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    Come on. I seriously dont see this happening. I would be quite happy if it does cause we can definitely put scorers on the floor at any time. Manu would come off the bench and do his stuff. Maggette is young. Only 28 so give him a year on our system and he will play D. Pop has proved that he can make anyone play D. Finley and Barry are good examples.

    However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.

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    However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.
    When? The Spurs aren't going to face the lux tax this summer. They have a significant number of contracts already which will expire in 2010.

    A MLE contract isn't some great burden.

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    Celtics offer better shot at a ring

    Fail.

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    However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.
    I don't understand why you would think this. The Spurs have proven over the past few seasons that they are willing to go over the Salary Cap to bring in players. The goal that they have had is to remain under the Luxury Tax Threshold, and they would still be considerably under that with the addition of Maggette at the full MLE.

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    However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.
    why would they have to? they wont be over the tax line, so there would be no need to cut payroll. what have they done in the past that would indicate they would be slashing payroll when not in tax trouble?

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    Come on. I seriously dont see this happening. I would be quite happy if it does cause we can definitely put scorers on the floor at any time. Manu would come off the bench and do his stuff. Maggette is young. Only 28 so give him a year on our system and he will play D. Pop has proved that he can make anyone play D. Finley and Barry are good examples.

    However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.
    Only reason they would do that is if they were in danger of going over the luxury tax. They've been over the cap, and as long as they're under the luxury tax, they will sign players.

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    IF AND thats IF we got Maggette, who else could we get after him. MAN THIS WOULD RULE!!

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    He didn't say he wanted a ring, he just said he was tired of losing. This means any of the contenders who are offering him the MLE are fair game IMHO.

    ORL seems like the best fit for him. Their core is all under 30 and other than BOS there really aren't any dominant teams in the EC anymore. One could argue that his chances of making it to the Finals is greater in the EC than it would be if he stayed in the loaded WC.

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    IF AND thats IF we got Maggette, who else could we get after him. MAN THIS WOULD RULE!!
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    I'm not reading through 28 pages, but has the Derek Anderson tactic been discussed?

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    IF AND thats IF we got Maggette, who else could we get after him. MAN THIS WOULD RULE!!
    Well, they'd have their LLE ($1.9 mil) and the the Beno trade exception. Perhaps one of these younger swingmen (Hayes, Diarrhea, Evans, etc). Maybe they replace Barry with Giricek, which if you were going to replace Barry with a similar player is about as close as you can get to a real replacement for him. Maybe they sign Javtokas with the LLE and move Bonner for Delfino in a S&T.

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    Well, they'd have their LLE ($1.9 mil) and the the Beno trade exception. Perhaps one of these younger swingmen (Hayes, Diarrhea, Evans, etc). Maybe they replace Barry with Giricek, which if you were going to replace Barry with a similar player is about as close as you can get to a real replacement for him. Maybe they sign Javtokas with the LLE and move Bonner for Delfino in a S&T.
    If Barry were to leave, and you replace him with Giricek, thats about as close to replacing him with a different skill set as you can get.


    I think personally the Javtokas bridge is burned, but if it can be crossed, then bring it on.

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    I'm not reading through 28 pages, but has the Derek Anderson tactic been discussed?
    That's basically what Maggette to SA would be, though it would be with the summer of 2010 in mind instead of 2009. Spurs can offer a 3 year MLE contract with a player option after the 2nd year. That would guarantee Maggette close to $18 mil plus give him the opportunity to opt out in a summer in which half of the NBA will have the cap room necessary to sign a max level free agent. The Spurs could then give him a pay raise as they will likely have max level cap room.

    If Maggette signs a MLE contract I don't see him taking a full 5 year one. He'll want a short contract which will allow him to opt out in a more advantageous summer for free agents, which is what 2010 is shaping up to be.

