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    Yeah, they'd give a guy the MLE, start him, and turn around and put him in the doghouse

    This is as dumb as your trade Manu for Artest thread.
    If Pop cant guarntee Duncan's minutes then he cant guarantee JR minutes.lol. You know Pop if you stuff up on D or make silly mistakes your in the doghouse. But for garbage JV, Oberto its ok he lets them get away with murder.

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    If Matt played Robert Horry's minutes, and maybe some of Kurt's then I could easily see him averaging 8 to 12 points on a season. there is no way he could have done as bad as Robert. Matt is young, and hard working, we set up end of the quarter plays just for him last season. If you think a big man as strong as Matt, as hard working as Matt and a shooter as good as Matt, who I should mention shoots the three ball better than anyone one the team except Brent, is worthless then you sir have what I call low basketball IQ.
    Yea, he's good at end of quarter plays, but that's it. And that's only because he catches team's who don't respect his shooting ability - the only thing he has going for himself - off guard. Once they do he practically useless.

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    People seem to miss that we don't have much to work with around the Trio of tim, manu and tony.

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    While the Raptors brain trust spent yesterday morning presiding over yet another workout for prospects in the furious lead-up to Thursday night's NBA draft, an established NBA asset loped into the Air Canada Centre to keep in shape.

    Matt Bonner, who has been employed by the San Antonio Spurs since the Raptors traded him a couple of summers ago, isn't simply living in Toronto during the offseason; he's getting married here in August. Bonner was scarce with the details, but he did offer that his bride-to-be's name is Nadia, that she grew up in the Beach, and that they've known each other about two years.

    "I never knew her when I played here," said Bonner, 28. "It's a long story. I'm not going to let the tabloids have the details ..."

    Bonner laughed, and then he talked some hoops, providing a post-mortem on the Spurs' five-game bow-out to the L.A. Lakers in the Western final.

    "I don't want to make excuses, but we caught a tough break with the scheduling," he said, noting that San Antonio, after winning a seven-game Western semifinal against New Orleans, was forced to spend the night on a team plane beset by mechanical troubles.

    "We had half a day on no night's sleep to prepare for the Lakers, who'd been waiting for five days ... and we blew a 20-point lead (in Game 1)."

    And as for Manu Ginobili's bum left ankle: "I think it was worse than he lets on. When I was watching (Boston's) Ray Allen go right by (L.A.'s Sasha) Vujacic and lay it in every time (this after Vujacic hamstrung Ginobili) I was like, `Yeah, it must have really been hurting.'"

    Bonner, who said his wedding's guest list is expected to number about 140, about half as many family and friends as he'd like to invite, can scratch one could-be invitee. Sam Mitc , the Raptors coach, said that while he is more than happy to open Toronto's gym to an old friend, he's not so sure there's an opening in his August schedule.

    "I don't think I'd want to go to Matt Bonner's wedding," said Mitc , chuckling. "It would be Dorkville."

    Indeed, Bonner does little to play down his image as the league's resident geek, a rare proponent of public transit over private jets, Timex over Rolex, old-fashioned rock over new-school rap. Some NBAers come to Toronto to frequent various late-night hotspots. Said Bonner, nodding his head: "I've already hit Tim Hortons and Mr. Sub."

    If it's an act, it's elaborate and sustained. Last summer, Bonner turned down an invitation to the celebrity nuptials of this young century because he had a previous engagement at a basketball camp. No matter that the Paris wedding of Spurs teammate Tony Parker to actress Eva Longoria fetched breathless reportage around the globe; Bonner said he didn't want to let down the hoop-loving kids in his hometown of Concord, N.H. Not that he's averse to cashing in on his big day.

    "We've got people offering a few mill to cover (the wedding) exclusive," he said, and he shrugged. "It pays for the castle. ... No, I'm joking."

    Indeed, the kid they called the Red Rocket proved his lack of cachet a little later yesterday, when he strolled through Union Station. He was spotted by a couple of reporters and exactly nobody else. Perhaps it was because he was wearing a Red Sox cap and a T-shirt and shorts, a backpack slung over both shoulders. Perhaps it's because a wedding-day tux will be a stretch, and not because he's 6-foot-8.

    "If it was me, we'd get married at, I don't know, Sneaky Dee's," said Bonner, speaking of the College Street rock-and-nachos dive. "But you know how it is, the guy doesn't have much say about the wedding day. We don't grow up dreaming about our wedding. It's her day. I understand that. Girls like nice flowers and stuff."

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    ummm...6-8? I thought he was 6-10...

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    Can't wait to see Bonner in another team's uniform.
    agreed

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    Bonner's gonna destroy some foes this year.

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    The fact that Pop benched Bonner while Horry was playing poorly tells me Bonner is a goner-no pun intended. A trade for Delfino mignt work for both teams. Bonner is a fan favorite up there and could get more minutes in a less defensive system. Delfino could play some backup point. We could then use our draft picks to get a permanent # 2 if Pop isn't enthused about JR. If the Spurs already know that Denver will no match for JR, we then use the picks to trade up for the other Brooks kid.

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    if hes put in a good enviorment, he will change as a person.
    besides its not like the spurs players are boring old guys....
    That's usually the case when you get put in the right environment.

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    Bonner for some restricted free agent the Spurs like might work out. Bonner's a fan favorite in Toronto. The only thing is, is Delfino the right candidate to assume the 'Finley role' (ie starting and playing heavy minutes at the 2?). Is he the right guy to lean on to put points on the board?

