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i really hope that if we are planning to take him in the first, were also trading up for another 1st.
Yea count me on the Chalmers bandwagon... reading all of the latest posts on this thread have really made me start liking the idea of getting chalmers as the back up PG compared to other backup PG in the draft especially for the second round. If they went with one in the second round then he more than likely would not pan out or not as fast as Chalmers... I feel he is already ready and will fit the role and other needed roles nicely. Then using their MLE for a swingman or two.
BTW will the draft be on ESPN like the NFL draft is?
i really hope that if we are planning to take him in the first, were also trading up for another 1st.
If your going to draft a kid you need to contribute right away, it's best that they can
have an effect on the game with their energy, and hustle. Young fellas are going to make mistakes, but energy and hustle allows them to contribute and earn minutes while they learn. Chalmers can certainly do that with the way he plays defense, and it doesn't hurt that the kid can knock down a shot either.
I'm all for drafting a wing with upside in the second round, and letting him develop with the Toros. I think whatever other player(s) we bring in (trade/free-agency) should be veteran enough to help over the next two years.
I don't care if the players we bring in are thirty or so, as long as they can compliment the big 3 over the next couple of years. Guys like Posey would be ideal. Guys that still have enough athleticism to mix in with some veteran savy.
So hopefully we're able to aquire a veteran (wing/fourth-scorer) through trade or free-agency, and Mahinmi/Chalmers can be a little like Johnson/Stuckey were for Detroit last year.
I highly doubt the Spurs will be able to trade up to get two first rounders... we simply don't have enough trade bait to do that with. The Spurs will more than likely have to stay with the picks they already have.
Count me in this bandwagon also, i don't think any of the swingmen available in the draft will contribute right away
The problem is which swingmen will fit in with the mle, sorry but kelenna and J.R are far worse defenders than finley, it doesn't bode too well...
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That might derail Chalmers to SA.
Maybe. Although I think he has more value to a team like the Spurs than most of the teams picking in front.
Horse hockey!
The Spurs need both - a FA swingman and one via the draft. Remember they will not only be replacing Finley this year, but Barry likely next year.
Exactly.
Hopefully, he'll be less brittle than Claxton.
I would still rather them focus on the swing player first. However, as some have already stated, if the favored swing players (Rush, Batum) are gone. I could undertand this pick in the first round. This draft is deeper in swingmen, so the possiblity of getting project swingman in in the 2nd round could be more favorable than getting a quality backup PG.
Besides, I don't want to endure another season of seeing Jacque Vaughn as the primary backup PG
Last edited by SenorSpur; 06-16-2008 at 03:53 PM.
The Spurs need a backup point. They also need a starting quality 2. Of those needs, it would be far easier to find someone at #26 to backup Tony, knock down some perimeter shots, and defend for 12 to 15 minutes a night instead of finding someone able to step in next season and score 15 a night in 30 minutes.
Free agency will be used to address the swingman spot.
I think we need to add a slasher at the wing via FA regardless of who we draft in the first round. So I wouldn't necessarily view a swing in the draft as a necessity.
Totally understand that strategy. In fact, it makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Now, it would be delicious drama to see what the Spurs would do if, say, both Batum and Chalmers were available @ #26.
Agree. Which is why I tout the acquisition of Pietrus as the logical first choice to step into the starting 2 spot for the Spurs next year.
If I'm correct on this, the Spurs gave away next year's 1st round pick to the Sonics in the Kurt Thomas trade.
Now the Spurs need Chalmers more than ever since Parker is going to be kinda in the same boat as Manu playing this summer... Pop will be wanting to get his big 3 as much rest as he can afford for the playoffs. So someone like Chalmers will play even a bigger role in the regular season... I bet they seriously go after Chalmers now.
Right. All the more reason they'll be looking for a 'sure thing' at #26.
If that will indeed be their strategy, I wonder what project swingman has the potential to be available with their 2nd round pick?
Gary Forbes, JR Giddens maybe.
Both sound even less enticing that last year's Marcus Williams pick.
IMO, the urgency around getting a young swingman to develop this year (even if it's the 2nd round) is that the Spurs DO NOT have a 1st round pick next season. The chosen guy will likely need at least 1-2 years in the Spurs system.
Getting the FA swingman is a must. However getting yet another young swingman to develop is also essential. Maybe they'll give DeMarr Johnson a longer look or maybe they can nab one off the waiver wire.
Maybe they'll use their MLE to address that issue.
You're saying exactly why I'm not on the Chalmers bandwagon. While I like him a lot we need to go for a scoring wing.
im torn between chalmers and lee at this point. i guess i will just keep praying the spurs put in a bid to buy another pick from somebody (like denver). lee at #20 and then chalmers at #26 would be a very good day for me.
Giddens is a pretty good athlete and showed NBA range as early as his freshman year in Lawrence. And, while he is only 6'5, he has a 7'0 wingspan to go with it.
His problems in the past have been off the court issues, on the court at ude, being extremely passive on defense, and an extreme willingness to shoot long contested jumpshots over driving the ball to the rim.
However, it appeared that Steve Alford lit a fire under him this past year and none of these things were much of an issue.
He may remind Pop/RC enough of SJax that they would gamble on him as their project player. He has a higher ceiling than guys like Rush or CDR, but at a much higher risk.
On the other hand - I think somebody else may have already mentioned this (if not, feel free to give me full credit) - Giddens transferring from KU was MORE than mutual. A rocky past with RC's buddy Bill Self may sour the Spurs on him as a prospect.
I'm not sure there is a guy who has a shot to be there at 26 who can really be counted on to be a scoring wing. Rush certainly isn't, and probably will be gone by then anyways.
I like CDR and Lee a lot, but how much can be counted on them next year is really up in the air. And they're both the types of players that (at least as of right now) if they're shots aren't following - they're not doing much to help you.
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