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    the guy has rotted his entire career away on the Clippers. Do you really think he cares about getting a ring? The man wants a payday.
    It's not always about money. I've been in the league a long time and I've made a lot of money. I'm tired of losing. I want to get back to the playoffs and win.
    He didn't say he wanted a ring, he just said he was tired of losing. This means any of the contenders who are offering him the MLE are fair game IMHO.

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    this would be the PERFECT signing..

    let's get the negatives out of the way..

    defense is NOT an issue..our defense has been great every year, even this year, where an average Parker and Ginobili played big minutes, and a TERRIBLE Finley started..we still have the system, and we still have Tim Duncan/Pop..that makes our D..Maggette is even less of a concern, because he's more athletic than any of those other liabilities we have..he has POTENTIAL defensively..

    his shooting % is not a concern..he's gonna be playing with Tim Duncan, Parker and Manu, which is more talent than he's ever dreamed of playing with..

    on to the positives..

    this would be PERFECT..not only would Mags give us another scorer, but he gives us the best kind..a slasher..instead of relying on the 3-point shot as much as we do, we would have somebody that can kill the defense with his drive..he can play with the best post passer in the NBA feeding him on his slashing..

    he CAN shoot..he's more athletic than any swingman we've had in a while(White doesn't count)..

    I'm not getting my hopes up though..this would be huge..

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    care to explain why?

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    However, if the Spurs give him the full MLE, then look for the FO to start trading away players/contracts to get cap relief. Maybe not at the start of the season but later on.
    Not really. The Spurs have done so in the past to get under the luxury tax threshold. They've got some wiggle room this summer in that regard, so it's not a concern.

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    care to explain why?
    Because two of the next three years are even numbered, which means two rings for him if he comes to SA

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    care to explain why?
    Easy.

    The Spurs are better than said Celtics team.

    Just because they didn't make it to the Finals doesn't change that.

    If Maggette signs with the Spurs, it pretty much sews up rings 5 and 6.

    Boston could still stiff against Atlanta or someone else.

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    If some team offers him a good amount more than the MLE he will take it.

    You think it was his grand plan to opt out and sign to a contender for MLE peanuts? His opting out decision completely backfired and blew up in his face and now he has to make the best of it.

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    Easy.

    The Spurs are better than said Celtics team.

    Just because they didn't make it to the Finals doesn't change that.

    If Maggette signs with the Spurs, it pretty much sews up rings 5 and 6.

    Boston could still stiff against Atlanta or someone else.
    fail. Celtics are currently best team in the NBA. face it.

    they beat same Lakers we couldn't.

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    fail. Celtics are currently best team in the NBA. face it.

    they beat same Lakers we couldn't.

    I won't face it because its not true.

    Nice defeatist at ude though.

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    If some team offers him a good amount more than the MLE he will take it.

    You think it was his grand plan to opt out and sign to a contender for MLE peanuts? His opting out decision completely backfired and blew up in his face and now he has to make the best of it.

    laker fan IS scared

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    If some team offers him a good amount more than the MLE he will take it.

    You think it was his grand plan to opt out and sign to a contender for MLE peanuts? His opting out decision completely backfired and blew up in his face and now he has to make the best of it.
    How is going from $7M/yr for a perrenial loser to $6M/yr for a winning team and a chance to win a ring considered "backfiring"? $6M/yr = peanuts?

    Keep in mind, only 3 teams can offer more than the MLE - you seem to keep forgetting that.

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    If some team offers him a good amount more than the MLE he will take it.
    Who will? Those options are limited, at best. He won't have the possibility of a S&T and it's not hard to see the Warriors, Sixers, and Grizzlies decline to make him a large offer.

    You think it was his grand plan to opt out and sign to a contender for MLE peanuts? His opting out decision completely backfired and blew up in his face and now he has to make the best of it.
    Sure, perhaps he screwed up. Now he takes a short term MLE deal with the opportunity to become a free agent in 2010, which will be a much better offseason for free agents with half of the NBA creating max cap room to chase LeBron. The Spurs will have enough cap flexibility then to give him a very nice raise.

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