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    And Clippers don't really need Spurs to take some salary from their hands.
    Right. The only thing left to be seen is if the Warriors use their cap space to go after some lesser name free agents with large contracts.

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    And Clippers don't really need Spurs to take some salary from their hands.
    Yeah, Philly might do that -- but the only guy I can see their getting rid of would be Cal Booth.

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    There we have it. The Clippers can't be outbid significantly, if at all, by the Warriors for Brand's services.

    Again, assuming that Brand would Boozer the Clips and go running off to Golden State.

    I suppose I take Elton at the representation of his word and his commitment to the Clippers, and thus don't think the Golden State offer is anything that is likely to make a difference in terms of where Brand ultimately ends up.

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    Again, assuming that Brand would Boozer the Clips and go running off to Golden State.

    I suppose I take Elton at the representation of his word and his commitment to the Clippers, and thus don't think the Golden State offer is anything that is likely to make a difference in terms of where Brand ultimately ends up.
    Does Davis sign with the Clippers if Brand reached an agreement with GS? Probably not.

    The Warriors' offer to Brand is a face saving attempt. Maybe there is the off chance that he'd want to play there. Still, the front office needs to show that they are doing something. They went after Arenas on Day 1. The concern from the Spurs' perspective is that they then use their cap flexibility to make an offer to other free agents, such as Maggette. For whatever reason, they seem to be somewhat choosy in who they give large contracts to these days.

    But the Spurs' chances for Maggette are much better with a couple teams out there with large amounts of cap room rather than any team in the NBA able to potentially work out a S&T for him.

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    The concern from the Spurs' perspective is that they then use their cap flexibility to make an offer to other free agents, such as Maggette. For whatever reason, they seem to be somewhat choosy in who they give large contracts to these days.
    That's my biggest worry right now. If Brand and Arenas turn them down, they would be crazy not to offer at least a couple more million than the MLE to Maggette, wouldn't they?

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    That's my biggest worry right now. If Brand and Arenas turn them down, they would be crazy not to offer at least a couple more than the MLE to Maggette, wouldn't they?
    I would think that it would have to be considerably more than the MLE, because it is obvious that Golden State is nowhere near returning to the playoffs now.

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    Yeah, Philly might do that -- but the only guy I can see their getting rid of would be Cal Booth.
    Yep, some teams should also face the luxury tax. Spurs could do a similar trade to the one they did with Minny for Beno except that they will be on the other end this time.

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    posey should be their priority, hes a better fit. talented, unselfish, hard nose D, clutch, and team chemistry.

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    Nice work on figuring out the Clippers can match the salary for Brand if they so wish. I think that ends any possible chance of Brand leaving LA.

    The Warriors have been quickly going from player to player throwing around their newfound money. After Brand turns them down, who's next? Hopefully not Maggette. Ben Gordon, Josh Childress or maybe even JR Smith could make sense for them. Making a trade (perhaps for someone like Zach Randolph?) would also make sense.

    We should hear within the next day or so whether Maggette is the next target. If he is, we'll see if Maggette will go for the money or he's actually serious about wanting to win.

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    Maggette is not coming

    Stop dreaming

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    That's my biggest worry right now. If Brand and Arenas turn them down, they would be crazy not to offer at least a couple more million than the MLE to Maggette, wouldn't they?
    They have to sign their own free agents -- after that, a big offer to Maggette would severely limit any hope they might have of replacing a franchise player for at least one season. they have way too many options with that cap space to immediately decide Maggette will be their only real FA signing this summer.

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    posey should be their priority, hes a better fit. talented, unselfish, hard nose D, clutch, and team chemistry.
    I'm a big Posey fan but the Spurs need someone to carry the offensive load. The Big Three can't be expected to carry the offensive load for a full 82 games and the playoffs anymore. Especially in a year when Ginobili is coming off of the Olympics.

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    Maggette is not coming

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    k whatever you say, no name poster

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    Maggette is not coming

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    Maybe.

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    Does Davis sign with the Clippers if Brand reached an agreement with GS? Probably not.
    I think not. I tend to believe that the Brand-Davis combination was pre-ordained and that Baron wouldn't have opted out but for the assurance that he and Elton would partner in LA for the next few years. As such, I don't put a lot of stock in idea that Brand is likely to take marginally more money (if at all) from Golden State.

    The Warriors' offer to Brand is a face saving attempt. Maybe there is the off chance that he'd want to play there. Still, the front office needs to show that they are doing something. They went after Arenas on Day 1.
    The Warriors knew they weren't getting Baron back. They're unlikely to be much more than an interesting sideshow for the 2008-09 season, because I don't think there's any chance that they'll be in the mix for a playoff spot without Davis. Couple his loss with the apparent improvement of the Clippers club and the likely resurgence of the Blazers, and it seems to be only a remote possibility that GST will compete for anything other than a middling lottery pick in the coming season (and probably for a few years to come).

    The concern from the Spurs' perspective is that they then use their cap flexibility to make an offer to other free agents, such as Maggette. For whatever reason, they seem to be somewhat choosy in who they give large contracts to these days.
    Obviously, the more suitors who are on the market with bigger money to flash at Maggette, the dicier the proposition gets in South Texas. Still, at this point, the Spurs chances of obtaining Maggette's services would seem far greater now than they were when the week started. I think that's true irrespective of the fact that another team has some sizeable chunk of cap space to use in courting free agents.

    Besides, if Brand rebuffs the Warriors, wouldn't it seem more likely that their first move would be to try to entice a Josh Smith sort before making a run at a more mid-level guy like Maggette, who will be somewhat redundant in their program? Just thinking aloud.

    But the Spurs' chances for Maggette are much better with a couple teams out there with large amounts of cap room rather than any team in the NBA able to potentially work out a S&T for him.
    Agreed.

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    k whatever you say, no name poster
    lefty's been here longer than you.

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    I'm just trying to reverse the jinx.

    That way, we'll get him

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    lefty's been here longer than you.
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    Stephon Marbury to GS.

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    No problem

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    Stephon Marbury to GS.
    their need is at PG, especially after Davis left, so I could see this happening, although they might not want to take on a big contract. The Warriors seem to only want to pay big money to certain people, and Davis was obviously not one of them, so there's no guarantee they'd want to pay Marbury either. It will likely cost them a few of their young guys to get Marbury, and they need their young guys.

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    I'm a big Posey fan but the Spurs need someone to carry the offensive load. The Big Three can't be expected to carry the offensive load for a full 82 games and the playoffs anymore. Especially in a year when Ginobili is coming off of the Olympics.
    Exactly, we needed a prolific scorer more than anything. But especially a prolific, athletic wing scorer. Maggette does all that + rebounds. He would be perfect.

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    Besides, if Brand rebuffs the Warriors, wouldn't it seem more likely that their first move would be to try to entice a Josh Smith sort before making a run at a more mid-level guy like Maggette, who will be somewhat redundant in their program? Just thinking aloud.
    Very true. I guess the problem would be that either they or the Sixers would lose out on Smith. Of course, the Sixers could always go after one of the Warriors' free agents if they lost Smith to them.

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    Spurs need a wing player they can depend on for 82 games plus the playoffs. I'm all for getting Maggette, but I think Mikael Pietrus would be a better fit and might come cheaper.

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    I'm a big Posey fan but the Spurs need someone to carry the offensive load. The Big Three can't be expected to carry the offensive load for a full 82 games and the playoffs anymore. Especially in a year when Ginobili is coming off of the Olympics.
    oops sorry, i meant priority for the celtics.

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