    You can't exactly bury him on the bench as the swingman rotation as it stands is almost full:

    Ginobili
    Bowen
    Barry
    Udoka

    There's only one spot left. Ideally whoever the Spurs find to fill it can start and put points on the board. I don't see that with Delfino.

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    i dont think ive ever seen matt bonner hit a 3....honestly..and i saw alot of the games this year..lol

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    The the JR rumors coming from? Hoopsworld? Give me a fing break.
    SpursTalk. It all began here.

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    Can't wait to see Bonner in another team's uniform.
    Boo! I like Matt. I will be glad if he is a Spur next year.

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    Robert Horry missed a 3 pointer against the celtics that would have won us the game instead of calling a time out. That was later in the season.

    All I am saying is one play in January doesn't mean he is a bad player. If he makes that shot do people on this board start praising him? No. We always get on our players more for the bad thing than we do for the good things. We complained about Finley all year, yet we forget that he has been a clutch player for us. He has hit so many over time sending and game winning shots for us in the years that we just look at his shooting slumps sometimes and say we need to get him out of here. Finley hit a shot with a hand in his face from the corner to send a game against the Knicks in New York into overtime this season? Does anyone pay attention to that? No. They pay attention to the next game when he goes 2 for 9. Manu puts up 40 points twice this season, yet he gets hurt in the offseason and we talk about trading the player who lead us in scoring and kept us in the upper half of the playoff seeding when he we hurt this season. Stop looking at a player for a bad game or a missed shot or a stupid foul, understand that they are better than the small mishaps that we focus on and they are all small parts of a puzzle that helped this team win a championship.

    Look, the spurs need to overhaul much of the bench and Bonner should be the first to go. He could not even get into regular playing time rotation. Pop is the coach and he sees his players strenghts and weaknesses more then you do and he did not play Bonner. Bonner needs to go.

    Pop has a history of getting rid of players the next season who ride the pine during the playoffs so I expect Bonner to not be with the spurs next year.

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    Pop has a history of getting rid of players the next season who ride the pine during the playoffs so I expect Bonner to not be with the spurs next year.
    That makes sense.

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    Wow, you guys are really down on Mattie B here. I can tell you this much, unless it is very benificial to the Spurs we will not trade Matt. This season I would rather have had Matt play Robert's minutes, but Pop is all about the XP, so he played Robert over Matt.

    Matt Bonner is a hard working guy....I will defend Matt Bonner as a player as long as he plays in the NBA, I think he could be that guy no one pays attention to and quietly scores 10 to 15 points with 5 to 10 boards a night....
    All I am saying is that he needs more of a chance than Pop or you guys are giving him.
    You're absolutely correct. Beno-NVE is the perfect example of stupid Pop screwing with the growth of bench players. Horry-Bonner is the next one.

    You fooled us once Pop...

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    You're absolutely correct. Beno-NVE is the perfect example of stupid Pop screwing with the growth of bench players. Horry-Bonner is the next one.

    You fooled us once Pop...

    Pop didn't screw with Beno's development.

    Beno screwed with Beno.

    How many times must this be put on here before you ers understand this!?!?!?

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    Pop didn't screw with Beno's development.

    Beno screwed with Beno.

    How many times must this be put on here before you ers understand this!?!?!?
    Beno was developed, but Pop had no clue.

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    Beno was developed, but Pop had no clue.
    Shut the up. You wouldn't know Beno Udrih from Chauncey Billups.

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    Shut the up. You wouldn't know Beno Udrih from Chauncey Billups.
    I know Chauncey Billups very well. He played high school ball in Denver when I lived there and tore that up.

    You want to try the Merry Go Round again Frodo?

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    The people I have talked to once told me that Matt and Brent played a game of 3 point shoot out. 100 3 point shots. Brent made 96 out of 100, and Matt made 86. Even if you are wide open that is hard from NBA range.
    BS...Urban Legend!!!

    Would Bones bet one of his pay checks vs. one of mine he could hit 96 out of 100 FREE THROWS??? That's 96%...I don't think he can do it.

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    Shut the up. You wouldn't know Beno Udrih from Chauncey Billups.
    That's right. Resort to profanities when you can't back up your "stuff". That is a sign of "intelligence".

    Bottom line: Beno proved with the Kings what Beno supporters here knew all along. That given time, he'd produce. Now he has shown that the Spurs FO has made (ANOTHER) mistake with a draft pick.

    And the FO wouldn't have to be thinking about picking up a damn backup PG in this yrs draft.
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    Sure Pop was destined to give playoff minutes to Big Shot Rob. That was expected, and he wasn't much better. However, whenever Bonner's number was called, he came up empty.
    Yeah...expect a bench guy who doesn't get GT minutes to come off the pine and produce. That's real smart on Pop's part.

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    That's right. Resort to profanities when you can't back up your "stuff". That is a sign of "intelligence".

    Bottom line: Beno proved with the Kings what Beno supporters here knew all along. That given time, he'd produce. Now he has shown that the Spurs FO has made (ANOTHER) mistake with a draft pick.

    And the FO wouldn't have to be thinking about picking up a damn backup PG in this yrs draft.

    Go research what was said about Paino.

    Contract year, he plays just hard enough to get a contract.


    Wake up.

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    Yeah...expect a bench guy who doesn't get GT minutes to come off the pine and produce. That's real smart on Pop's part.

    So Beno and Bonner should've started?

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