Contract Negotiations Could Be Stopped if Manu Goes To Olympics

[Brutalis]

This is why I love Pop and this Spurs and also why we have been successful.

The NBA is the pro's. It's the big boys league and majority of those Olympic teams couldn't hold a flame to even the Cavaliers.

People need to realize, most smart Americans don't give a flip about your stupid little Olympic basketball. It's soft, calls are nothing but favoritism, and the tournament itself holds no glory to anything that matters. We will not respect you just cause you stroked 30 points in the Olympics. It means nothing. Nobody cares about the minor league bull .

[tinysands]

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/EdicionIm...ota_id=1023444

"The reality is that if Manu is well ankle in three weeks, will go to the Games, and that if not recovered, will not go. And because there will not be able to play. This is true. There are no further rounds." Carlos Prunes, owner of those words, is much more than the representative and attorney Manu Ginóbili: it is one of his closest friends, which sometimes do not need to talk to understand.

On the possible extension of his contract with the Spurs bahiense, Prunes clarified: "There was a further exchange of views between its U.S. agent, Herb rudoyer, and managers of the team in the playoffs, but there are no negotiations, because NBA rules prohibit them until July 7. The possibility would be two or three more years, ie since 2010, when the current contract expires, and until 2012 or 2013 ".

With serenity, but also with great firmness, Prunes added: "Never nobody told us that the extension of the agreement would not be if Manu decides to go to Beijing. It may be that someone has given to understand this or that U.S. journalism has made this analysis, but there is no such condition. The 7 or July 8, Manu will be submitted to a new review in the Spurs and if the ankle injury in the faded, he will go to the Games. And there is no doubt that wants go and who will do the utmost to be recovered and travel with the selection. All he had warned the angry when he arrived in Buenos Aires and said what he had said in San Antonio. Fortunately, after the studies they did here, with Dr. Diego Grippo at the helm, and a group of specialists, changed its humor and its expectation. Manu decided to stay this time in Bahia Blanca to make the recommended treatments and put in a position ".

Prunes told other details: "One of the doctors who saw him in Buenos Aires studied in the U.S. and has a friend in the medical profession for the Spurs, with whom she contacted to inform you of what is being done" . And concluded: "Sergio Hernandez told Manu who was waiting for him until the last day before the Games. Manu told him that if he was not recovered 25 days earlier would not go to avoid prejudicing the team. Today (yesterday) I spoke for one hour phone with him and is very well ".

found this news from Argentina media, one of Manu's friends clarified some rumors.

[Brutalis]

Good. If Manu wants to be a dumbass and play in this little wee wee Olympics injured, then I'm off his fan list.

[Lake_show]

Kobe will end his Olympic hopes this year also.

[v2freak]

The Olympics are a huge deal to international players. Pressuring them not to play is selfish, imo.

Well now that's interesting. Maybe we can ask Kori to add an option for people that are on this board. Instead of putting the Spurs as "favorite team" (which is an obvious lie for many), they should put their country of choice. Even if this is a Spurs board, it is quite clear that many fans have a different agenda and prefer to follow just one or two players because of their nationality. It is not selfish to think from a business perspective. I commend the Spurs for what they are doing; at the same time, I want to berate them for being so late in taking action. Don't you think making more money than the average person could hope requires some loyalty too?

IMO.

[leo_d]

if the Olimpics means so little, why is USA using the best players in the NBA to get the gold back?

[v2freak]

Unfortunately, the objectives of those in charge of "restoring basketball glory to the United States" and those who run franchises are usually different.

[KidCongo]

This is why I love Pop and this Spurs and also why we have been successful.

The NBA is the pro's. It's the big boys league and majority of those Olympic teams couldn't hold a flame to even the Cavaliers.

People need to realize, most smart Americans don't give a flip about your stupid little Olympic basketball. It's soft, calls are nothing but favoritism, and the tournament itself holds no glory to anything that matters. We will not respect you just cause you stroked 30 points in the Olympics. It means nothing. Nobody cares about the minor league bull .

