Were the officials also responsible for the Blazers missing 13 consecutive shots that allowed the Lakers to comeback?
None of the players that year were ejected in the 1st quarter of their respected games. Iverson was ejected in the 4th (2:53 remaining), Miller was ejected in the 3rd (1:19 remaining), Wallace was ejected in the 3rd (6:43 remaining), Cassell and Davis were ejected in the 4th (6:00 remaining), and Rick Fox was ejected late in the 4th.
BTW, amid my research I found another player that was ejected in that year's Playoffs that wasn't listed in the box scores, but he definitely could not be considered a "star" - Matt Geiger was ejected in the 3rd quarter (1:19 left).
Were the officials also responsible for the Blazers missing 13 consecutive shots that allowed the Lakers to comeback?
No, this is not me under a different user name.
You guys should listen to Gailileo, this guy gets it.
Th NBA has ALWAYS been about capitalism. It's in business to make money, for crying out loud! That is how it works in this country. And if they are entertaining, they will make money. This is not a socialist en y filled with conspiracies. Step away from the degenerate gambler and move on with your frickin' lives.
Ask him about 9/11.
No other sport has had consistent and persistent questions about the honesty of its management and referees for the past fifty years.
No other sport has allowed referees/officials who were suspended for cause (such as the airline ticket scandal) to return to officiating.
Basketball is the easiest sport to 'fix'. It should be seen to be 'purer than Caesar's wife' instead of the common perception that something has been rotten in the NBA systematically for 50 years.
could be, if they were getting fouled and the fouls weren't being called. You may have a case if the Blazers missed 13 consecutive free throws.
[QUOTE=Kindergarten Cop;2601717][QUOTE=Galileo;2600728]I can't tell which player and official Donaghy is talking about from this data.
It important to remember that one objection to Donaghy is that he picked the most obvious games and claimed they were fixed. That theory is debunked right here.
Another thing to remember about Donaghy as that what he says is not a theory, he is an expert eyewitness to the events, so what Donaghy says is not a conspiracy theory.
We should also remember that these statemants by Donaghy were made a long time ago and were sealed, the statements we have seen are only court summaries. More specific detail will be found in the court records.
Last edited by Galileo; 06-17-2008 at 03:09 PM.
Good points.
Other questions:
Why would Joey Crawford EVER be assigned to work a Spurs playoff game after what happened last year?
How was Tim Donaghy rated high enough to be reffing second round playoff games?
Thank you for the blast from the past. What you say is certainly something to chew on.
I put an asterick behind the 2000 Lakers. I remember that game and couldn't belive my eyes.
I remember the 1983 Western Conference Finals. At the time, I was rooting for the Spurs and was a big Artis Gilmore fan. Gilmore was better than Jabber at that time in my opinion, especially because Jabber was a horrible rebounder for a center. It seemed like the ball never bounced quite the right way for the Spurs to win that series.
That's a great one liner.
You outta forward that to David Stern!
rockets-mavs when the rockets were up 2-0. Cuban complained to Stern about it. ill get the video in a sec
Thanks for the kudos.
I'm from Milwaukee, and my friend (who opposes 9/11 conspiracy theories, ChumpDumper) brings up the 2001 Eastern Conference Finals. I believe that Bucks starter Scott Williams was ejected, but then they upgraded it to a suspension (for game 7) and Philadelphia (Iverson) won a grueling series.
Philly won pivotal game 5 by one point.
Milwaukee is a classic small-market team. They never got over the hump since 1971, and have barely even gotten to the hump since then, despite being a quality franchise only one or two notches below the Spurs.
This series is another good area for research.
12 Tue, May 22, 2001 @ Philadelphia 76ers L 85 93 7 5 L 1
13 Thu, May 24, 2001 @ Philadelphia 76ers W 92 78 8 5 W 1
14 Sat, May 26, 2001 Philadelphia 76ers W 80 74 9 5 W 2
15 Mon, May 28, 2001 Philadelphia 76ers L 83 89 9 6 L 1
16 Wed, May 30, 2001 @ Philadelphia 76ers L 88 89 9 7 L 2
17 Fri, Jun 1, 2001 Philadelphia 76ers W 110 100 10 7 W 1
18 Sun, Jun 3, 2001 @ Philadelphia 76ers L 91 108 10 8 L 1
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...001_games.html
Game 5, 2001 Eastern Conference Finals:
Score
Philly 89
Bucks 88
Fouls
Philly 18
Bucks 26
Free Throws
Philly 28
Bucks 16
Fouled Out
Philly none
Bucks Ervin Johnson (starter)
Foul Trouble (5 fouls)
Philly none
Bucks Sam Cassell (starter)
I wonder who the refs were?
Does anyone here think that the league fixed games in their team's favor?
Does anybody here support over-hyped big market teams with over-rated over-hyped superstars?
Take a look at Stern's denials. He just uses political talking points, no specifics. Is Stern saying that everything Donaghy says is wrong or just some of what he says is wrong? We don't know. If everything Donaghy said was wrong, how could his gambling info be accurate?
Fact is, Bavetta and Delaney are worse than Donaghy. Bavetta and Delaney were fixing playoff games that changed the course of NBA history, not regular season games.
This whole sordid affair has only increased my affection for the Spurs, they had to beat not only their opponents, but also David Stern.
Last edited by Galileo; 06-17-2008 at 03:12 PM.
So in your case, the answer is a predictable no.
Anyone else?
I remember watching that series and thinking that Milwaukee was getting the shaft from the officials over and over again.
Good reference point for sure, it was another classic NBA fix job.
So Lanny thinks the NBA is rigged against the Lakers and Galileo thinks the NBA is rigged against the Spurs.
The two of you need to compare notes on the Spurs/Lakers series of the past.
NBA Turns a Blind Eye... Again
by Tim Donaghy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-do..._b_482516.html
Dongahy's so courageous. He's like Jesus or Rosa Parks. He's not just a guy trying to hock his book.
And Stern isn't trying to hock the NBA.
Not sure why you'd spend any time on an NBA site if you actually believed it. But then again, you don't.
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