Is Kobe the best player since Jordan ?

[Medvedenko]

Lebron will overtake Kobe....and maybe others as well. That's how it goes when the years go by....however since his airness. Kobe has been the best wing player in the NBA. He's now entering the actual comparison discussion.

[MiamiHeat]

lol

Phil rests Kobe for entire quarters to save him for the 4th quarter where every play is run through Kobe to make him look good

how do you think Phil Jackson accomplishes this?

Because the rest of the Lakers are stacked. they dont need Kobe.

[Lake_show]

LeBron is way ahead of where Kobe was at that age. Kobe had Shaq. LeBron has zippo and made it to the finals last year. Didn't he score 20-something straight points against the Pistons in the ECF last year?

The West is a whole different ballgame.

[Bob Lanier]

And here I thought we were talking about the past, not the future.

One of them is certain.

[dbreiden83080]

Duncan is still the best player in the post-jordan era. Kobe's career will be seen in 2 parts. What he did as Shaq's sidekick and what he will do now with his own team. Tim led and was the man on 4 le teams, now Kobe must be the man and get it done to the tune of rings.

[MiamiHeat]

I think i'm going to become a baseball/nfl fan only. I hate how 1 cheating rip-off trade can ruin the league because players are more important on a small nba roster

[dbreiden83080]

The best player since Jordan?

1. Shaq
2. Duncan
3. Kobe
4. Lebron.

In that order. But over the course of his career, Lebron will eclipse all of them, including Jordan.

More like

Duncan
Shaq
Kobe
Lebron

[Lake_show]

LeBron is way ahead of where Kobe was at that age. Kobe had Shaq. LeBron has zippo and made it to the finals last year. Didn't he score 20-something straight points against the Pistons in the ECF last year?

Don't compare him to Lebron. Lebron cant shoot, he cant defend, hes the team leader and his teammates cannot count on him closing the game up or making the clutch shots because he cant. He is no where near to being as good as Kobe and at age 23, he has accomplished nothing.

[TheMACHINE]

I think Offensivly, Kobe is better than Jordan...Jordan is still the best overall tho.

[dbreiden83080]

Don't compare him to Lebron. Lebron cant shoot, he cant defend, hes the team leader and his teammates cannot count on him closing the game up or making the clutch shots because he cant. He is no where near to being as good as Kobe and at age 23, he has accomplished nothing.

Lebron has 3 rings just like Kobe if he plays with Shaq though.

[ImmortalD24]

1. Kobe
2. Shaq
3. Lebron
4. Duncan

This isn't based on accomplishments, Duncan was never considered the best player in the league.

[Lake_show]

1. Kobe
2. Shaq
3. Lebron
4. Duncan

This isn't based on accomplishments, Duncan was never considered the best player in the league.

1 year he was.

[atxrocker]

don't get me wrong now, Bryant is an amazing basketball player and a champion for sure. as much as you might try to not like the guys game, he just goes out there on the court and shoves it down your ing throat how talented he is. now is he equal or better than MJ? not just yet, that is a rather high ing bar to reach. i guess when his career is over we'll really know the answer.

[atxrocker]

and lebron continues to be overrated. dude hasn't proven a mother ing thing.

[dbreiden83080]

Don't compare him to Lebron. Lebron cant shoot, he cant defend, hes the team leader and his teammates cannot count on him closing the game up or making the clutch shots because he cant. He is no where near to being as good as Kobe and at age 23, he has accomplished nothing.

Lebron's Jumper is just OK but he is only 23 and i gurantee you by age 26 or 27 he will be burying that jumper in a defenders face like nobody's business, he is bigger, stronger and more athletic than Kobe. His D does need a lot of work though.

[dbreiden83080]

1. Kobe
2. Shaq
3. Lebron
4. Duncan

This isn't based on accomplishments, Duncan was never considered the best player in the league.

LOL, WTF are you smoking?? Duncan was easily the best player in the league from 2001-2005 he won back to back league MVP's genius and led the Spurs to 2 les, finals MVP both times.

You have Kobe ahead of Duncan with ZERO finals MVP's and Lebron ahead of him with Zero les, what a joke.

[odogg726]

If the hand check was allowed in today's game, maybe Kobe would be on par with Jordan defensively

[JamStone]

I think they said on the broadcast that Kobe shot 53% for the series. 53% for a perimeter player who probably averaged around 20 FGA a game and didn't really go to the free throw line against the San Antonio Spurs.

That's crazy.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I think they said on the broadcast that Kobe shot 53% for the series. 53% for a perimeter player who probably averaged around 20 FGA a game and didn't really go to the free throw line against the San Antonio Spurs.

That's crazy.

and how many of them points came in scrub minutes or when bowen wasnt defending or on the court with him?

CP3 also padded his stats in those blowout wins against us....

[JamStone]

and how many of them points came in scrub minutes or when bowen wasnt defending or on the court with him?

I would guess 15% or less.

[MiamiHeat]

If the hand check was allowed in today's game, maybe Kobe would be on par with Jordan defensively

if the hand check and all the other rules they changed to make more scorers (kobe, lebron etc)

jordan would have been so good offensively, this thread would never exist.

[Dim Tuncan]

if the hand check and all the other rules they changed to make more scorers (kobe, lebron etc)

Yeah... All those rules they changed.... Like permiting the zone defense....


NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXT.................

[SAtown]

Bryant is light years ahead of anyone else in the league. He is easily the second best player that has ever played the game

[DazedAndConfused]

Lebron James will never be as complete a player as Kobe Bryant is. Never.

He isn't of the same mold as Bryant or MJ. His strength is his power game. He can finish and get to the rim far better than Kobe or MJ ever could in their athletic primes. That's where he excels. His jumpshot IS and will always be mediocre at best. He doesn't have the finesse or the touch and that is really something you either have or you don't. When all is said and done Lebron James will be remembered as Lebron James, not the heir to Kobe or Jordan. He is a unique player, the likes of which this league has never seen.......but he is not even close to being as complete a player as Kobe or MJ.

[21_Blessings]

Lebronze's post game is pitiful for someone his size/speed. He's all athleticism and won't be nearly as dominate in his 30's like MJ was or Kobe will be.