and here are some puffy tacos

[ehz33satx]

Money can't compare to the experience of playing with and against the world's greatest players.

If you were him would you rather ride the bench all year playing for Pop since he does not give rookies much of a chance, or would you rather make 8 times the amount of money and get significant playing time overseas? It's Popovich's fault for always choosing to go with old men. Pop REFUSES to give youth a chance, and that will be the Spurs downfall.

[JamStone]

dude stephen jackson did the sacrificed route and it paid off for him....and how old was he when he pulled that move? it paid off for him

Are you sure?

Didn't he not re-sign with the Spurs because he wanted more money than they could offer? And, when he didn't have any other team offering what he wanted, he signed with Atlanta because he knew he would get a lot of minutes to pad his stats? He did it because that was his best option, not because he sacrificed to win. I don't think that's a "sacrificing route" that is a very good analogy.

[stxspurs]

well spurs are ed only till the big 3 are left on the books

[Man of Steel]

ESPN column stated that Splitter is only considering Tau's offer and that Spurs officials were traveling to talk to him in person.

[T Park]

Are you sure?

Didn't he not re-sign with the Spurs because he wanted more money than they could offer? And, when he didn't have any other team offering what he wanted, he signed with Atlanta because he knew he would get a lot of minutes to pad his stats? He did it because that was his best option, not because he sacrificed to win. I don't think that's a "sacrificing route" that is a very good analogy.

Yeah the Spurs offered 3 years 12 million, he turned that down, and then settled for 1 year for whatever with Atlanta, then got a good sized contract with Indiana.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

WTF is wrong with all you people ? Vent all you want at Tiago for not coming but c'mon...we have 3 Rings in 5 years. Back away from all the smack on RC and Pop.

No doubt we need to get younger but the truth is, Splitter is still an option in 2 years and I still have confidence that we can draft and acquire players through FA that will help us.

This news sucks but we've all seen that being young doesn't necessarily win you anything. We still have a solid core with Bruce, Tim, Tony and Manu. We need to find a bench.

Maybe: Antwan Jamison, Matt Barnes, Michael Pietrus

Is Brent Barry going to be a UFA or is it a player option ? He deserves another year. He was playing great until he got injured and seems to be playing well again.

Just curious how much longer you think Tim is going to be great. The window is closing by the year.

[Saguaro]

Now not even second-rate Euros want to join your decrepit-ass team!