Watch it! Cavs are a contender in the east.

[Obstructed_View]

The Spurs' staff have spent a lot of time holding Manu back because he's demonstrated a complete inability to put his health first when it comes to competing. The Spurs also pay Manu a load of money, and know that the Argentine olympic team doesn't particularly give a if Manu destroys his health in order to win them a gold medal. The Spurs should have some say in whether or not he plays in the Olympics, and it would be negligence on their part if they didn't do everything they could to protect their investment. They have to be able to exert as much control as they can from afar, and if that means offering a contract extension two years early in order to have some leverage against him while he's mulling this decision, then I'm all for it.

Manu in a suit sitting behind the bench is useless to the Spurs, even with a gold medal around his neck.

[smeagol]

yeah manu never plays less then 100%

Manu has said this, you slow-witted bag.

Check the last post on page two of this thread.

[manubili]

Manu played the WC in 2002 = 2003 ring

Manu played Olympics in 2004 = 2005 ring

Manu played WC in 2006 = 2007 ring

Manu rested in 2003, 2005 and 2007, and you know what happened the following year.

So "tired", my ass. We should be worried if Manu rests ths summer.

[diego]

manu is such a dumb ass. he played injured for 17 games for the team that pays him, didnt get the spurs any rings or glory by doing so, and is now looking at irreparable damage to his ankle. his career is ruined. the poor spurs are the first team to be victim to injury, and those vile argentines who have the nerve to send their best players to the olympics. its not like the US ever sent magic, jordan, kobe or lebron to such tournaments. its all manu and argentina's fault! poor poor spurs! oh noes! if only manu had never played for argentina, the spurs would have never have found him, and he would never have risked his career for any teams, professional or otherwise, and that way us poor poor fans wouldnt have to worry sick from our computer desks!


ing grow a pair already. are you people going to spend the entire off season ing about a problem that doesnt even exist? and is totally out of your control anyways?

, bush might confuse the nuclear war button with his alarm clock and destroy the world, I guess that means i should stop loving my wife, raising my kid, expanding my business, because there's a chance things might not work our how i'm planning. eek!

[ShoogarBear]

I call BS on Pop demanding that the "mystery wife" come back to San Antonio. Di on't believe it for one, and if it did happen, are the SA reporters so lame that they would cover that up?

[spurschick]

I call BS on Pop demanding that the "mystery wife" come back to San Antonio. Di on't believe it for one, and if it did happen, are the SA reporters so lame that they would cover that up?

That does seem a bit out of character. The only time I've seen him get involved on that level is during the finals when he felt that the players were distracted and had the wives moved to a different hotel. Certainly not a popular decision, but I'm sure it's not something he wanted to do but felt necessary.

[Phenomanul]

People forget the aftermath of the harsh 2004 series loss to the Lakers...

Manu played and earned his country's first Olympic Gold in Basketball - beating Team USA on his path.

Despite Ginobili's lack of offseason rest, the Spurs win the 2005 NBA Championship (with Ginobili producing his best postseason to date)

In contrast: Manu rested this past summer (played by far his best regular season), but unfortunately was injured for the playoffs.

If he is healthy let him defend his country's Olympic Gold. If not then no. I however don't buy the argument that Ginobili must rest to be effective the following season.

See 2004-2005, and 2007-2008 for reference.

[ShoogarBear]

That does seem a bit out of character. The only time I've seen him get involved on that level is during the finals when he felt that the players were distracted and had the wives moved to a different hotel. Certainly not a popular decision, but I'm sure it's not something he wanted to do but felt necessary.

And that's something that falls within the traditionally-accepted boundaries of what a coach does. Ordering what a spouse does on her own time, whether business or personal, is not. And that just doesn't sound like Pop.

