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  1. 07-04-2008 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tully365
    Those numbers would be great... and I agree on the issue of fouls-- he had big problems last summer and at the beginning of the D League season, but definitely improved as the year went on. Keeping my fingers crossed...
    Me too, there are whispers around the leauge most coaches think he has super star potiental.........I see him as someone who could be a bigger version of A Stoutimire.......in a few yrs
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    Ian is here, as is Gist for the time being. Javtokas may get an offer and I would even take Elson back for the right price, but young scoring help on the wing is far more important right now. I can't believe anyone could have watched the playoffs and decided otherwise.
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  3. 07-04-2008 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
    Ian is here, as is Gist for the time being. Javtokas may get an offer and I would even take Elson back for the right price, but young scoring help on the wing is far more important right now. I can't believe anyone could have watched the playoffs and decided otherwise.
    are you joking... we need big men more than anything... there just arent any good ones that want the MLE we have to offer... we have NO big men... elson sucks, oberto sucks... bonner sucks... horry sucks... thomas is old... the only good big man we have is duncan... we need a big guy before anyone else
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  4. 07-04-2008 #29
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    we need big men more than anything
    Nah, young swingmen who attack the basket are much more of a priority -- and the Spurs FA choices reflect that.
    elson sucks
    Maybe you should know who is on the roster before stating team needs.
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  5. 07-04-2008 #30
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    Oberto is the worst big man defender in the NBA, we need to replace him, but it will be tough because there is no team that will want to take him, so we stuck with him for the next two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kobyz
    Oberto is the worst big man defender in the NBA
    Worse then, say, DJ Mbenga?

    Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anakha
    Worse then, say, DJ Mbenga?

    Try again.
    DJ Mbenga is better, he can block shots
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but here is your answer. He rebounds, he hustles and he is bloody athletic would run the floor well with Parker. I also hear that they want to trade him.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz5IA...eature=related
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  9. 07-04-2008 #34
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    We have enough with Duncan, Ian, and Thomas...Ian is very athletic and quick.
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    I'd like Lee, but Zeke isn't running the show anymore. The Knicks would actually want something in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno
    Spurs also need some athleticism upfront.
    Saying it is one thing , finding players that can do it is another.

    Okafor isn't available and Barron quite sucks.
    Come back with a name that makes some sense.
    trying to be nice.... i agree...

    Barron is the worst Center in the league...
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    Quote Originally Posted by anakha
    Worse then, say, DJ Mbenga?

    Try again.
    Except DJ Mbenga doesnt start.

    At least Oberto knows HOW to play... he just doesnt have ANY skill to speak of other than throwing the ball well to Duncan and getting out of his way.

    I think Kwame Brown is better than Oberto... at least he can dunk the ing ball when he catches it... whats the use of being able to catch a ball and being in the right position when your only front rim an open lay up like Oberto
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    Quote Originally Posted by kobyz
    Oberto is the worst big man defender in the NBA, we need to replace him, but it will be tough because there is no team that will want to take him, so we stuck with him for the next two years.
    I don't know if he's the worst defender, but can look really bad against a superior offensive post player. He's a smart player and I know Pop loves him dearly, but there are a lot of tough matchups in the West that render Oberto virtually useless. Besides that, I'm tired of seeing him tap rebounds out as opposed to having enough skill in which to grab them.

    We do need a wing player first. Another help defeder will be great. As I've said many times, the frontlines of the Western Conference teams will be much bigger than in years past. So another big man with skills that are slightly better than Thomas/Oberto would be helpful to Duncan.
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  14. 07-04-2008 #39
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    I agee. With the dud Oberto starting at center were going to gext exposed next season like we did in the WCF. Even Gasol beat us on the boards. We went to KT when the series was over he should of been our starting C. TD hasn't had help since Robinson retired. It will be hard to get Okafor but if we somehow get him then get Oberto out of San Antonio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChumpDumper
    Ian is here, as is Gist for the time being. Javtokas may get an offer and I would even take Elson back for the right price, but young scoring help on the wing is far more important right now. I can't believe anyone could have watched the playoffs and decided otherwise.
    Word!
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    Unless the Spurs do come up with yet another supporting big, Pop will have to force-feed minutes to Ian, exhibit a bit of patience and live with the results.
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    I am completely fine with that.
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    Me too.
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    Besides that, I'm tired of seeing him tap rebounds out as opposed to having enough skill in which to grab them.
    You think that's tiresome; imagine what I go through every time some poster makes this stupid argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xtremesteven33
    i disagree. were ok for right now with the 4 and 5's. maybe next year we need some fresh blood. not right now
    What did you smoke during the WCF?

    Farmar and Fisher outhustled Oberto for rebounds...ugh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
    Me too.
    In the "How to Rebuild" thread, you proposed signing Brian Skinner to the LLE and Foyle to the minimum-- what made you change your mind?
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    totally in agreement about Oberto, why did we ever resign him, I thought it was a mistake at the time and now we are stuck with him for another year. Scola was a far superior option, the only thing I am hoping for this year, in the absence of a trade, is to see Mahinmi step up and take over this role.
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    Take your pick spurs, you could have had them all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildbill2u
    Dorell Wright with Miami? He's a restricted fa since they made him an offer.
    He is a SF.

    Elson is maybe the best athletic bigman available on FA this year.
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