[Spurtacus]

Spurs have to look out for their interests. Manu playing on an injured ankle in the Olympics can seriously affect the Spurs 08/09 season. I hope his ankle recovers so he can play for Argentina. If the injury still lingers, he needs to sit it out.

[urunobili]

Manu played the WC in 2002 = 2003 ring

Manu played Olympics in 2004 = 2005 ring

Manu played WC in 2006 = 2007 ring

Manu rested in 2003, 2005 and 2007, and you know what happened the following year.

So "tired", my ass. We should be worried if Manu rests ths summer.

Best post of the thread so far...

[Spurtacus]

Manu played the WC in 2002 = 2003 ring

Manu played Olympics in 2004 = 2005 ring

Manu played WC in 2006 = 2007 ring

Manu rested in 2003, 2005 and 2007, and you know what happened the following year.

So "tired", my ass. We should be worried if Manu rests ths summer.

Did he have an ankle injury in 02, 04 and 06?

[smeagol]

People forget the aftermath of the harsh 2004 series loss to the Lakers...

Manu played and earned his country's first Olympic Gold in Basketball - beating Team USA on his path.

Despite Ginobili's lack of offseason rest, the Spurs win the 2005 NBA Championship (with Ginobili producing his best postseason to date)

In contrast: Manu rested this past summer (played by far his best regular season), but unfortunately was injured for the playoffs.

If he is healthy let him defend his country's Olympic Gold. If not then no. I however don't buy the argument that Ginobili must rest to be effective the following season.

See 2004-2005, and 2007-2008 for reference.

Good post

[T Park]

People forget the aftermath of the harsh 2004 series loss to the Lakers...

Manu played and earned his country's first Olympic Gold in Basketball - beating Team USA on his path.

Despite Ginobili's lack of offseason rest, the Spurs win the 2005 NBA Championship (with Ginobili producing his best postseason to date)

In contrast: Manu rested this past summer (played by far his best regular season), but unfortunately was injured for the playoffs.

If he is healthy let him defend his country's Olympic Gold. If not then no. I however don't buy the argument that Ginobili must rest to be effective the following season.

See 2004-2005, and 2007-2008 for reference.

What about 06 07 when he rested that summer and lead them to a ring?

[ShoogarBear]

People forget the aftermath of the harsh 2004 series loss to the Lakers...

Manu played and earned his country's first Olympic Gold in Basketball - beating Team USA on his path.

Despite Ginobili's lack of offseason rest, the Spurs win the 2005 NBA Championship (with Ginobili producing his best postseason to date)

In contrast: Manu rested this past summer (played by far his best regular season), but unfortunately was injured for the playoffs.

If he is healthy let him defend his country's Olympic Gold. If not then no. I however don't buy the argument that Ginobili must rest to be effective the following season.

See 2004-2005, and 2007-2008 for reference.

First, I'm not sure that's cause and effect, but just coincidence.

Second, Manu's not getting younger, and I think you have to assume that his proneness for injury and need for rest are going to increase, not decrease.

[manubili]

What about 06 07 when he rested that summer and lead them to a ring?

In 2006 he played the World Championship, and got the NT to the semi-finals against Spain. I don't call that resting.

I'm not saying that in order to win, Spurs need a tired Manu. But there's no conecction between "not playing for the National Team" and a better performance in the following season, specially in the playoffs.

[bigfan]

I would bet most, if not all, professional players, esp those who have already competed in the Olympics, would love to take a pass on them if they could without pissing off everyone in their home country (including those playing for the US team). This is just another reason that the Olympics should be for amateurs only. Once you go pro, there are too many responsibilities to play for free and risk everything.

[v2freak]

In 2006 he played the World Championship, and got the NT to the semi-finals against Spain. I don't call that resting.

I'm not saying that in order to win, Spurs need a tired Manu. But there's no conecction between "not playing for the National Team" and a better performance in the following season, specially in the playoffs.

Difference between tired and undeniably injured.